Police bash hoon drivers

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by CAT600

I drive fast, I get caught, I NEVER get beaten

There is more to this than do-gooders would have us believe, these guys will have shot their mouths off and then received a lesson in manners and humility.

As I say, I treat the long arm of the law with the respect it deserved, and i've NEVER been on the receiving end of any violence.

Daniel

Same and at speeds in which I should have lost my license...simply just gets downgraded. Been in or near dust ups when Police arrive and never been treated badly...ever.

I am 100% with Bluepower too, there is not enough respect for the Police and the s h i t they put up with.

Now perhaps it was a little heavy handed, but I still back the police on this one. Would like to know how such a video gets out...its not by accident so it seems odd. Surely the officers know the vid is on...

How about the car hey...not a coincidence.

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by mcnews

"Quote - Some people need sense beaten into them, I for one think it is what is missing these days.
My old man told me stories of how drunken idiots/abusive people were put in the divy and taken out a dirt road, givin a floggin and made to walk back. They usually learnt their lesson after that."

--

Yeah let's go back to them days. Repeal the right to vote for women and abo's while you're at it too! Let the church brothers keep kiddy fiddling under the carpet etc. it all goes with going back to those great old times...

That's stating everything negative from the past.
I got smacked as a kid and i came out fine. These days all you can do is say no and more and more teenagers are wrong do-ers and it will only get worse.

[roberts]

Originally Posted by Bluepower

Injuries were minimal, lessons learned.

Your obviously not a cop, and hiding behind a new name isnt new.....

These kids could have taken out anyone with their stupid behaiviour.

2 wrongs dont make a right? I dont see anything wrong on Vicpol's part.

2 smart alec's, 2 lessons learnt, 2 cops that should have recieved promotions.
I was omygod so shocked to see a VN commodore in the background.....

so the passenger, I'm mean the 2nd driver or co driver was he, did what?

[Fireblade]

Originally Posted by mcnews

Putting up with crap like bashing defenceless young men who have surrendered and are sitting on the ground with their hands behind their backs for a good beating with batons while throwing in kicks and punches to boot... I didn't think that was crap they put up with, I thought it was crap they did for fun....

And **** like this isn't going to earn them anymore respect, don't get me wrong I'm not a cop hater and myself have ended up on the wrong side of the law and come out of it better than I should have and also became a better person for it, I respect and accept their jobs are tough but what they did was predatory, those kicks were brutal let alone the baton hits while they are on the ground, I don't excuse or condone the hoons behaviour and I don't believe it was just a burnout in front of the station, the cops either took major offence to it as a taunt against them or these guys are just trouble makers that are known but that doesn't excuse the cops behaviour either, there are other avenues they can take than resort to brutality, again they are no better than a common thug.

Ask yourself this, if your child/teenager/young adult did a burnout in front of your house and then mouthed off to you afterwards would you retaliate and kick the **** out of them? or how would you feel if that was your child that happened to?

[CAT600]

For the exaggeration about "J-walking" earlier... lets go the other way... will the general public still side with the do-gooders if Western Society were to start experiancing Coloumbian-style cop-killers as the norm?

C'mon guys, where there's smoke there's fire and anyone that tells you they were assaulted by the law for ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON is lucky they were born with a knob on the end of their proverbial.

Originally Posted by Linkachu

.........I got smacked as a kid and i came out fine. These days all you can do is say no and more and more teenagers are wrong do-ers and it will only get worse.

And we're at the crux of the matter........

Should Police, Teachers, Nurses et al be correcting that which poor parenting failed to do years beforehand?

Lets commend the services that have the courage to protect and serve the public... THE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE IT.

Blast from the past!............ what about the heart warming story of the would-be thief that attempted to steal toys from some fit, young volunteers collecting for childrens charity:

Originally Posted by fat4D

Clumsy Thief

From the 'West Australian' newspaper.


PERTH - An SAS trooper collecting toys for children was stabbed when he helped
stop a suspected shoplifter in east Perth.

