TRD Aurion comparable to XR6T ? - Page 3

The Monty · 19-08-2014, 10:27 AM

Ive had a G6et, been in plenty of turbos, but I seriously love driving the Aurion around as a daily. Let alone the s/c version. Would I have one, HELL YEAH!

ZH For Me · 19-08-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

Don't start with the 'pronounced phonetically'.

I've seen GTs getting around with number plates that are 'FGT 13' etc. I know it stands for Ford or FPV GT, but what does it sound like when you pronounce the 'FGT' bit phonetically?

On that note, I always feared that I would see the plates "FGGT" at some point. Sounds great off the tongue, but in writing... Yeeeeeeeah, not so much.

Anyway, getting back to the point at hand, while I admit I've not driven the TRD version, the standard Aurion didn't leave me feeling all that thrilled in the chassis department. That could be because, in my mind (please don't hurt me

), the only true shiners of FWD are the hot hatches, and by comparison the Aurion feels like a cruiser liner, and admittedly I didn't drive it all that long - About 3 hours in total - perhaps I was too hasty, I don't know. I wouldn't say no to giving the TRD a crack, but at the end of the day, I keep coming back to one word; Oversteer

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Trek · 19-08-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan D Segal

Don't start with the 'pronounced phonetically'.

I've seen GTs getting around with number plates that are 'FGT 13' etc. I know it stands for Ford or FPV GT, but what does it sound like when you pronounce the 'FGT' bit phonetically?

EFFGEETEE

Spudz27 · 19-08-2014, 10:56 AM

I used to own a camry I had the v6 sportivo. Car was ugly as sin, but in the 4yrs I owned it NOTHING needed replacing or fixing except the battery and usual service, it would rev like crazy engine note at full rev was great, but it cornered like crap, I had never owned a car where I actually had to take note of the sign that suggested doing 90 around a bend in 110 zone, my fords all just took it in their stride, the camry I had to slow down as it felt like we.were going to just understeer off. I would give a TRD aurion and go, interesting that there is 2 gumtree links to ones for sale, the W.A dealer wants 20k for one with 124,000km and normal features, the QLD dealer (I think) wants same money for the up spec model with 30,000 less km. If I was to buy one I prob fly over to Qld and drive it home hahahahaha.

Vesper Martini · 19-08-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Never realised until now that they have two boot spoilers. A lip style, and a wing style at the same time.

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I never noticed either, its not as obvious as the AU XR8's

pearlhead · 19-08-2014, 03:18 PM

Sorry guys, wrong thread

FPV8U · 19-08-2014, 03:49 PM

Always liked the look of these on the outside, the interior maybe of good quality but aesthetically it doesn't do much for me.

Early engine failures would have scared a few off no doubt, and unlike the XR6T that may mean the engine is closing in on the limit of its capability std, a far cry from the XR6T.

Overall a pretty decent rig for a Camry, but if your paying that kind of money i'd spend a touch ore and get a well optioned FG/FGII XR6T.

esppwr · 19-08-2014, 09:34 PM

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

b0son · 19-08-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter.

My R8 is quick in a straight line. Its cornering doesn't come close to my RS250 or GTI before it. If I wanted the absolute quickest car point to point, it wouldn't be a Falcadore.

esppwr · 19-08-2014, 10:13 PM

Didn't say the quickest, more like the most entertaining. Skate your R8 around the block v sprint to 60 in your Gti to take a hair pin, I know which I prefer

esppwr · 19-08-2014, 10:34 PM

It would be a 911 turbo if I wanted the quickest car point to point that you could use everyday. But it's too clinical, any performance rwd car is fun, it doesn't have to be Aussie made although they are the best value. aka Amg c63 would be the pick of the bunch if it came in a manual and tc switched off completely.

zilo · 20-08-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

I haven't found many that can keep up with my FWD with LSD

zilo · 20-08-2014, 12:21 AM

double post...LOL

**DJM83** · 20-08-2014, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

So what your saying people with a FWD car can't drive. Many lols.
Also because they have a front wheel drive they wanna race to 60. More lols. Yeah I so bought my ST because it's a drag car.
Don't apply your idea to everyone

Maka · 20-08-2014, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

A lsd equipped performance fwd will shock & suprise you. Go test drive a ST on anything but a straight road & be amazed!

cheers, Maka

Vesper Martini · 20-08-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of RWD but don't be scared of something different, the best drivers in the world are not the ones you see at Bathurst.. or at your local drifting comp.

