Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2023, 12:17 PM   #61
BENT_8
BLUE OVAL INC.
 
BENT_8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 8,676
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Im 6'3" and drive a Mazda2 to work and the intimidation tactics I get are unreal.
When I get to work I climb into a 12-14m coach which trumps any jacked up 4x but I dont flex although it has crossed me mind once or twice...or trice
BENT_8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 10-11-2023, 01:59 PM   #62
Dr Smith
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,459
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by GT1533 View Post
I agree that there are a lot more aggressive drivers on the road these days. One of the interesting observations I have made is that it also depends on the type of car you are driving. If I am driving the wife’s CUV, I get a lot more instances of morons in Thailand specials tailgating me or pulling out in front of me, but if I am in my slightly beaten up Falcon Ute, same roads, same driving style, — it doesn’t happen.
Anyone from Melbourne might remember the exit "games" leaving Waverley Park were ridiculous and it was only in my XW Falcon 500 wagon that we always got out faster than any other car I or my friends drove...we quickly learnt my friends 635CSi was the worst option.

Last edited by Dr Smith; 10-11-2023 at 02:06 PM.
Dr Smith is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-11-2023, 05:40 PM   #63
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,446
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by BENT_8 View Post
Im 6'3" and drive a Mazda2 to work and the intimidation tactics I get are unreal.
When I get to work I climb into a 12-14m coach which trumps any jacked up 4x but I dont flex although it has crossed me mind once or twice...or trice
Thailand Special warriors are all heroes until there's a bend in the road
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
7 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 01:09 AM   #64
jstanovic
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Perth
Posts: 830
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

You just need to watch a few dashcams video compilations to see how crappy drivers attitudes are.

Someone accidentally cuts of the dashcam driver, the dashcam driver then yells abuse, tailgates, revs the motor or speeds past. You tell me who you would rather on the road.

Watching those videos or accidents and near misses, 4 out of 5 times the incident could have been minimised or completely avoided if the dashcam drivers drove a bit more defensively and calmly.
For example, when the right lane has a line of stationary traffic, then the dashcam driver drives at the speed limit in the left lane past all the stationary cars then collides with a turning vehicle who obviously didn't see them. Yes, the car shouldn't have turned in front of them but surely it could have been avoided or damage severely reduced if the dashcam driver was driving a bit slower and more defensively.
jstanovic is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 05:25 AM   #65
asagaai
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
asagaai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,790
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

What I have noticed is Friday afternoon- Tradies in Utes are very aggressive - probably eager to get home to have a post week drink.

I now try to avoid commute cycling to work on a Friday, because of the Friday arvo ute brigade.

And afternoon school runs- some drivers are very aggressive. A lady passed me when I was cycling giving me 150 width gap at 60 kph. She got caught in traffic, and as I passed her I mentioned the 1 metre gap rule.

Her response- called me a "fu%ing cockroach".

About people responding differently in behaviour to you based on what car you are in- I have noticed if I am in my Falcon FGX XR8 in right lane on freeway caught in traffic, utes and 4wd's will come up behind and give a gap.

If I am in my Ford Fiesta ST they come right up on my bumper, almost attempting to bulldoze me out the way. If they see a small car, they have a belief it should not be in the right lane-ever, even if that car can do 235 kph....
__________________
Ford Rides:

Ford Fiesta ST Mk 8 -daily- closest thing to a go kart on road for under 50K

FG X XR8 smoke manual - Miami hand built masterpiece by David Winter, BMC Filter, JLT Oil separators, Street Fighter Intercooler Stage 2, crushed ball, running 15% E85 and 85% 98- weekender
asagaai is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
7 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 07:12 AM   #66
PooDog
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
PooDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: nz
Posts: 1,852
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Same deal over the ditch......just worse since Covid

For those that think it's better being in a large vehicle , try driving a 22m B -train you que up in the slow lane so you don't have to swap lanes then you get the lane swappers cutting in front of you continuously because you're slow to move off .....constant near collisions

One thing I've noticed since Covid is a lot more crashed vehicles littering the highways a lot near vertical nose first down a culvert( we have large culvert and drains over here for the rain) , in paddocks upside down .....every couple of days another lot turns up ,then you watch them get slowly stripped (legally they have to be left for two weeks before being removed)

Cars burnt out has increased , I had to wait half an hour for the 30ft flames to die down from one set alight .....on the side of the road , was a bit dodgy driving past in an empty fuel tanker full of gas

The place is getting more and more like a third world country
__________________
Fgx xr8 winter white manual, gone but not forgotten
22 mitsubishi outlander XLS PHEV

Au11 fairmont Ghia ported gt40p heads ,comp springs and locks
Xe 264 cam,custom intake,pacemaker tri y headers
524nm torque

19 Triton GSXR manual
PooDog is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 07:29 AM   #67
HIPO
Al
 
HIPO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: South Aus.
Posts: 1,839
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Thailand Special warriors are all heroes until there's a bend in the road
Yep, they're the new VN Commy drivers... except probs handle - brake worse!
HIPO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 10:11 AM   #68
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,446
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstanovic View Post
You just need to watch a few dashcams video compilations to see how crappy drivers attitudes are.