The 'Toys-R-Us' Store Manager told 'The West Australian' that a man was seen on
surveillance cameras last Friday putting a laptop under his jacket at the store.

When confronted, the man became irate, knocked down an employee, pulled a knife
and ran toward the door.

Outside were four SAS Troopers collecting toys for the "Toys For Tots" program.

Smith said the Troopers stopped the man, but he stabbed one of them, in the back.
The cut did not appear to be severe.

The suspect was transported by ambulance to the Royal Perth Hospital with two
broken arms, a broken leg, possible broken ribs, multiple contusions and assorted
lacerations including a broken nose and jaw...

Injuries he apparently sustained when he tripped whilst trying to run after the stabbing.

One of the Troopers said, "He was a clumsy bastard."

What a lovely christmas story from last year!.............

Daniel

[Jim Goose]

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bruta...214-1ov0s.html

Seems like the ex girlfriend thinks he deserves it...

And some locals are not entirely sympathetic to victims who have misbehaved. Mr Bray's ex-partner Amy Bray said in a police statement that she had told him he had acted "like a teenager" and a "********". Mr Bray, 32, pleaded guilty this year to driving and drink-driving offences over the incident.

And im guessing he is more then a repeat offender....

[mr smith]

Originally Posted by teak81

Part of me thinks these idiots were deliberatly taunting the police so they got what was coming to them. Exactly who in their right mind would be doing burnouts in front of a police station?

I agree, they provoked the law then copped a kickin. Big deal. I copped a few when I was younger and deserved every one.
I would like to see the whole tape, I would bet there is a lot more to it.

[EDManual]

Good reason not to pull over if you were hooning! hehe! Would that gel in a court case!!

[purnong]

Originally Posted by F6 FOON

Haven't seen the video until now and didn't want to remark until I had, I understand some opinions of this on both sides, I was expecting to see a copper giving him a touch up not a full on beating that was given (Reminds me of the Rodney King incident), that copper makes a mockery of the law he is supposed to be upholding and is no better than your garden variety thug, I don't care what these guys have done unless it was a retaliation to violence towards them then it may be warranted but if that didn't happen there is no good excuse/reason for this and they should be brought to justice with a much firmer sentence than your common criminal, the police are not above the law and cannot and must not act this way, they are meant to be role models and upstanding citizens, these 3 (not just the 2 that acted but also the one standing by and watching) are dirt and deserve no respect.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything thing you said mate, What the video shows is far above and beyond whatever the crime deserved
The police are out there to enforce the law, Not to dish out punishment
Any copper that thinks different is in the wrong job

[Falcman0o7]

Stupid commodore drivers doing what they do best! BEING TOOLS!
Getting a belting was not the answer but i did chuckle! Bet they didn't expect that! LMFAO!

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by F6 FOON

....... or how would you feel if that was your child that happened to?

I would be asking some serious questions like ..... "What did you do to provoke that reaction ..... " And "I told you if you continued down this path you are going to **** someone off and you will be the one getting your bum kicked, so this time, I hope you learnt your damn lesson ..... "

[Fireblade]

I'd rather see my son go through the right channels in the system for his punishment if he comitted this sort of crime, and I would back the system all the way with whatever they deemed he deserved as this is why we have a justice system, but to have a lowlife copper be judge, jury and executioner on the side of a road and kick the **** out of him I would not and will not tolerate.

Basically what some are saying here is, if your being a ****head its ok for me to kick the crap out of you, because if its ok for the law it has to be ok for me.

[Rodp]

Perhaps there's a generation divide between those who think the cops dealing out a beatdown, night in the cells and being sent on their way in the morning is acceptable and those that believe cops should politely escort repeat offenders to say hello again to the beak.

That's just the way it was done back when I was young. No wasting the court's time to deal a slap on the wrist.. done, dusted and among a few of my mates that copped it, lesson learnt.

