Fights at the Aussie Open

[Green X]

Mate I feel that same when something like this occurs anywhere in this country.

The difference between the Australians, Kiwis, Poms and so on is mostly nobody takes it personally.

I know Indians, Italians, Poms, Kiwis Ect and we give each other crap occasionally and sometimes get a bit fired up at each other over it, then 5 minutes later we can be having a beer and laughing about it.

How many wars have Australia taken part In, Do we hold grudgers against all those people.

My old mans dad was in a German POW camp and my Dad’s mother survived the German Consternation camps> my old man doesn’t hold a grudge against Germany or the German people.

My late uncle was a POW on the Burma railway and survived, some of the stuff that the Jap’s did to him was horrendous but he didn’t hold a grudge against the Japanese people for it.

What ever happened, it didn’t happen to these people or affect there life, so why can’t they just Move On, like other people would have.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Green X

How many wars have Australia taken part in,

Over the past 100 years it must have been about 12 majors and a zillion minors. Someone here must know?

[J_Tank]

Originally Posted by robjh80

A wise Englishman once said........

"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come."




This is now Australia's future.............."Your Future and that of your children."

Enoch was right.

you mean Enoch was right wing. would have been a good stable mate for William Joyce. But this is NOT a political forum and I do NOT want too see that symbol here again. Save it for your marches. :

[dandaman]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

Our country was born with the shaking of hands...not through a war.

Quoting Uranium Death

I'm sure the settlers and the aboriginals shook hands when they landed.

Just look at tasmania for example, aboriginals were just about made extinct. If that's not genocide then what is?

All i've got to say is people should look in there own backyard before they pass comments about other cultures and societies to which they know little about

[J_Tank]

Originally Posted by GTP006

SPOTTO! I spot those who haven't read this thread (Oh, and cause details are apparently easily missed, John_xr6T & AU2PWR this means you)

mate what I wrote was a joke. Ie given the current climate of punitive p plate laws as a knee jerk reaction by governments to curry favour with an ageing population I thought I would blame racial tensions at a sporting event on P plate drivers. They get blamed for everything else... why not this?

[Scott]

^^ mmkay, just a little late then.

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by dandaman

Quoting Uranium Death

I'm sure the settlers and the aboriginals shook hands when they landed.

Just look at tasmania for example, aboriginals were just about made extinct. If that's not genocide then what is?

All i've got to say is people should look in there own backyard before they pass comments about other cultures and societies to which they know little about

Australia, the recognised country was born through the shaking of hands.

The Aboriginal deaths is not how we formed Australia.
Sure...it is part of Australian history, I don't discount that.
But I don't wake up in the morning feeling like I'm going to kill some indigenous Australians because I feel like it.

[Scott]

I wonder what they think when they wake up?

[uranium_death]

They probably think, "I need to do wee, then go shopping."

They live their life.

[dandaman]

I see what mean regarding the country/modern country was formally acknowledged by the shaking of hands, but who's hands, of the "white man" english, while others have been living here for millions of years.

Same sorta goes for america and indiginious indians i guess.

Anyway, here's a funny pic to peruse

http://upload5.postimage.org/254927/photo_hosting.html

[uranium_death]

Whether we like it or not, if Australia had not been inhabited by the white man, the Aborigines would not be much further advanced.

The Australian Ford Falcon wouldn't exist, I would be living in the U.S most likely (grandparents were given a choice b/t U.S., Argentina or Australia) and Vegemite would be a myth.

As I said, some cultures have trouble moving on.

lolz saw that cartoon. I liked it.

[dandaman]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

Whether we like it or not, if Australia had not been inhabited by the white man, the Aborigines would not be much further advanced.

The Australian Ford Falcon wouldn't exist, I would be living in the U.S most likely (grandparents were given a choice b/t U.S., Argentina or Australia) and Vegemite would be a myth.

As I said, some cultures have trouble moving on.

lolz saw that cartoon. I liked it.

True that., first comment is very true

Does anyone know how to link the image so it loads immediately. I'm crap with html, i think it's <img src or something

[Scott]

Simplistic to say the least.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

I really hate it when people are born in this country, educated in this country, insured by the country and protected by the law of this country, but their first loyalty is to their parent's homeland.

And what's wrong with that? One's blood does not stem from the land they're born on.

I'd not blame say, a Sweedish person, for example, born in Australia, with both Sweedish parents, a Sweedish name and surname, for being loyal to Sweeden first, for example. Not only is it their right, many people believe in nationality and identity stemming from blood rather then the place they were born and/or reside in.

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by Steffo

And what's wrong with that? One's blood does not stem from the land they're born on.

I'd not blame say, a Sweedish person, for example, born in Australia, with both Sweedish parents, a Sweedish name and surname, for being loyal to Sweeden first, for example. Not only is it their right, many people believe in nationality and identity stemming from blood rather then the place they were born and/or reside in.

So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong.

