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“What about” posts don’t work unless the recipient is an idiot.
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Sure, but to be fair, nobody outside of fordforums believes LPG will ever be the fuel of choice for the majority of the population :P
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And that's the kicker, isn't it. The outrage is because people truly believe EVs will take over. They never felt that way about LPG nor E85 nor any other fuel source till date.
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During the 1974 oil crisis, there was a concerted push to improve Australia's fuel security. Both LPG and biofuels were just starting to appear as viable alternatives. Viable in terms of technology and viable in terms of cost. LPG/CNC was also considered a better fuel to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and to improve urban air quality (over the alternatives of diesel and petrol). Hence, the decision was made not to exercise these fuels as heavily, so as to encourage the move across to LPG and biofuels. (Sounds familiar, doesn't it...) In 2002, the Commonwealth Parliament's Fuel Taxation Inquiry Committee conducted a study called the "Fuel Tax Inquiry Report". All 292 pages of a most gripping and thrilling read still available for reading on the Treasury web site. The report concluded that the reasons for the lack of exercise on LPG was, in 2002, "unclear". Hence the increase in exercise on LPG. Over time, LPG has fallen by the wayside as an alternate fuel sources. And this is where it gets interesting for EV owners who claim they already pay enough tax ... the abovementioned report runs on for a number of pages to discuss the "externalities" associated with transport, like road maintenance and infrastructure, congestion costs, road crashes, et al. The "Fuel Tax Inquiry Report" then has a nice little section about revenue raising. It notes, Quote:
The report is really interesting reading insomuch as the parliament has already done all of the leg work to justify charging EV some form of fee. Quote:
If we are really going to become an EV society, there is absolutely no way that the government will let such a large part of its revenue base slip away. |
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I'm more than Happy to pay a federal EV usage tax. I enjoyed the benefits of being an early adopter. For now, the govt wants us (like you mentioned in the 70's) to move to EVs for fuel security reasons. I've always maintained the Green angle has NOTHING to do with the govt desire to go to EVs. Labor aren't going to introduce a Federal EV tax just yet. Timing is all wrong for them. It'll come, no doubt. Should kill off fuel excise and just do the per kms tax.
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Those were still ICEs you could refuel at a typical servo. They still worked the way we expected a car to. EVs require a little bit of a shift in one's approach, and we know how much people love change.
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