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/me hopes this thread gets back on topic soon........
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I read all the posts last night, but there have obviously been more since then. I was thinking this morning and last night a bit too, about the possibility of scrapping the list form, in favor of a points based system.
I havent got long to type it out, but my idea is like this. DIY mods (air cleaner, carb jetting) = 0 points Extractors, zorst, ECU piggy backs = 1 point and so on and so on, obviously these would have to be refined, but i personally think that it would be better than having a car that only had different tyres on having to run in a class with members that had different diff ratios etc. Ok, off to work. 302 had the Stromberg WW 2 Barrel (also used on 250 2V Engine I think) They certainly were, and if you have one lying around, id be glad to have it ![]()
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I agree with Mark about diff changes being inthe same category as opened cars. Maybe a limit to the size of the difference in ratio.
For example, say going from 3:23 to 3:46 wouldnt do stuff all really, yet maybe it could apply for 4:11 or higher, where the change is more significant |
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What about the 4cyl's ?
Im sure there are quite a few of us on here how wouldnt mind being involved in this Chris
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at this point of time, and after watching some of the shit fights and smart arsed comments, by all, I am inclined not to go ahead with this.
This thread was started for constructive comments, not smart arsed ones, or idle chit chat At the end of the day, we just a have a simple table with everyones time, no classes, just times and speed This was setup for the average Ford owner to jump in his car, take it to the strip, and compare it to others with similar mods. The way everyone is heading you have driver weight as a catergory restriction
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And I dare say a that with the 8s, we can also include the 4's in regards to mods Gary
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Gary,
There is some real progress here. I think it can go ahead. There can be a way to run the older styles and make it equitable. I know yourself and simon have put up with some off topic discussion, but i see merit in whats happening with your efforts - dont let these guys distract you. Keep on it, it will work. If we cant wrap the whole package up just yet, we can run the EFI classes as discussed, and work on a package for the carby guys, and rarer engine configs. Please remember that we are all taking time out of our personal and working lives to create a unique situation that we will all benefit from. refrain from shit stirring, as we will all win in the end if these guys can get this together. We all want this system in one way or another, so we need positive people. Thanks Chris |
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People who are not positive to the way something is writen in the classes system is set out, still feel free to post, its constructive stuff we need, if you don’t like something in these classes. Put something forward but keep it on track..
Its your cars your system..
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sorry mark
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I should have worded my post better.
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If you wanted to when the vehicles times are listed you would have next to it if its an XR8 or a GT, make more sence to add that the hiest placed XR8 AND GT have the same prizes....
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I'm extremely sorry if my attempted joke was taken out of context. It's very hard on a forum like this because we can not see each others faces. People who know me see my tongue is always in my cheek, I take no pleasure in upsetting anyone.
Laminge and GTP-330 this is a great idea and your efforts are very much appreciated. Quote:
![]() I would like rules where we all get to race each other, what do others think? GTP-330 you have done a great job with the draft. May be take a step back and let the ideas in the thread develop. Then see what comes out at the end and you and Laminge can make whatever changes you think are required. At the moment you appear to be shoting people down as soon as they post. For rules to work they need to be accepted. For rules to be accepted you need to ask interseted parties to have input and listern to that input.
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Does that make sence? Im not trying to get arqumentative. Its just frustrating..... What ppl need to do is instead of just saying that a rules is shit, give us some scope as to how to make it work.?? If you can come up with rules that makes everyone happy Ill be the first to shake your hand and say well done. ![]() ![]() ![]() Sorry if ive given any other impretion to what i have listed above
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Just lets take the right road and make the post constructive and reasonable
I state again, simple really, most of us havent got 20+ years of drag racing experience under our belts, I just want to have fun, and have a SIMPLE guidline to cover everyone.
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I could not agree more that you will not please everyone, all you can do is try your best. I'm sure that is all you are trying to do. No one is saying your rules are shit, far from it. You may be mistaking other peoples ideas as criticism, not so.
I posted this earlier without much detail. I could add much if most people are interested in everyone competeing. If it's just me and a few others I will not bother and stop confusing an otherwise great idea you have. Quote:
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ahh now see there inlies the next hurdle.. how do we incluse cars times that have run before being scrutneered??not to mention as an example, rods car wouldnt fall into Perfromance street, from memory it has headlights out, comp ta tyres, ect headlights being a body part.
