Israel Folou to AFL!!

[csv8]

2010 AFL Attendance
Team Games Total Average
Collingwood Magpies 10 604,147 60,415
Essendon Bombers 10 527,084 52,708
Carlton Blues 10 519,914 51,991
Geelong Cats 10 458,485 45,848
Hawthorn Hawks 10 456,065 45,606
Richmond Tigers 10 386,654 38,665
St Kilda Saints 10 356,268 35,627
Western Bulldogs 10 351,858 35,186
Fremantle Dockers 10 338,456 33,846
Melbourne Demons 10 332,533 33,253
West Coast Eagles 10 322,464 32,246
Brisbane Lions 10 317,105 31,710
Adelaide Crows 10 303,828 30,383
Sydney Swans 10 279,928 27,993
North Melbourne Kangaroos 10 274,459 27,446
Port Adelaide Power 10 255,844 25,584
ALL 80 3,042,546 38,032

Attendances the NRL can only dream of.

NRL Attendances. AFL DOUBLE NRL..


Home & Away Finals Overall
Year Gm Total Ave. Gm Total Ave. Gm Total Ave.
2010 88 1515938 17227 88 1515938 17227
2009 192 3084481 16065 9 351448 39050 201 3435929 17094
2008 192 2993469 15591 9 287119 31902 201 3280588 16321
2007 192 3024040 15750 9 307984 34220 201 3332024 16577

[Charliewool]

Another interesting stat....

AFL or NRL ? Guess which.


36 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Can you guess which organization this is? AFL? NRL?

Give up yet? . . .

Neither, it's the 535 members of the AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT IN CANBERRA


The same group of Idiots that crank out hundreds of new laws each year,
designed to keep the rest of us in line.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by csv8

2010 AFL Attendance
Team Games Total Average
Collingwood Magpies 10 604,147 60,415
Essendon Bombers 10 527,084 52,708
Carlton Blues 10 519,914 51,991
Geelong Cats 10 458,485 45,848
Hawthorn Hawks 10 456,065 45,606
Richmond Tigers 10 386,654 38,665
St Kilda Saints 10 356,268 35,627
Western Bulldogs 10 351,858 35,186
Fremantle Dockers 10 338,456 33,846
Melbourne Demons 10 332,533 33,253
West Coast Eagles 10 322,464 32,246
Brisbane Lions 10 317,105 31,710
Adelaide Crows 10 303,828 30,383
Sydney Swans 10 279,928 27,993
North Melbourne Kangaroos 10 274,459 27,446
Port Adelaide Power 10 255,844 25,584
ALL 80 3,042,546 38,032

Attendances the NRL can only dream of.

NRL Attendances. AFL DOUBLE NRL..


Home & Away Finals Overall
Year Gm Total Ave. Gm Total Ave. Gm Total Ave.
2010 88 1515938 17227 88 1515938 17227
2009 192 3084481 16065 9 351448 39050 201 3435929 17094
2008 192 2993469 15591 9 287119 31902 201 3280588 16321
2007 192 3024040 15750 9 307984 34220 201 3332024 16577

this is something that will never be fixed as long as the NRL schedule games during primetime in winter to suit channel 9. i know i cant take my son to many games as we dont get home until after midnight. id like the see the percentage of daytime sellouts as compared to nightime matches

[Johndec]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

St George are on top this year John. A chance you may be.

We'll see, it's been a long time between drinks (1979). I was at that one as well and want to see one more before I die! I was a teenager then and if we win this year, I'll be a grandfather! My eldest daughter is due to give birth a week before the Grand Final.

Originally Posted by uranium_death

A chance you may be.

With Yoda on our side, how can we lose!!!

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by Johndec

With Yoda on our side, how can we lose!!!

Follow Melboune Storm I do! Horrendous were the penalties.

Content should I be if St George win. Seeing droughts broken I like.

But now, we must eat. For the Jedi it is time to eat as well!

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Another interesting stat....

AFL or NRL ? Guess which.


36 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Can you guess which organization this is? AFL? NRL?

Give up yet? . . .

Neither, it's the 535 members of the AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT IN CANBERRA


The same group of Idiots that crank out hundreds of new laws each year,
designed to keep the rest of us in line.

I think those numbers drastically dropped off after Mark Latham left politics.

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

AFL, the only sport where you get a point for missing

Its actually compensation for the other team getting the ball- what about league scrums what a joke they are

[scoupedy]

Originally Posted by XW 393

Good luck to him, might want to start some fitness training though.

Yeah it will be funny watching one of the best nrl players wheesing around the park but they will put him in a pocket most likely

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by scoupedy

Its actually compensation for the other team getting the ball- what about league scrums what a joke they are

and here i was thinking the other team got the ball because you missed, imagine a league teame getting a point because they got held up over the line and then said "awwww but the other team gets the ball..... i want compensation"

and Israel isnt one of leagues best, just look at his production since he left Melbourne and went to Brisbane, hes probably the most overrated player in the NRL, but good luck to him for scoring this deal i say

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

I think those numbers drastically dropped off after Mark Latham left politics.