Originally Posted by F6 FOON

Ask yourself this, if your child/teenager/young adult did a burnout in front of your house and then mouthed off to you afterwards would you retaliate and kick the **** out of them? or how would you feel if that was your child that happened to?

Having them stand in the norti corner hasn't proven to be that effective by my observation. If one of my kids had been handed a beating by a cop, my first question would be; 'righteo, what dumb act did you do to deserve that...?'

[mik]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

I would be asking some serious questions like ..... "What did you do to provoke that reaction ..... " And "I told you if you continued down this path you are going to **** someone off and you will be the one getting your bum kicked, so this time, I hope you learnt your damn lesson ..... "

doing burnouts in front of the cop shop......asking for a beating, not the brightest sparks off the grinding wheel , by then by same token, pretty dumb of the police touching them up in front of the camera, on the other hand there`s no doubt some young blokes just wont learn, no matter how many fines or threats of jail, a few bruises and some soiled underpants may have done these two rocket scientists the world of good.

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by F6 FOON

I'd rather see my son go through the right channels in the system for his punishment if he comitted this sort of crime, and I would back the system all the way with whatever they deemed he deserved as this is why we have a justice system, but to have a lowlife copper be judge, jury and executioner on the side of a road and kick the **** out of him I would not and will not tolerate.

Basically what some are saying here is, if your being a ****head its ok for me to kick the crap out of you, because if its ok for the law it has to be ok for me.

If nothing else gets through to them after many attempts going through the system ..... big yes. Again .... what went on before this and for how many years, it is not stated.

[mr smith]

Originally Posted by F6 FOON

Basically what some are saying here is, if your being a ****head its ok for me to kick the crap out of you, because if its ok for the law it has to be ok for me.

Yup, I would support anyone giving a clown doing a burnout in front of their house a kickin.
Mr Burnout has basically said "f*&k you, I have no respect for you, your family or neighbours".
The reson we have so many fools is that physical punishment has disappeared and for the lower iq of society, thats all they can comprehend. The softly-softly social experiment has failed.

[|Nate]

I think I saw a snippet of the news with one of the individuals being interviewed.

Acting like the type of person that would infuriate the police, "Oh dem Police are a bunch of dawgs" and the news mentioned he was involved in an accident 2 weeks prior to him being involved in the burnouts, seriously? :|

[Streets]

Originally Posted by mik

doing burnouts in front of the cop shop......asking for a beating, not the brightest sparks off the grinding wheel , by then by same token, pretty dumb of the police touching them up in front of the camera, on the other hand there`s no doubt some young blokes just wont learn, no matter how many fines or threats of jail, a few bruises and some soiled underpants may have done these two rocket scientists the world of good.

Maybe once upon a time it would've been good for them. These days though, *********' inbuilt aversion to learning their lessons is much stronger than it was in the past. Instead of going home with their tails between their legs, it's more likely to just arc them up even more.

[redvan]

You all seem to be missing the point, Police are here to uphold the law, not make there own. Fair enough that these kids did wrong but it doesnt condone them getting flogged with a baton and kicked the **** out of. the HOON laws are in place for a reason. Did the officer that watched and held the torch get any conviction? I think not. I bet if any of us were witness to something like that we would have been charged with being an accesory to a crime. These so called law enforcers should have had an instant dismissal and not this **** poor penalty

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by redvan

You all seem to be missing the point, Police are here to uphold the law, not make there own. Fair enough that these kids did wrong but it doesnt condone them getting flogged with a baton and kicked the **** out of. the HOON laws are in place for a reason. Did the officer that watched and held the torch get any conviction? I think not. I bet if any of us were witness to something like that we would have been charged with being an accesory to a crime. These so called law enforcers should have had an instant dismissal and not this **** poor penalty

So .... it was just because they were hooning ...... you know the full story then?

Not missing the point at all but its too easy to jump on the band wagon against the police. Wonder if these blokes have dealt out similar justice on the general public and got away with it ..... just asking. I wouldn't know but then the full story isn't available, but you know something everyone else doesn't?

