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01-08-2011, 09:28 PM | #61 | ||
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One thing that a lot of people don't take into account is the amount of hours you have to work, for the money.
I have a few friends who work (or have worked) in the mining industry and they were doing things like 14 x 12 hour days in a row and then 7 days off. That's 168 hours for their 2 weeks on and even if you average it out over the 3 weeks, it's still 56 hours a week. That's still 50% more hours than the average bloke. It's not so much that they're high paying jobs, it's just that the rosters average out to a lot of hours, so you earn more money. But, if you're not a high earner in your current job and can handle the pace, then I guess it's a good option. Personally I'm happy in my 38 hour a week job with a nice office :-) |
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01-08-2011, 09:29 PM | #62 | |||
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01-08-2011, 09:59 PM | #63 | |||
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well me being a tradie have always considered the mines as a fall back position , to earn top dollars if i need it . but truly i do not know the answers to any of those questions , because i've never worked in a mine . and yes the questions are also relevent to every other industry also . so will my common sense enable me to have an idea of if immigrants are working in the same mines, for the same money , by the same employer , with the same training? DID I EVER EXPLAIN THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "ASSUME" |
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01-08-2011, 10:16 PM | #64 | |||||
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where i work, we have 5 different crews on slightly different rosters. my roster is 3x12hour night shifts, fri night, sat night & sun night, then i have the rest of the week off. Quote:
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in answer to those questions posed above. i can only talk for the underground coal industry, but be prepared to have safety drilled into you every shift. i've been a miner since '84 and have seen a lot of changes over the years. i spent a few years out in the water industry too and it was the same there. it can drive you mad sometimes as it seems overkill, but it has made a significant difference. lost time injury frequency rates in NSW have come down from over 100 about 10 years ago to about 14. it is an inherently hazardous occupation and sometimes things can go wrong, but the incidence of that happening is a lot lower now. afaik, it's not an industry that hires migrant labor?? certainly not in the mines i've been at although there's a lot of kiwis bru's in the pits now!! lol... black lung is not a big issue anymore with more effective ventilation and PPE available. happy to answer any questions people throw my way in here. may as well make use of my experience...
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01-08-2011, 10:25 PM | #65 | |||
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Thanks mate thats great to know , the safety standards have improved a lot . thanks for answering my questions . if the jobs are there I SAY GO FOR IT . if i was young and starting out i dont think i'd be anywhere else . |
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02-08-2011, 12:21 AM | #66 | |||
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most FIFO camps have gyms tennis courts indoor cricket pool etc its all supplied to make people feel like its you home away from home
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02-08-2011, 10:26 AM | #67 | ||
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I have been trying to get into the mines for the last 4 months and have had no luck, at first i tried in Mackay area and now im trying in the Pilbra but with no luck.
I have 10 years experience as a Heavy Vehicle/Plant Mechanic, but with no actual mining experience it seems they dont even look at you. Im not sure if it just me or is it really hard to get a start from the outside or if you dont know anybody?
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02-08-2011, 10:45 AM | #68 | ||
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it is still hard to get in mate, but you also will here stories of mine jobs just falling into peoples laps (right place and time) but keep at it it will happen (took me 6 months to get my foot in) just keep going to labour hire companies and ring them up everyweek asking if they have found a job for you yet
for the pilbara have you tried putting your resume in with skilled enginering, workpack, benchmark, DT workforce are just a few of labour hire companies also try NRW, Henry walker elton, leightons, these companies do lots of work for BHB and Rio
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02-08-2011, 11:16 AM | #69 | ||
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hey guys currently live in brisbane just wondering which labour hire companies do contracting for mines over here thanks in advance
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Cheers for that info i will try the other companys tonight.
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02-08-2011, 02:29 PM | #72 | |||
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Anyone heard of HWE Mining? They are in the middle of a huge recruitment drive.
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02-08-2011, 02:57 PM | #73 | |||
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02-08-2011, 03:39 PM | #74 | |||
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Peter Beattie made a bold claim some years ago after a miner was killed on a machine he should not have been operating that "the ability to use any implement on a mine should be privileged".... or words to that effect. That means a worker should be skilled, ticketed, directed and fit to undertake every aspect of his work, from walking through the front gate to driving a ship loader. |
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02-08-2011, 03:48 PM | #75 | |||
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post no#9 Donating Member3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wait.Awhile. Posts: 1,471 Default Re: Who works in the mines and what doing Over here in WA all the big names are screaming for people. NRW, MACCA, Hamptons, to name a few. I'm in fixed plant construction atm, over 10 yrs exp, middle management role, and I can tell ya, most of the plant operators here couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dogs backside. now for where i work , there is far more stringent approach to safety paper work also , its called sign here , and get to work . Last edited by gtfpv; 02-08-2011 at 04:02 PM. |
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02-08-2011, 06:09 PM | #76 | ||
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I have heard there are new mines opening soon-ish near Mudgee and Gunnadah.
