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Old 21-01-2017, 11:55 AM   #61
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Old 21-01-2017, 11:59 AM   #62
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Mental health is a big social issue issue , but the bigger issue here for me is why the powers that be wont let police take care of dudes like this before it got this stage , and i understand sometimes when police take action there may be more hurt than that caused by the offender , and that is unfortunate ,
but coppers should not be afraid persecution when they have to pull guns out to deal with scum bags .

Add to this ......... about half an hour ago i read this bloke has been granted bail ........ i just have no words .
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Perhaps, ''mentally ill violent offenders'' need to be off the streets. Please be careful with your choice of words. Millions of people suffer from mental illness like depression or anxiety etc, myself included.
I would have imagined mr smith comment was for the ones with a history who are known to physically harm others or themselves with violent intent.
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The real problem now days is that lawyers know of the mental health loop hole.
So "mental health" always gets thrown out there to try to get lighter sentances then 6-12months later they're back on the streets doing the same ****.

Fcck that.
Its these same fcck heads that fill our emergency rooms when we have to sit and wait 3 hrs with a broken arm because 4 dcckheads have decided to try some new drug and flipped out.
Make a big room and just dump them in there and if they make it they make it. They have a choice to use crap or not. Most people dont choose to break an arm or leg etc or get sick.

Better yet just start mulching these scum of society. Im sure once they see what happens to people like them crime rates and drug usage will severly lessen.
They know they're going to get special treatment so they keep doing it.
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Old 21-01-2017, 12:52 PM   #65
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Mental health is a big social issue issue , but the bigger issue here for me is why the powers that be wont let police take care of dudes like this before it got this stage , and i understand sometimes when police take action there may be more hurt than that caused by the offender , and that is unfortunate ,
but coppers should not be afraid persecution when they have to pull guns out to deal with scum bags .

Add to this ......... about half an hour ago i read this bloke has been granted bail ........ i just have no words .
Being granted bail is the problem. The guy has a history but still was able to be let out.

The situation the police were in would be lots going on and having to make the correct decision at the time. There isnt a point in having a go at the police (not saying you are) when its a situation that could have been avoided.
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Old 21-01-2017, 01:08 PM   #66
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Being granted bail is the problem. The guy has a history but still was able to be let out.

The situation the police were in would be lots going on and having to make the correct decision at the time. There isnt a point in having a go at the police (not saying you are) when its a situation that could have been avoided.
Indeed , i have nothing but respect for the police that have a difficult job to do , I just question the " let them go we will get them later when its safer " policy .
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Just another criminal scumbag like thousands of others that have in the past or will in the future use mental illness to escape proper justice and no doubt he will thanks to our gutless do gooder governments that make the soft c*ck, feel good laws to appease the minority.
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Indeed , i have nothing but respect for the police that have a difficult job to do , I just question the " let them go we will get them later when its safer " policy .
I think the thing was the police weren't trying to escalate the situation... then the maniac escalated it on his own accord. It's always easy to think of the ideal response in retrospect but I don't blame the police one little bit for this one.
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A sad state our justice system is in. I feel a repeat of the Lint Café saga. Police knew about this chap and yet free to roam and cause grief to the innocent.
All these royal commisions and senate inquiries into tragedies and loss off life dont seem to be achieving a lot.The governments are failing the people and its time they started to do something about it.

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Add to this ......... about half an hour ago i read this bloke has been granted bail ........ i just have no words .
Not sure where you read that, news reports still have him under Police guard in Hospital.
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He is probably on Ice and had a sycophathic episode. So sad , I have lived all over Australia and Melbourne people are the most inviting and social very friendly.
This idiots that can't control themselves should be extradited send him back to Greece. I don't care how long he has been here we are constantly putting up with scum from OS breaking laws.
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He is probably on Ice and had a sycophathic episode. So sad , I have lived all over Australia and Melbourne people are the most inviting and social very friendly.
This idiots that can't control themselves should be extradited send him back to Greece. I don't care how long he has been here we are constantly putting up with scum from OS breaking laws.
Plenty of scum that were born here breaking our laws.

More then likely he is one of them.
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Plenty of scum that were born here breaking our laws.

More then likely he is one of them.
Agree we breed our own no need to import them... met many Greeks in Melbourne awsome people beautiful daughters but every migrant family that comes to Australia should be on good behaviour for life I would throw them out for littering.
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Not sure where you read that, news reports still have him under Police guard in Hospital.
i`m old mate .....and easily confused these days , but i will see if i can find the article and probably eat some more humble pie if i read it wrong , one good thing about being old and silly ..... plenty of humble pie ...... i`m never hungry .
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Not sure where you read that, news reports still have him under Police guard in Hospital.
yup you are correct, a mis read on my part he was " already " out on bail for other offences.

