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These things anrt the be all and end all, and the answer isnt to mount a 9kg one in your car either, this are great if you have a small electrical fire and the main fuse has blown so theres no more power creating the fire, or if the fule line lets go and the fuel has stoped (if the pumps still pumping 2 dozzen wont stop it).
Like I said before if its safe to do so these things are great, and if used properly (as most arnt) these things are quite efficiant on most small household, boating or automotive fires, before the firebrigade arrive. but if the user is going to stand back and spray as though they are pi$$ing on the fence there next to usless, if fuel is still being fed to the fire, there next to usless and if the electriacl system is still shorting there next to usless, so know your's and their limitations and use them as the safety device they are inteded and there fine Once again, if its not safe and your not confident get every one out keep them away and wait for the guys in the bid trucks with the flashing lights on top
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As already stated, fire extinguishers are only ever good for a "one shot attempt" on a very small fire in the early stages of the combustion process.
Only attempt extinguishment when you have bullet proof avenue of escape ! And remember the 3 P's Pull (Pin) Point (at base of fire) Press (handle) I once attended a shed fire where the occupant pulled the pin on the extingiusher and then threw it like a grenade into the fire ![]() He thought thats how they worked ![]() |
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I;ve had the XY go up twice with a carby backfire that had flames coming up from around the shaker and both times I was fotunate to put fire out with small Extinguisher. All my vehicles have one, the Xy now has 2 for good measure.
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Every one of our Trucks are fitted with these and we've never had a problem.
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Perhaps give the possible what iffs a go. You are pinned to your seat in an accident and a fire starts inside the vehicle, in the dash etc, you'd prefer to just think/dream about getting out, or perhaps also have a go at saving yourself and putting out the fire? Why else would we want the extinguisher in reach of where the driver is sitting, rather than perhaps more out of the way and stored behind the driver's seat? |
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All public service vehicles such as Police service etc use metal brackets only for that reason, and CAMS will not accept plastic brackets. |
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I would be surprised if it was in fact illegal - because it's certainly not illegal to carry my shopping from safeway in the cabin of my car. A 3 litre bottle of milk is just as (if not more) dangerous than this fire extinguisher. |
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It would be dumb to have it on the street, as something that is supposed to save you will now potentially kill or injure you. And I am happy to take that challenge mate, arm yourself with a 3 liter milk bottle and I arm myself with a 1.5kg fire extinguisher, I will even let you go first hitting me with the milk bottle, as I can guarantee that you will not be able to hit me after the fire extinguisher hits your head ![]() Why are you arguing about dumb things anyway, just using your brain would indicate that a plastic bracket holding a missile in your car is a dumb idea. |
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When I went for my advanced fire fighting with dangerous goods certificate, one of the things we had to do in order to pass was to put out a car fire, not some "Nacy boy" dash fire but a fully engulfed car without using the entire 80B dry powder extinguisher. I can tell you that it’s harder than it looks and there were some people there who couldn’t do it. I’ve also emptied an entire 80B dry agent trying to cool down an overheated wheel bearing on a loaded petrol tanker and have experienced first hand how hard some fires are to put out, so yes, that’s why I had a chuckle at your comment. These Aldi extinguishers are great to put next to the kitchen stove or if there’s a minor fire that can easily be put out with a minimum of effort. I have a similar extinguisher “not an Aldi one” in the boot of my car but if there’s a serious fire, it’s like ****ing into the wind and I would never rely on one. Many years ago, there was another B-double in front of me that caught fire “wheel bearing” and by the time I’d stopped and grabbed the 80B dry agent off the tanker, the fire was so hot that you couldn’t get anywhere near it. Quote:
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http://fireextinguishersales.com.au/...2kg-p-114.html In 1995, your mob actually removed all of the extinguishers from their vehicles because on an insurance issue. The problem was if one of their trucks caught fire and the driver didn’t near burn to death trying to put the fire out, the insurance claim would be denied. They’ve obviously sorted this if they’re putting them back in. Quote:
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One thing about this forum that never ceases to amaze me is that many people still fail to understand that YOU ONLY GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. If you buy a $12:99 extinguisher from Aldi, expect it to work like a $12:99 extinguisher from Aldi. Imagine turning up at Sandown for a track day in a $120,000 purpose built track car with a $12:99 extinguisher bolted in it. Not only would it be stupid, you’d probably be laughed out of the place. Let’s hope that Aldi don’t start selling roll cages and helmets. Serous enthusiasts “generally” don’t take cheap options with things like this. The last thing you need is a small fire to start only to have your “you beaut super dooper whiz bang” Aldi fire extinguisher to go PFFFFT and die in the **** when you need it most. Then will you be thinking about how much money you saved when you bought it?
