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Old 23-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #61
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I used to give a damn about stuff like the OP, I even understand where they are coming from, but I realised life's too short to get your nickers in a twist over such things.
True - but if you're going to take the time to put your thoughts down on a text only medium and you want them read and understood, probably a good idea to take some time to make them easy to read.

Someone saying aks doesn't slow me down in a verbal conversation but if I have to sit an unscramble a bunch of sort-of words on a screen, I'll most likely just move on to the next post. Probably a fault of my own but I wouldn't give someone's opinion much credence if I had to whip out the code wheel to decipher it.
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Old 23-08-2012, 12:44 PM   #62
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Love the word youse. I put a comment on Facebook "youse are sheep" and was waiting for someone to reply "no we're not".

The apostrophe is also misused regularly, even by signwriters.

At work we had a new sign put up at the main entrance "..... Austalia's Forth Uranium Mine". At least they got the apostrophe in the right spot.

Don't get me started on the misuse of 'demerit'. Lost count of how many times I have heard people say "Yeah, I lost 3 demerit points when I got caught speeding". Even journalists get this wrong on TV and print media.

Speaking of media misuse of words - 'decimate' literally means to reduce by one tenth. From Latin (Roman) times, a commander would be asked to 'decimate the ranks' meaning to reduce them from ten to nine as a proportion.

It does not mean 'totally destroy beyond recognition'.

Funny how people say they can't spell or punctuate because they left school at year nine. That stuff is taught at primary school and should be pretty advanced by the time you get to year 9.

It's hardly a secret. If you read, then you will know what the words are. Read, read, read. It doesn't matter what you read, as long as it's not the Herald Sun or The Picture.
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Old 23-08-2012, 01:27 PM   #63
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Speaking of media misuse of words - 'decimate' literally means to reduce by one tenth. From Latin (Roman) times, a commander would be asked to 'decimate the ranks' meaning to reduce them from ten to nine as a proportion.
Perhaps the meaning has changed over the years..?

The definition at Dictionary.com pretty much describes my understanding of the word;

dec·i·mate/ˈdesəˌmāt/
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Kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage of.

Drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something): "plant viruses that can decimate yields".
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Old 23-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #64
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Perhaps it has. It's an evolving language. I'll use it in its pure form.
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Old 23-08-2012, 04:28 PM   #65
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Perhaps the meaning has changed over the years..?

The definition at Dictionary.com pretty much describes my understanding of the word;

dec·i·mate/ˈdesəˌmāt/
Verb:

Kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage of.

Drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something): "plant viruses that can decimate yields".
Both of you are correct.

It should strictly mean reduction of one in ten but in modern usage it has come to mean total annihilation.

I tend to prefer it's original use as "Deci" means ten.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)
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I am tempted to say that poor grammar is a way of showing the world how stupid you are. But that would be a bit harsh, so I thought I would let those who choose to display their lack of english skills in permanent ink.


Ummm, no it will not. At least, not any time soon.

I guess that it why it is important.
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Old 23-08-2012, 06:20 PM   #67
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On another forum I visit there is a section where the top post has dyslexia.
Some of you guys on here would flip out if you had to read a post made by him.

Everyone tries to understand him and ignore the constant errors and random capital letters half way through a woRd.
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Old 23-08-2012, 06:25 PM   #68
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I am tempted to say that poor grammar is a way of showing the world how stupid you are. But that would be a bit harsh, so I thought I would let those who choose to display their lack of english skills in permanent ink.
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Ummm, no it will not. At least, not any time soon.

I guess that it why it is important.
cheers dude.. im a stupid **** because my parents were to busy hating on each other.. nurture encourage us at school... pfffft...........

not all bad.. looks like next year will be the first in quite a while ill dip below $120k year....
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cheers dude.. im a stupid **** because my parents were to busy hating on each other.. nurture encourage us at school... pfffft...........

not all bad.. looks like next year will be the first in quite a while ill dip below $120k year....
My post was a bit harsh, but was too late to edit it. I shouldn't drink then post
Apologies to those I offended.

Good on you for earning a reasonable wage after coming from a disadvantaged background. Tips me hat to yous!
I came from an affective disordered mum and an alcoholic father. Sometimes we can do well despite our history.