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It's being made too complicated, I personally think. Loads of work for someone who probably has something else better to do.
Was there any reason the classes were changed from prior drag events? As that setup was much simpler. Brenden
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Are Nitto tyres ( like what Mark has for sale in sig) allowed for in Performance Street....and what does adr / drags mean?
Cheers Brad
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Is the proposal that these rules would superseed the F6, F8, etc classes that are currently run at AFF events?
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There is a chance I may have the wrong end of the stick here! (Not the first or last time). I just came across the "Real Street" thread where this idea was born from. Now I understand what you guys are on about. Perhaps if you call these "Dragracing event rules for new Boss powered vehicle" people like me would but out.
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You carnt grab the wrong end of a stick if its round!
Yep, and No. This is to cover all classes, but its getting way too heavy. Simple please guys
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Yes please, it would be appreciated
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but that is still a modified body part.YES. Quote:
nitto's make many types of tyres all we hear is about there drag radial wich is a 555R..
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Points System.
Racing brackets consist of a points system ranging from 0 (stock), to 30 (heavily modified). Points are cumulative, and after everything is added up, you race against cars with similar points total with a variation of 3±. I’ll use the word penalty to describe the points system, because I can’t think of any other appropriate words. So for every mod that you have in a particular group you get the set number of points per item. Obviously the Points table, points range and the variation between cars racing is open for discussion. As for the diff ratio, if your car has had its diff ratio changed to +.30 of original you will incur 6 points for that. 1 Point Air Cleaner Intake Modifications Spark Plugs Carburettor Jetting Timing Premium Unleaded (unless stated by manufacturer as requirement) 2 Points Extractors Exhaust systems ECU piggy back systems Carburettor Changes (increased CMF) Wheels 1inch wider than standard NON factory tires – Must be road going, everyday tires. Auto Shift Kits 3 Points Diff ratio changes, within .25 of original Cam changes Intake manifold changes NON factory tires – DOT approved, but not everyday tires 20 Points Not being helpful in trying to make a system that is going to be useful and effective for everyone, and undermining the work being done by others, for others to have fun. Really the rest I have no idea, as im not really up to speed with what kind of effect certain mods will have on performance… Im just really trying to set up an alternative so that someone running a different set of tires isn’t relegated to a bracket where they cant see themselves being competitive against their competitors. Even if it is only for fun, seeing yourself being beaten isn’t fun. As for lightening, 1 point per kilo sounds reasonable. I was also thinking of adding .5 to mods that could have been performed by yourself, but had a professional do.. but didnt think that it would benefit anyone. It makes sense to me. What do you think?
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I like this points stuff in some instances but where it gets hard for the older vehicles(This is why i wanted a sepeate class) as its pretty much impossible to check jets ect ect .. even diff ratios its a bit hard. I think its all just getting to hard.
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give me 5 mins i've worked out something that i think might work
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This is just for the v8's atm, it still might need some cleaning up but i reckon its close.
Factory Stock. Cars are to be run as purchased. No mods with standard tyres. Tyres can be replaced with same tyre equivalent. Performance Street. All bolt ons allowed incl chip, edit or other Must stay N/A. Must run 98 octane fuel. Un opened engines. Standard manifold, Oversize throttle bodies allowed. Tyres, can run changes to equavalent ratings, NO adr or Drags (RWC Standards) All body parts must stay intact. No removal of exhaust components. Aftermarket Exhaust allowed Must run Cats. No body mods allowed or chassis changes. No Diff/ratio change Modified Street. Street slicks and wider tyres allowed. No body mods allowed or chassis changes. No Cubic Engine changes in this section other than standard rebuild which retain stock internals. Cam Changes allowed Diff Changes allowed Aftermarket Exhaust allowed Must run Cats. Must run 98 octane fuel. Manifold change allowed Carby/injector change allowed Shift kit allowed Pro Street Body mods allowed eg headlight, tailgates.. Full race slicks allowed Cubic inch change allowed Any exhaust allowed Race fuel allowed Open engine Cam change Diff/ratio change Any engine, trans, diff combo allowed as long as its from the same facory, eg top loader into EB, yes, chev into te cortina, no. Outlaw Street. All mechanical restrictions removed. No chassis changes All forms of power adders allowed. (Turbo’s S/C NO2).
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