"The 26-year-old man allegedly responsible for the rampage that killed four people, including a young child, in Melbourne was ‘out on bail’, local reports claimed ".
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I work in East Melbourne, 15 min walk from where this occurred. We received notification that something had happened and was advised to avoid the CBD.

Watching it unfold on TV/internet made is an alternate reality. Hard to think that we were 15 mins from it. Most of us go shopping during our lunch.

Personally I don't think the driver will get what he deserves. The way the justice systems works, he will practically get away with it by way of a drug rehabilitation.
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I work in East Melbourne, 15 min walk from where this occurred. We received notification that something had happened and was advised to avoid the CBD.

Watching it unfold on TV/internet made is an alternate reality. Hard to think that we were 15 mins from it. Most of us go shopping during our lunch.

Personally I don't think the driver will get what he deserves. The way the justice systems works, he will practically get away with it by way of a drug rehabilitation.
I don't think he will get off lightly. Even if it's a case of drugged up, mental illness, fit of rage or whatever. Being on bail makes anything many times worse. Even if he got stopped after just doing the burnouts, there is a high chance that would cancel the terms of his bail. Killing multiple people with evidence of intent will probably be classed as murder rather then manslaughter. Injuring others won't help his cause. He will rot. (How come the term manslaughter sounds so much worse then the term murder, yet manslaughter is unintentional and murder intentional? )
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Easy to say after the fact! What did you expect the cops to do while he was circling that intersection? The only thing they could have done was a head shot, and then you'd most likely be crowing on about police brutality! Along with all the other do gooders living in fantasy land.
A car can still drive after a tyre or two is flat.
The cooling system can take minutes to drain from something the size of a bullet, and once drained the car could still be driven for minutes before coming to a stop.

Same with the Lindt siege, all the no all experts come out of the woodwork and enlighten us on what the authorities should have done.
Yes, but after all that and what did, didn't happen or could have happened, the man was known to police and the chase began a substantial distance away from the CBD. The fact remains that a whole fleet of Victoria police and the air wing couldn't stop a gutless 20+ year old worn out V6 Holedent Commondoor and several unfortunate souls perished as a result. If that isn't incompetence, I don't know what incompetence is.
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Can't believe the racially slanted comments. Listen up people. The world is mostly full of good people who do the right thing. For a myriad of reasons, people do disgraceful things to each other in EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD. Every time a person posts a racial comment, they are spreading hatred and showing their illness, just like the person they are complaining about.
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Yes, but after all that and what did, didn't happen or could have happened, the man was known to police and the chase began a substantial distance away from the CBD. The fact remains that a whole fleet of Victoria police and the air wing couldn't stop a gutless 20+ year old worn out V6 Holedent Commondoor and several unfortunate souls perished as a result. If that isn't incompetence, I don't know what incompetence is.
That's true. Need more cop cars with big bullbars and more cops that are not afraid of being prosecuted for injuring criminals.

This idiot was on bail, stabbed someone in the face, previously had a hostage in a car he stole after bashing the elderly owner, then he was doing circle work in Australias second busiest CBD while screaming nonsense from the window while the cops are just watching from a distance.
What an absolute joke.

It's not the police's fault. They are to worried that they will be held accountable for police brutality if they try anything too much. Especially with that many people watching.
But if you do anything that reckless in a highly populated area you deserve whatever happens to you. Even if you don't you have a history or were not actually trying to hurt anyone.
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Agree we breed our own no need to import them... met many Greeks in Melbourne awsome people beautiful daughters but every migrant family that comes to Australia should be on good behaviour for life I would throw them out for littering.
You're just a friggin dill... what a stupid stupid post!
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I really don't understand where the racist rhetoric has come from on this occasion.

I'm not the SJW type at all but honestly... the ethnicity of the perpetrator was the last thing that came to my mind.
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Many condolences to the grieving families of this horrific tragedy, my heart & prayers goes out to them & their closest ones.

The perpetrator can xxxxxxxx rot in hell, his time will be up very soon in jail.

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I really don't understand where the racist rhetoric has come from on this occasion.

I'm not the SJW type at all but honestly... the ethnicity of the perpetrator was the last thing that came to my mind.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. It is totally irrelevant.
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Four people have died, others badly injured but all some can bang on about is 'Ooooh. I'm offended. Some nasty racist person, has like, pointed out their ethnicity'.

Get over yourselves...
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I would have imagined mr smith comment was for the ones with a history who are known to physically harm others or themselves with violent intent.
I would like to think that's what he meant. No harm in educating people to save them insulting others down the track.
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