[Jim Goose]

The news has reported that it wasnt the first time the driver had been in court just recently

[purnong]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

So .... it was just because they were hooning ...... you know the full story then?

Not missing the point at all but its too easy to jump on the band wagon against the police. Wonder if these blokes have dealt out similar justice on the general public and got away with it

I guess none of us will ever know the history of these two blokes but just on what is seen in the video the response by the police is excessive
The seemingly almost romantic version of the old copper giving you a clip under the ear and a kick in the backside and sending you home for being an idiot does not apply here
What those officers did was beyond what was necessary given the apparent circumstances

[IDT]

Originally Posted by mr smith

Yup, I would support anyone giving a clown doing a burnout in front of their house a kickin.
Mr Burnout has basically said "f*&k you, I have no respect for you, your family or neighbours".
The reson we have so many fools is that physical punishment has disappeared and for the lower iq of society, thats all they can comprehend. The softly-softly social experiment has failed.

Well said, I couldn't agree more with your comments. I grew up in Mt Druitt in western sydney during the 70's and believe it or not we used to leave our back door open 24/7. Now because the do gooders have screwed the courts leaving police unable to enforce the law everyone else is helpless. In most places you can't leave a window open on a hot at night anymore let alone enjoy a quiet night in most suburbs. Its this very reason that poor WA copper who after a flying headbutt is left disabled whilst his attacker gets off scott free.

[Fireblade]

We get a thread on here on assault, and most are condoning it but we get one on here about someone speeding and you want them hung haha laughable really and does show how much of a knuckle dragging society we really are.

[mik]

Originally Posted by Streets

Maybe once upon a time it would've been good for them. These days though, *********' inbuilt aversion to learning their lessons is much stronger than it was in the past. Instead of going home with their tails between their legs, it's more likely to just arc them up even more.

maybe, , but i think you`ll find in the right company the fear of god can be put into anyone.

[my_gxl]

Originally Posted by Bluepower

Its nearly wrong for anyone to even comment on this unless they have put their backside on the line and worn a badge for a living.

Doing a burnout in front of a Police station? Are these punks for real?

What did they expect from the police? milk and cookies?

Just a few years ago a hoon driver killed a bunch of people walking home from a party in Mildura, has anyone in this thread stopped to think of where hoon behaviour could end up? What about the poor coppers who delivered the death messages? Ever heard of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome??

Good on the police for delivering a lesson to some punks who obviously needed it. I reckon they were only love taps anyway.

my 2c

I have PTSD from army service, and have had police bash my head against a brick wall 4 times when I was having a PTSD moment.

Its police service- not police force.

Cops can go to hell

[Mickxr8]

Turn the camera off next time dudes , nah just kidding.
when we were growing up and messed up we got a good clip under the ear for it , nice little "chat" and a night in the cell bloody worked lol,
But was always done standing up.
Bashing someone when there already down ? Hmm.
Sounds like these guys (commo numpty driver and clingon ) needed a "tuneup" but fair go ?, They`ll get theres eventually , hopefully a big tree or Karma gets em 1st before they kill innocents.

[Fireblade]

Originally Posted by mik

maybe, , but i think you`ll find in the right company the fear of god can be put into anyone.

Yep the judge did that for me, straight and narrow since, nearly 20 years now, didn't need a bashing from the police to put me in my place, my Dad tried that on me many times much like his father did to him, grew up hating him not fearing him and probably made me worse.

[Falc'man]

Is disrespecting those in authority and upholding the law any worse than disrespecting the average civilian?

[Redrum]

The two police who are being dealt with will face justice under the law. They will be dealt with more harshly than the average citizen as they should. They have to in extremely difficult circumstances do an extremely difficult job and despite being human must maintain higher standards of behaviour than the rest of the community. But just remember they are human and can stuff up. Not only will they be punished they will lose their jobs. I have no sympathy for the
victims in this incident. I do not condone the action of the two police officers. But I think I understand it.