I think that language does change, but it is primarily there for communication. If the message gets distorted (using the tattoos as reference), then it is failing. Much the same as when you read an entire paragraph that is a single sentence. It can make your eyes hurt trying to make any sense of it. If you don't care, then you are either disprespecting the target audience, or your opinion/communication has no purpose apart from your own. Either way, I don't wish to be subjected to it, and will usually switch off.
The other problem that I see is that if you lack comprehensive language skills you lose so much that the language has to offer. Shakespear had wonderful ways of playing with the language that you will miss it if you only have a rudimentary grasp.
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I stopped caring how people pronounce words after hearing news readers and advertisements on TV and Radio in Perth call the suburb Osborne Park - Osmond Park. It happens nearly everytime.
I also heard an interview, about a year back, that nearly all newspapers are written using the literacy level of a 12 year old............
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A woman recently told me, "I branged it with me."
She was a Neil Diamond fan. He wrote "Play Me" with the lyrics"

"Song she sang to me
Song she brang to me
Words that rang in me
Rhyme that sprang from me"

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Grammar,

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I am tempted to say that poor grammar is a way of showing the world how stupid you are. But that would be a bit harsh, so I thought I would let those who choose to display their lack of english skills in permanent ink.
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Ummm, no it will not. At least, not any time soon.

I guess that it why it is important.
I recently got a tattoo on my chest and went over the spelling about 10 times just to make sure I had it right.
My tattooist nearly ballsed it up with the design, lucky I was watching him draw it up and noted the mistake: "slip inside the eye of you're mind" which was quickly changed to "slip inside the eye of your mind". Close call!
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My pet hate - should of, would of, could of. For those that don't see anything wrong with this, it's should've, would've, could've, short for should have, would have and could have. I see people of all education levels use of instead of have in this context - it's a product of phonetic spelling rather than proper word use (back in my day.......) and a distinct lack of reading, though I did see it in a novel once too!
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A few that seem to pop up on my facebook all the time: His - instead of "he's" and: Defiantly - instead of "definitely".

It also bothers me when people say 'verse' as in, Bombers are versing the Tigers tonight. It astonishes me as to how many people don't realise that 'versing' isn't a word.
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I could add the misuse of that/which and who/whose.
The people that told me is wrong.
The people who told me is right.
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my pet hate is grammar nazis
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Love the word youse. I put a comment on Facebook "youse are sheep" and was waiting for someone to reply "no we're not".
I know someone from New York (or maybe he's from New Jersey) he jokes that "yous" means you all or you guys. We tease (a bit) that it's the "mobsta" in him.

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She was a Neil Diamond fan. He wrote "Play Me" with the lyrics"

"Song she sang to me
Song she brang to me
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Rhyme that sprang from me"

Gooder english you'll never see.
Haha!! Gooder. I've never seen it writed like that before.
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My pet hate - should of, would of, could of. For those that don't see anything wrong with this, it's should've, would've, could've, short for should have, would have and could have. I see people of all education levels use of instead of have in this context - it's a product of phonetic spelling rather than proper word use (back in my day.......) and a distinct lack of reading, though I did see it in a novel once too!
Nah I just write it like this: woulda, coulda, shoulda when I'm texting with friends. Very true though, lots think it's would of, could of, and should of.
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haha, clearly not everyone on here is in agreeance
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I grew up and went to school in England (no Rob, we didn't use slate's and chalk back then!) and remember one English test in primary school for using punctuation and capital letters.

Try it and see how you go................

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looks to me like you have a stutter
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^^^^ "that that is is that that is not is not"

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im a stupid **** because my parents were to busy hating on each other.. nurture encourage us at school... pfffft...........

not all bad.. looks like next year will be the first in quite a while ill dip below $120k year....

Its good to see whatever our up bringing theres many who can be bothered getting off their backside and doing there bit to better themselves
Id safely say theres many who arent over educated that are earning the big coin , or have worked hard to get to their position in life,than those who school their whole life and expect that elusive job placed in their lap
Congrats on not being like most under educated or under privelidged people who sit around parading to the world that they are owed something
Most of those less educated ive come across over many fields arent afraid to get their hands dirty and get in and get the joob done
The thing i hate about those over educated people out there (Not all) is they are fair dinkun lazy,and they lack the ability to look outside the square

The neighbours maybe future son in law is early 30s , been in tafes/college most of his life and cant be bothered to split some wood for his in laws who are mid 60s, but he doesnt mind living it up in their huge well equipped house
Its funny this young muppet comes to me and tells me how easy money is to make,yeah bud,i run my own show and you do what exactly ???
Thats right nothin ...
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That that is, is. That that is not, is not.
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[QUOTE=GTP owner]Grammar - the difference between helping your uncle Jack, off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse!

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That is a classic reason to use punctuation.
Totally changes the meaning of the sentence.
Correct grammer makes such that you get the correct meaning.
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Get yourself a tattoo then.....
You'd think those charged with inscribing indelible ink onto the human body would have at least a rudimentary knowledge of spelling and grammar.. but then you never know if they're just 'following orders'.

I figure hiring a nerdy proof reader to sit in the corner at 2am when an alcohol induced client stumbles in would pay off in the long run.
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What about people now saying 'could care less' instead of 'couldn't care less'?

Our friends in America say the former, but I have always preferred the latter.
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