Haha...that brought a smile to my face.

[SB076]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Another interesting stat....

AFL or NRL ? Guess which.


36 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault
71, repeat 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 currently are defendants in lawsuits and
84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Can you guess which organization this is? AFL? NRL?

Give up yet? . . .

Neither, it's the 535 members of the AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT IN CANBERRA


The same group of Idiots that crank out hundreds of new laws each year,
designed to keep the rest of us in line.

Thats a great post and so scary at the same time.

[buggerlugs]

I've followed AFL all my life allthough I have started losing interest in the last 4-5 years as it's just like keepings off now, and I like NRL, mainly the state of origins. But last night you had the Grand Final replay between the Storm and the Eels and you knew there would be plenty of spite in the game. And how many turned up to watch it ? 7500 people !!! NRL has a problem.............

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I've followed AFL all my life allthough I have started losing interest in the last 4-5 years as it's just like keepings off now, and I like NRL, mainly the state of origins. But last night you had the Grand Final replay between the Storm and the Eels and you knew there would be plenty of spite in the game. And how many turned up to watch it ? 7500 people !!! NRL has a problem.............

I'd say the weather was a major contributor in that case. Been raining all week here and very heavy the last couple of days. Would have been a much larger crowd if it were dry, for a start I probably would have been there with 2 mates.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by Rodp

I'd say the weather was a major contributor in that case. Been raining all week here and very heavy the last couple of days. Would have been a much larger crowd if it were dry, for a start I probably would have been there with 2 mates.

agreed, i still had 4 mates drive to the game from newcastle.

the NRL does have a problem with attendances, they need to schedule more day time games and look at the price of tickets

[austyphoon]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

agreed, i still had 4 mates drive to the game from newcastle.

the NRL does have a problem with attendances, they need to schedule more day time games and look at the price of tickets

But when it comes to TV ratings the NRL regularly rates higher. Friday and Sunday NRL games rate higher in two states then the AFL does in five! Not to mention that the NRL is a big ratings puller on foxtel compared to AFL( NRL with 32.7m viewers to AFL's 17.5m, despite being paid less by Foxtel).

Last year NRL had an aggregate audience of 128.5 million compared with AFL's 124.3 million, again mostly 2 states compared to 5. Pretty impressive!

As impressive as the AFL crowds are (one of the highest in the world if i'm not mistaken) TV execs don't care, it's all about the ratings!

Expect the NRL do bring those up at next years TV rights deal.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

and look at the price of tickets

just out of curiosity, what is the average price of each - afl and nrl? just general will do.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by austyphoon

But when it comes to TV ratings the NRL regularly rates higher. Friday and Sunday NRL games rate higher in two states then the AFL does in five! Not to mention that the NRL is a big ratings puller on foxtel compared to AFL( NRL with 32.7m viewers to AFL's 17.5m, despite being paid less by Foxtel).

Last year NRL had an aggregate audience of 128.5 million compared with AFL's 124.3 million, again mostly 2 states compared to 5. Pretty impressive!

As impressive as the AFL crowds are (one of the highest in the world if i'm not mistaken) TV execs don't care, it's all about the ratings!

Expect the NRL do bring those up at next years TV rights deal.

and yet the AFL has the bigger TV rights deal, AFL is clearly a healthier competition due to the teams making more money due to bigger crowds and club memberships

the NRL teams are struggling because they dont pull the crowds while the people running the NRL make millions from channel 9 and fox. until this changes the NRL teams will continue to struggle

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by prydey

just out of curiosity, what is the average price of each - afl and nrl? just general will do.

i think the tickets cost around $25 for NRL games, remembering NRL games are on at dinner time so factor in food and drink for you, the wife and 2 kids and its easy to see why its easier to stay home in the warmth of your lounge room.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Rodp

I'd say the weather was a major contributor in that case. Been raining all week here and very heavy the last couple of days. Would have been a much larger crowd if it were dry, for a start I probably would have been there with 2 mates.

Afl would normally bring in 20,000+ crowd for that weather.


Also for people that wanna know crowd numbers here:

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/summary.html - afl
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/summary.html - nrl

[prydey]

apparently the afl have given essendon the green light to chase inglis. his manager has already been spoken to.

bit of an article on afl website that i couldn't be bothered reading too much of. might be something. might be nothing.

maybe it will start an exodus.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Afl would normally bring in 20,000+ crowd for that weather.


Also for people that wanna know crowd numbers here:

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/summary.html - afl
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/summary.html - nrl

Because we're not used to crap weather in Sydney.. :P

[RG]

Originally Posted by Rodp

I'd say the weather was a major contributor in that case. Been raining all week here and very heavy the last couple of days. Would have been a much larger crowd if it were dry, for a start I probably would have been there with 2 mates.