Perhaps people looking for a start should look into them. Driving trains for the coal mines in the hunter valley is a great job. With 1 barracks job a week, drivers can get $120,000. Average shift you work for 9 hours (but it can vary from 3 hours to 12 hours) I seam to be only working 3-4 days most weeks. 5 days on an unlucky week. Most of the time you are not actually at the mine site so you don't have to worry about breathing in coal dust all day. It is generally a laid back job because the trains don't really run to a time table (around here at least) On night work you sometimes get a bit of shut eye. Normally when you turn up to a mine the train loader is not ready for you, so you get some downtime. I hear working in remote places like the Pilbra, you can earn more then $150,000 for driving the trains. |
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02-08-2011, 06:29 PM | #77 | ||
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Booooooooring !!
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02-08-2011, 06:37 PM | #78 | |||
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02-08-2011, 07:14 PM | #79 | ||
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I dunno if this link is gonna work, but have a read here.
Some of it is propaganda but overall good reading/intro advice. http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...a&e=dc30dd08c6 On a more serious point, if there are any young refigeration mechanics that want to relocate to W.A and grab an electrical apprenticeship on the way, PM me for more info.
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02-08-2011, 08:20 PM | #80 | ||
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FIFO can be good and bad. Ive only been working in mine for 4 months but ive seen the good and bad sides of it from co-workers.
Good is you can live where you want but work where the money is. Bad is its hard to rush home on short notice for a family emergency etc. Also lose half to a full day in travel time plus finding flights that match your roster if you have to organize your own. At the mine im at theres guys from all over flying in to work, Cairns to Tasmania and all inbetween.
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03-08-2011, 12:47 AM | #81 | ||
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I have worked for rio for the last 5 years in various systems roles both fifo and residential and am now based in Perth
I got my break by moving to one of the mining towns and had a job within six months. I was lucky in that my missus was a teacher in the town so we already had housing. What has already been said has here is true. Try the hiring companies (skilled and skm are two i can think of.) They are mostly looking for people who are willing to do fifo or willing to move up to site but rio already have an ops center in Perth and BHP are in the process of building one, so jobs are opening up in Perth. Main thing is that they want people who already have some skills, and are a little bit pro-active. I also happen to know that the big two are desperate for controllers at the moment (both plant and train) so keep an eye on the rio and bhp websites. |
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04-08-2011, 07:53 AM | #82 | ||
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Keep a tab on PNG jobs in a year or two, BIG resources boom for them ahead, and that means 'required experience'. Good for PNG, but also expats who can assist.
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04-08-2011, 09:10 AM | #84 | ||
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04-08-2011, 04:59 PM | #85 | ||
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Some clients require candidates to already possess the following: (as a minimum)
At least 2 years operating experience in Coal Mining Coal Board Medical Surface Generic Induction Black Coal Competencies SGS BMA Induction. If you are looking to get into operating in QLD I recommend viewing the following websites http://www.miningcareers.com/ http://mines.industry.qld.gov.au/ http://www.theresourcechannel.com.au/ Some courses you will need to complete first ! |
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04-08-2011, 06:41 PM | #86 | ||
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I'm going to start looking towards the end of my apprenticeship.
I should be able to go for my HR next year, might start off with that. |
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04-08-2011, 07:12 PM | #87 | |||
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I work for BHP (as a Recruiter, in Perth) and we have a ******** of work on at the moment. We are growing all the time, looking at opening a new mine a year for the next 6 years or something... Most of the operator type jobs will be with Contractors though. What is quoted above cannot be more true! The amount of guys i know that start out with the best intentions... Get out there for a couple years and pay a house off, is all rubbish. You soon get used to the money, have loads of material things and as a result of FIFO, miss watching your children grow up, Marriage or relationships break down or your missus cheats on you coz your never around... Lots of pitfalls to selling yourself for the money you can potentially earn. Loads of old codgers on site who have fallen into the trap and will still be up there in 10 years time, with nothing to show for it other than toys! If, on the other hand you treat it right, make some coin, set yourself up and get out, props to you!! |
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04-08-2011, 07:55 PM | #88 | ||
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Hey guys im after a little help
Im currently a 4th year auto electrician, im due to finnish my apprenticeship late feb next year. Im really keen to get a job in the mines but im finding it hard as most companys require mining experience. I really really want some mine work as i want to buy a house. In my current job i have alot of exerience in heavy machinary and passanger cars. I live in tumut where the timber industry is massive, meaning day in day out im fixing a large variety of log trucks, loaders, harvesters, fork lifts, booms, sizzor lifts ect ect Being the biggest auto elec in the area also means i have alot of experience diagnosing and repairing difficult faults in cars, motor bikes, planes and even gophers lol Over the last year i had the incredible chance to wire up (from scratch) a number of jet boats and rare hotrods. Im passionate about my job and i love it, i work 11 to 16 hours a day 5 days a week and own a large tool collection. I dont mind working ling hard hours and will usually stay back late at work untill i finnish the job im doing. Im serious about getting into the mining industry and would love any assistace anybody could offer, even if its a few weeks of unpaid work experience |
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04-08-2011, 09:51 PM | #90 | ||
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See alot of guys get sucked in by the money. Then cant go back to a lower paying town job as they are too acustomed to the money and days off a mine job brings.
Just put in for inexperienced underground position at work, got good references from supervisors so hoping that helps out. Big boost in central qld mining coming. Joy are apparantly supplying a longwall a year for next 6 or so years which means new mines and expansions. Companies seem to be pushing for fifo but some locals are trying to stop it.
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