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Also... the bottle of milk likely weighs double that of the extinguisher, it's a simply matter of mass when involved in an accident I was getting at - no need to get all violent about it. |
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No it isn’t. The blue tag is there to as a seal to let you know that the unit hasn’t been discharged. The pin should have its own retaining clip on it. If you squeeze the trigger on an extinguisher, even just a little bit, it will quickly lose all of its charge. I am a professional Firefighter and all our extinguishers have tags to hold the pins in as they always fall out without them. Small good quality extinguishers have a retaining clip on the pin but not the one we are talking about from Aldi . The gauge is there to let you know if the extinguisher has been discharged, not the seal.
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Not only are they not safe in an accident. I have seen the plastic bracketed ones melt on a hot day, causing the extinguisher to fall out. (I scrutineer cars) /me grumbles why are people so cheap on safety. It's not like a good one is going to break the bank. FWIW, mine is here... ![]()
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The pin is in place to prevent accidental discharge. The blue plastic seal is there to show that the pin hasn’t been removed and put back in, therefore it is a seal. The primary function of the plastic seal is to show the person who’s about to use it that it “should” work. The secondary function for the seal is to prevent the pin vibrating loose on these cheap arsed things. Quote:
How many extinguishers have you pulled the pin on and nothing’s happened even though it says that it’s charged?
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there was mention of one being fitted to the front underside of the seat. Are there brackets available to buy to be able to do this or is it a custom job for the bracket? Insurance is great but I think most us would prefer to hang onto our pride and joys especially the older they get and the harder they are to replace let alone find parts.
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A extinguisher in a plastic bracket is not approved for CAMS use, and as far as I am concerned for automotive use. Most work/company cars are fitted with extinguishers, always in metal brackets. People will do stupid thing, like place heavy objects on parcel shelves (box speakers/first aid boxes etc), might not be illegal as such, but certainly not smart getting your head taken off by the first aid box sitting on the parcel shelf in a collision... Now getting back to the important point, does anyone make brackets that will allow the extinguisher to be mounted in front of the driver/passenger seat in a B series Falcon so it is attached to the seat rails and moves with the seat, and does not require holes to be drilled in the floor of the car??? |
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not to mention umbrellas and of all things, USA number plates or personalised plates either on the parcel shelf or dash. Imagine one of those babies at full impact.
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You can say it as slow as you want. We are still going to have different opinions.
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you know what I think is the funniest thing about this thread
it was started by some one giving us a heads up about a sale at a store they work at, pretty simple and a kind gesture (I thought) but its a week after the sale and it's become a ****ing competition about every thing from flying milk bottels, the legalities of the item and who can put out more with a dry chem guys relax it's just a discount fire extingisher
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Aldi sell top quality grocery lines under their own brand names at absolute bargain prices and consistently cheaper than Coles/Woolworths or Franklins And they aren't 'foreign' brands just their own, the vast majority of what they sell is made in Australia, more in fact than the other big supermarket chains Go Aldi !!!! |
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And if it is not Australian-made/grown ... it'll be European.
I love the fact that you can get a lot of European confectionery/biscuits/delicatesan-style items direct from there. Saves hunting for a decent Euro Deli somewhere.
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rasing an old thread 13 years almost thats gotta be a record.
Picked a bracket up today from estate garage sale they said is was for grandads bf. but where / how to they fit.
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I have one of these in my ute. ![]() https://www.thebracketeer.com.au/
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Something to keep in mind if you’re going to fight a fire, the discharge time on a 1Kg fire extinguisher is less than 6 seconds. They’re designed for small kitchen fires and such.
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