Someone accidentally cuts of the dashcam driver, the dashcam driver then yells abuse, tailgates, revs the motor or speeds past. You tell me who you would rather on the road.

Watching those videos or accidents and near misses, 4 out of 5 times the incident could have been minimised or completely avoided if the dashcam drivers drove a bit more defensively and calmly.
For example, when the right lane has a line of stationary traffic, then the dashcam driver drives at the speed limit in the left lane past all the stationary cars then collides with a turning vehicle who obviously didn't see them. Yes, the car shouldn't have turned in front of them but surely it could have been avoided or damage severely reduced if the dashcam driver was driving a bit slower and more defensively.
I love those compilations, we sit down as a family to watch them every month and I get so worked up over it I start yelling at the TV

Half the dramas are avoidable by the person submitting the footage like you say, everyone is so determined that they're in the right that they drive confidently into accidents, yeah you technically were in the right but now you get to play the insurance game when you could have easily avoided it.
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 11:10 AM   #69
smoo
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
smoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,269
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
I love those compilations, we sit down as a family to watch them every month and I get so worked up over it I start yelling at the TV

Half the dramas are avoidable by the person submitting the footage like you say, everyone is so determined that they're in the right that they drive confidently into accidents, yeah you technically were in the right but now you get to play the insurance game when you could have easily avoided it.
Have to laugh at some dash cam owners. Am sure many see themselves as some self appointed cop or authority figure.
To avoid the frustrations Bent_8 mentions. When I’m in the car on a dual carriage way and have no time constraints, I’ll throw the cruise on 10 under the limit so I don’t have to deal with other motorists inconsistent speeds, they usually pass and gradually gain distance so I don’t have to be on and off the gas or cruise to compensate like what often happens at 110 - 120k.
But have noted many dash cam owners are guilty of bad and dangerous driving habits, most common tail gaiting/following too close and failing to keep left when not passing. Submitted footage DCOA shows many of them not driving in a defensive manner to avoid crashes even when they’re not at fault.
smoo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 12:21 PM   #70
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,446
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

I love the ones who yell out people's number plates, like what do you think is going to happen, Victoria Police is watching?

Maybe I shouldn't be giving them ideas, if you were Highway Patrol would be easy to get your numbers up send out fines in the mail to everyone on DCOA compilations

I noticed that in the truck with my mate, one of the freeways bans trucks from being in the right lane, but if you have cruise control set to 97 you end up catching everyone on the freeway every 2 seconds and you can't legally get in the right lane to get around them. Then they get upset if you get on the air horn or flash lights for them to move left out of the middle lane.

Better off setting it to 85 and go slower that way you aren't constantly on and off cruise control as you don't catch them in front of you constantly.
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 02:12 PM   #71
FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0
Donating Member
Donating Member3
 
FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Heading thru Hell (Corner)
Posts: 8,308
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Willingly providing technical info and documents, despite glitches. 
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
I love the ones who yell out people's number plates, like what do you think is going to happen, Victoria Police is watching?

Maybe I shouldn't be giving them ideas, if you were Highway Patrol would be easy to get your numbers up send out fines in the mail to everyone on DCOA compilations

I noticed that in the truck with my mate, one of the freeways bans trucks from being in the right lane, but if you have cruise control set to 97 you end up catching everyone on the freeway every 2 seconds and you can't legally get in the right lane to get around them. Then they get upset if you get on the air horn or flash lights for them to move left out of the middle lane.

Better off setting it to 85 and go slower that way you aren't constantly on and off cruise control as you don't catch them in front of you constantly.



This from the guy who openly admits to speeding most of time

Remember a while ago in one of the threads I said to you that, as you get older, you'll learn to just go with the flow a bit more? You said you'd never, as it's not your personality type. Maybe this is the first sign your personality type is changing?
__________________
Labels are for jars, not for people.

Life is a journey, not a destination.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Daily: 2013 FGII EcoLPi in Winter White
Play: 2015 FG X XR8 in Emperor Show' N Shine thread

Gone, but not forgotten: 2015 SZII petrol Titanium Territory in Emperor
FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 02:37 PM   #72
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,446
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0 View Post
[/B]

This from the guy who openly admits to speeding most of time

Remember a while ago in one of the threads I said to you that, as you get older, you'll learn to just go with the flow a bit more? You said you'd never, as it's not your personality type. Maybe this is the first sign your personality type is changing?
I do remember indeed, but wrong context, because I'm talking about this:



Ideally you wouldn't need to be doing 85 on a freeway with a 100 limit, its a mitigation strategy rather than me changing my ways

If anything the faster you get point to point in the truck the better because if you save 10 minutes on each job then you can take on an extra job or two per day.