Whilst the Aurion may struggle around a track, there are plenty of well setup FWD cars. Racing in Europe

Watch some clips of the British Touring car champs FWD cars.
let alone rally cars.

The Monty · 20-08-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Anyone with "some" driving skills could not consider a supercharged Fwd white good v an xr6t, xr8 or SS for that matter. The driving pleasure that comes with an LSD equipped rwd torque monster far outweighs any fwd/awd car. These fwd/awd cars are for people that haven't got the skills to control a real car and want to race to 60.

For me driving code 2, if I had a choice between a falcodore and the Aurion, the Aurion would get the nod everytime. I have just had 4 falcons, compete in drag racing, skid pan days, track days, sprints, happy laps and completed advanced driver training in the commodore, falcon and the Aurion.

You have an opinion, but in the real world, your wrong. My stock focus would outhandle any of my falcons around the mountains any day of the week.

NEEDspeed · 20-08-2014, 11:09 AM

Maybe the (B)Aurion would out-handle a lot of your boats, but I doubt a properly sorted suspension setup in any rwd sedan would still hose it. I'd hazard a guess that TRD MAY have just played with its setup to the minor extent that is needed to outperform our barges in stock form.

Someone meet me at Collie motorplex we'll see what happens with your Toyota Refrigerator...

Poetic Justice · 20-08-2014, 12:38 PM

Does the TRD get to have the same 'properly sorted suspension' or are you being unfair?

adumb · 20-08-2014, 02:13 PM

Old man had a standard V6 Aurion, was a great car, reliable plenty of power (200kw.) I thought it wasn't too bad around the bends either. I actually like the look of the TRD Aurion.

b0son · 20-08-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by esppwr

Didn't say the quickest, more like the most entertaining.

Lift-off oversteer or sliding the rear under brakes is more entertaining than power oversteer IMO, if only because it takes more skill to do it right.

SensationFG8 · 20-08-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Maka

A lsd equipped performance fwd will shock & suprise you. Go test drive a ST on anything but a straight road & be amazed!

cheers, Maka

I dont think amazing would be the word, I very much doubt the ST would impress me through the twisties and it doesn't have enough grunt on the straights.

Falcman0o7 · 20-08-2014, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zilo

You've never driven one so why bother posting?

Because it's a forum. And oppinions are expressed.
Like it or lump it.

zilo · 21-08-2014, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcman0o7

Because it's a forum. And oppinions are expressed.
Like it or lump it.

Or laugh at it?

Franco Cozzo · 21-08-2014, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by zilo

Or laugh at it?

If only people knew what this guy drives

Maka · 21-08-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

I dont think amazing would be the word, I very much doubt the ST would impress me through the twisties and it doesn't have enough grunt on the straights.

Well you must own a v8 supercar for a daily then!

Its is amazing how understeer & torque steer are held in check by modern fwd hot hatch tech compared to earlier models of the same genre, turn in (lift off over steer) & power down compared to rwd is in a different class & on a mountain pass faster. I would love to thrash a ST on the Stelvio Pass!

cheers, Maka

SensationFG8 · 21-08-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maka

Well you must own a v8 supercar for a daily then!

No my cars are in my sig not hiding anything, I know the ST cant match my car on straights or in corners, it therefore wouldn't amaze me. Each to their own and it takes nothing away from the joy your ST gives to you.

The only reason I was really posting in this thread was to sing the praises of the engine in the TRD which is 90% the same as the engine in my car. It really is a nice motor.

**DJM83** · 21-08-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

I dont think amazing would be the word, I very much doubt the ST would impress me through the twisties and it doesn't have enough grunt on the straights.

It might not. But not everyone wants what you like. Same as I don't want a big boofy sedan that rolls around a cover. But I can accept everyone has different tastes in cars otherwise the world would be a boring place

SensationFG8 · 21-08-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

It might not. But not everyone wants what you like. Same as I don't want a big boofy sedan that rolls around a cover.

Never suggested people have to like what I like, just that the cornering prowess of the ST wouldn't impress me.

What big boofy sedan that rolls around the corner is it that you're talking about?

b0son · 21-08-2014, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

I know the ST cant match my car on straights or in corners, it therefore wouldn't amaze me.

The ST would likely have a higher mid-corner speed...

The VF ute is 20sec/lap slower than an RS250 around the Ring, despite the last minute of that lap being pretty much a straight line, and giving away an awful lot of power. I think you'd be surprised how quick FWDs can be.