My parents, grandparents etc. were born in the Ukraine, have Ukraine names, and all this time I've been in love with this **** country called Australia, when all this time I should be caring about a country who doesn't care for my existence while this **** country called Australia provides me with the best life I could hope for.

Well...I've learned a lesson.

[MethodX]

Whatever works for you.

Some people are just proud of their heritage.
Cant forget where you come from.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

So THAT'S what I've been doing wrong.

My parents, grandparents etc. were born in the Ukraine, have Ukraine names, and all this time I've been in love with this **** country called Australia, when all this time I should be caring about a country who doesn't care for my existence while this **** country called Australia provides me with the best life I could hope for.

Well...I've learned a lesson.

You're taking things a little bit far, and acting like a child. Loving one's heritage does not mean disliking the country they live in. Would it be so impossible for you to love Australia yet be a Ukranian? Is that a difficult concept for you to grasp? It seems so.

And if you think Australia offers you the best possible life you could hope for, you're a bit out of touch with the world.

[uranium_death]

I feel no loyalty towards the Ukraine because Australia, the greatest country on Earth has provided me with safety, food, shelter and education.

Best life? Where else could I get International Football, Tennis, Basketball, Australian Rules Footy?

Where is a better place to live?

My heart will always be with Australia. I cannot deny my heritage, but I must also move on and realise that Australia is where my future lies. Therefore, I pledge my loyalty to Australia.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

I feel no loyalty towards the Ukraine because Australia, the greatest country on Earth has provided me with safety, food, shelter and education.

Best life? Where else could I get International Football, Tennis, Basketball, Australian Rules Footy?

Where is a better place to live?

My heart will always be with Australia. I cannot deny my heritage, but I must also move on and realise that Australia is where my future lies. Therefore, I pledge my loyalty to Australia.

Australia is a country where its people have many material posessions and are well of in such a manner, but there is no real life. You work like a robot your whole life, 40+ hours a week, overtime, blah blah blah, and then retire and die. Where's the enjoyment of life? The happyness, the full life? Consumerism and materialism make up this country. It will be forever in Europe's shadow in terms of a truely fulfilling life, especially in countries like Italy, Spain, France (in France, for example they work 4 days a week, 3 days off) etc etc. Its an OK place, but world beating? Far from it.

Oh and all those things, you can watch on TV anywhere in Europe if you really want to.

[JTFG]

there just ****heads who have an excuse to cause ****, they probably don't even care about their heritage or maybe just pretend to so they look fully sick.

[Scott]

Steffo, if Europe is so much better, what the hell are you still doing here?

[Van D]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Steffo, if Europe is so much better, what the hell are you still doing here?

+1

Kinda on the Aboriginal topic.. What kinda irks me as well, is when these guys bring their crap over here and don't respect Australias own history.

I'm half Dutch, and very proud of that heritage, but it doesn't mean i've turned a blind eye on Australia's past at all. I'm quite interested in everything from Aboriginal culture to modern day politics.

If they don't want to take an interest in this country, and just want to bring their 'war' (even though community leaders and some people in their OWN countries are against it) here, then they can bugger off, whether they were born here or not.

[RSgerry]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Steffo, if Europe is so much better, what the hell are you still doing here?

What he said...

I take it you havent been to Europe lately then Steffo? Cold, wet, dirty, cimre like we cant even begin to contemplate and race problems (that some choose to take here) that simply dont exist here. Europe has a great deal to offer, as a holiday destination. I am Irish, lived in London and have travelled, and there is nowhere else on Earth that provides the same quality of life as Australia. It isnt perfect, but there is nowhere better.

[DENKO]

meh over this topic!

[MITCHAY]

Australia FTW!

[MethodX]

Anything Aus can do Eu can do better :evil3:

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by GTP006

Steffo, if Europe is so much better, what the hell are you still doing here?

When I am able, I'll be living in Europe, don't worry about that.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by RSgerry

What he said...

I take it you havent been to Europe lately then Steffo? Cold, wet, dirty, cimre like we cant even begin to contemplate and race problems (that some choose to take here) that simply dont exist here. Europe has a great deal to offer, as a holiday destination. I am Irish, lived in London and have travelled, and there is nowhere else on Earth that provides the same quality of life as Australia. It isnt perfect, but there is nowhere better.

Where as its Hot, humid and dirty here. Cold and wet please. Also depends on the region of Europe, it has very diverse climate's.

Australia has all of Europe's race problems, people just refuse to acknowledge them. In fact, Australia has argueably WORSE problems then Europe in that department.

Last time I was in Europe was in 2000. My grandparents were there in 2005. And I'll be going there again later this year I hope.

[poppasmurf]

Australia is the best country in the world, and as my ancestors before me i will always put my life on the line to keep it that way. This s*** at the tennis, all involved should be disgusted. Thats just not Aussie. Where the bloody hell are ya. In Australia. Not over in some war ridden country starvin my a*** off.

[Scott]

lol Steffo, I didn't realise you were born in 1988 (18yo), you'll get your chance to live life a bit more and figure out which way is up. I'm done with this one.