So NRL supporters are soft?

[rodderz]

Originally Posted by prydey

apparently the afl have given essendon the green light to chase inglis. his manager has already been spoken to.

bit of an article on afl website that i couldn't be bothered reading too much of. might be something. might be nothing.

maybe it will start an exodus.

Inglis apparently said he would hate to be cut from the Storm only to play them as an opponent next year, and he would look at either overseas or a possible look at AFL

[Pat Riley]

Originally Posted by BOSHOG

there is a rule in the NBA salary cap giving exceptions to players who have been at an organisation for 10yrs. it was brought in so Larry Bird didnt have to leave the Celtics in the 80s. its referred to as the "Larry Bird rule". they also have a "veterans minimum", "mid level exception" and a few other exceptions and it all seems to work fine.

Under the Larry Bird rule, NBA players obtain "bird rights" if they play 3 consecutive seasons without being waived or changing teams via free-agency. This means that even if a team is over the salary cap, they can re-sign their players if those players have retained their "bird rights". This rule came about after Larry Bird's initial contract with the Celtics expired and he was trying to re-sign with them. The problem was Boston had no cap space, and so the NBA changed the rules to allow Boston and future teams to re-sign their own free-agents (limited to the maximum player salary cap).

The NBA is the only sports league that actually has an idea of how to run things from a draft point of view and a salary point of view.

Unlike the AFL, where the bottom team can get priority picks etc, the bottom team in the NBA simply has the highest chance of getting the # 1 pick which is usually ~ 25% chance. Much fairer and prevents or at least limits tanking.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by BA Falcon

Unlike the AFL, where the bottom team can get priority picks etc, the bottom team in the NBA simply has the highest chance of getting the # 1 pick which is usually ~ 25% chance. Much fairer and prevents or at least limits tanking.

apparently the afl draft system is illegal, but most teams are happy with it so no one challenges it. was brought up on the nrl footy show after the storm fiasco.

anyone elaborate?

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by prydey

maybe it will start an exodus.

that would be great for the sport - anyone heard of tom williams, grew up playing rubgy, we drafted him. he is great when he doesn't have the ball. we just hope he never gets it
just one player of course and not a top line one at that, but the two forms of the game are totally different and require many different principles

[prydey]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

that would be great for the sport - anyone heard of tom williams, grew up playing rubgy, we drafted him. he is great when he doesn't have the ball. we just hope he never gets it
just one player of course and not a top line one at that, but the two forms of the game are totally different and require many different principles

it seems most are aware of that except the big knobs in the big suits. not sure why they are currently going down this road.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by BA Falcon

Under the Larry Bird rule, NBA players obtain "bird rights" if they play 3 consecutive seasons without being waived or changing teams via free-agency. This means that even if a team is over the salary cap, they can re-sign their players if those players have retained their "bird rights". This rule came about after Larry Bird's initial contract with the Celtics expired and he was trying to re-sign with them. The problem was Boston had no cap space, and so the NBA changed the rules to allow Boston and future teams to re-sign their own free-agents (limited to the maximum player salary cap).

The NBA is the only sports league that actually has an idea of how to run things from a draft point of view and a salary point of view.

Unlike the AFL, where the bottom team can get priority picks etc, the bottom team in the NBA simply has the highest chance of getting the # 1 pick which is usually ~ 25% chance. Much fairer and prevents or at least limits tanking.

i stand corrected

the main reason drafts work in America and not here is their college system develops the players, here its the clubs themselves that develop the talent. id love to see a way that a draft would work in league

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by austyphoon

But when it comes to TV ratings the NRL regularly rates higher. Friday and Sunday NRL games rate higher in two states then the AFL does in five! Not to mention that the NRL is a big ratings puller on foxtel compared to AFL( NRL with 32.7m viewers to AFL's 17.5m, despite being paid less by Foxtel).

Last year NRL had an aggregate audience of 128.5 million compared with AFL's 124.3 million, again mostly 2 states compared to 5. Pretty impressive!

As impressive as the AFL crowds are (one of the highest in the world if i'm not mistaken) TV execs don't care, it's all about the ratings!

Expect the NRL do bring those up at next years TV rights deal.

Its easy to explain high TV ratings when no one actually turns up to the games and pays to get in, they just sit at home and watch for free and contribute nothing to the income of the teams.

NRL is on a serious down fall.

[BOSHOG]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Its easy to explain high TV ratings when no one actually turns up to the games and pays to get in, they just sit at home and watch for free and contribute nothing to the income of the teams.

NRL is on a serious down fall.

the NRL is going just fine, its the teams that are suffering because of the tiny crowds, it really is a shame when you watch old footage of the huge crowds the saturday afternoon games used to attract from the 50s through to the late 80s