We did an experiment where we did a 463km trip at 80-90km/h and it only saved 3.5L/100km but lost us 40 minutes on the trip moving at a slower pace than if we were doing 100km/h, or the 102-103 that it'll do before the limiter kicks in.

So to save $40 in fuel it cost $770 in turning down another job because in that 40 minutes you can easily do another local shift.

Which there is a lot of sentiment about 'who cares if it takes 30 minutes longer to get somewhere', it matters hugely when you're driving to make money and you get paid per job rather than per hour or you need to be at certain points before certain times to keep in with fatigue management crapola.

Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 11-11-2023 at 02:47 PM.
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
6 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 05:54 PM   #73
GT1533
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 88
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoo View Post
Have to laugh at some dash cam owners. Am sure many see themselves as some self appointed cop or authority figure.
Dash Karens Australia




.
GT1533 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 08:04 PM   #74
Rallye Sport
RS The Faster Fords
 
Rallye Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Westralia
Posts: 1,694
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Mandatory truck licenses anyone? Even if it changed half the attitudes out there the roads would be a better place.
__________________
Escort RS2000 Restored factory a/c and alloys.
TD Cortina Unrestored 35 000km 6cyl manual.
Mk1 GT Cortina Project.
FG XR50 Daily.
Rallye Sport is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 09:24 PM   #75
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by PooDog View Post
(legally they have to be left for two weeks before being removed)
Is that to give people time to strip them?
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 09:30 PM   #76
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallye Sport View Post
Mandatory truck licenses anyone? Even if it changed half the attitudes out there the roads would be a better place.
Does an Indian truck licence count?
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 09:32 PM   #77
Rallye Sport
RS The Faster Fords
 
Rallye Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Westralia
Posts: 1,694
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Does an Indian truck licence count?
Nope
__________________
Escort RS2000 Restored factory a/c and alloys.
TD Cortina Unrestored 35 000km 6cyl manual.
Mk1 GT Cortina Project.
FG XR50 Daily.
Rallye Sport is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 11-11-2023, 10:31 PM   #78
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 49,446
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Does an Indian truck licence count?
Officially, yes



https://www.education.gov.au/interna...ustralia-india
Franco Cozzo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2023, 05:57 AM   #79
PooDog
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
PooDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: nz
Posts: 1,852
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprintey View Post
Is that to give people time to strip them?
Sure is ,and to shoot at them ,smash all the windows, and torch them
__________________
Fgx xr8 winter white manual, gone but not forgotten
22 mitsubishi outlander XLS PHEV

Au11 fairmont Ghia ported gt40p heads ,comp springs and locks
Xe 264 cam,custom intake,pacemaker tri y headers
524nm torque

19 Triton GSXR manual
PooDog is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 12-11-2023, 08:20 AM   #80
roKWiz
Cabover nut
 
roKWiz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Onsite Eastcoast
Posts: 11,275
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0 View Post
[/B]

This from the guy who openly admits to speeding most of time

Remember a while ago in one of the threads I said to you that, as you get older, you'll learn to just go with the flow a bit more? You said you'd never, as it's not your personality type. Maybe this is the first sign your personality type is changing?
I have a feeling Franco's driving habit won't change, even behind the wheel of a mighty ACCO.
He already looking for an Allison auto to launch him off the line quicker.
__________________
heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration
In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752

roKWiz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-11-2023, 11:18 AM   #81
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
Imagine the adventure tourism opportunity: fly to Mumbai and get a package of truck experience in some of the world's most changing and thrilling traffic, and an Australian recognised truck qualification when you come home from your holiday. You'll never hit a cow again!
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Old 12-11-2023, 11:21 AM   #82
Sprintey
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Sprintey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Catland
Posts: 3,750
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Uncle Franco's Best Exotic Marigold Truck Licence Holidays.
__________________
I6 + AWD
Sprintey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 06-01-2024, 05:06 PM   #83
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,918
Default Re: 'Post Pandemic' - On the roads

Experienced some 2024 post pandemic courtesy this morning. Took the 3v up the black spur. Had not one, not two, but 3 cars pull into the slow turnout to let me through on separate occasions. That NEVER happens. Wasn't speeding nor tailgating neither.

Also saw some bloke's audi being towed out of a ditch just before the spur. Missus was looking none too impressed. Take it easy out there.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
2 users like this post:
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 08:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL