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Ofcourse they would CWool.
Hub dynos never ticked my box’s even to performance cars for it doesn’t relate to street use but I get it for the companies searching for performance figures to quote. The witch hunts on friggin dual cabs I just finf random but I suppose we have never had a true performance product till the V6 finally arrived but what’s the point head to head to the lesser engines it doesn’t compete against in the first place. As for a real world comparo of similar engine outputs they could set a standard load of recreational general light products, roof racks, alloy front bar no winch as I mentioned with stock wheels show us the figures. Cheeez Franco I don’t spot much of soccer Mums in duals cab round my regular areas at all, infact none. It’s all SUV. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Thats why I said GCM, it includes vehicle and trailer to max combined load.
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I would be interested if someone did a bed bend test with a load in the back.
I am sure it has been done it in the past in the USA with their vehicles. It would really show differences in rigidity ect. Some brands would be rigid whilst other would flex like a rubber band. This would be more relevant than quarter mile times for these things and give an insight on how each brand is really made / engineered.
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It doesn't bother me compared to some, I recall all us guys doing the same in our Ford/Holden utes/vans/wagons - even though the Thai Specials don't have the outright power size matters in todays conjested roads lol...... Was I guilty using "size" to get my patch of road (or playing chicken who's more worried about damage) when verging or any other situation ? you bet ya hahaha...... I'd say Melb has its special kind of behaviour (more radars than any place I've driven round here and worst cops), more flogs than any other place in the country ![]()
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Living in both states I find NSW is far more over regulated.
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They should have brought the Ford Maverick here, would be a perfect sub Ranger model with a more street focus than LCV.
If Ranger dual cab starts at that $50K mark then you'd have the Maverick come in at that $30K-$50K mark for sure. |
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Well I guess we can chuck this in here
I don't mind a basic ****box, at the end of the day you do need some vehicle which is designed for work (single cab Thailand Special). Plus towing a trailer around is a pain in the *** I reckon, ever since I got a single cab ute we hardly use the 6x4 trailer anymore. Tip run - ute Bunnings run - ute |
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Interesting quote....... Additionally, with health and safety always in mind—not only due to COVID-19, but also complying with Chain of Responsibility (CoR) obligations—it’s worth looking at whether your work vehicle continues to hit the mark in terms of payload capacity, reliability and efficiency. Payload No matter what your trade or service, payload will be at the top of your considerations, from both a practical and safety point of view. Light trucks, in some cases, are as compact and easily maneuverable as utes, and are specifically engineered to handle heavier payloads than their smaller cousins. This makes trucks a sensible fit for trades and services like last mile delivery, house repairs and maintenance, construction, landscaping and excavation. A truck with payload to spare can provide extra peace of mind, ensuring compliance with CoR obligations, and minimising the risks of potentially overloading your vehicle. Which brings us to… Towing capacity Comparing the different types of commercial vehicles in the light duty space, the GCM of a light truck (starting at 8,000 kg GCM) typically outweighs that of utes or vans, helping to avoid any banana-bend situations arising from overloading the chassis.
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Mine, hardy see a HWP, see some squad local ones now and then. The traffic light/mobile cams now everyone knows of and I don't even know any friend or associate been nabbed. Those parked speed cameras came around of late like Melb have had for as long as I can recall but have warning signs before/after, if your caught can only blame yourself not noticing. The weighbridge checks etc obviously I'm not effected so know nothing there. If I recall right they came along for so so many trucks light or heavy duty trucks we're POS due to neglect not being safe/road worthy by those types and I'm all for that but for sure the RMS would push the boundaries. The other costs mentioned it is what it is when you live here, I have no worries paying thats Govs all over, positive is cars are road worthy unlike some States, what Gov ever gives back or replaces from one scheme to another. Being you travel regional alot I'm not suprised you seeing more HWP etc, hey thats the cash cow. I feel comfortable driving all over Sydney over the usual speed limits (10/15k easy even 20) whereas when I'm in Melb totally opposite going back 20yrs and more thats what I'm actually talking about. Anyway sorry off topic.
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When I was driving, anything parked on the side of the open road was suss, but they're a little harder to pick in town when they're parked in a line of other cars.
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His first review was the mighty VDJ79 Land Cruiser ute, you know the one that costs an arm and a leg, has a boat anchor 4.5L V8 making 1970s power and torque figures and costs 6 figures? I watched his review, then commented he should compare the VDJ79 to one of the Jap light trucks you can drive on a car licence, and he responded saying thats a great idea and he will try get his hands on a press vehicle from Isuzu but its low priority at the moment. Anyway all the VDJ79 heroes come out the woodwork claiming that they ride like ****, not like the VDJ79 is known for it grand tourer ride ![]() The fact that someone even dared try compare the VDJ79 to the Isuzu N series was so preposterous that the heroes got on the offensive ![]() I suggest all these butthurt princesses who complain about how an Isuzu N series rides compared to their beloved VDJ79 should invest in one of those donut pillows for their poor behinds. There's no one doing reviews of those light trucks and comparing them to the work versions of the Thailand Specials, I think there's a hole in the market there thats being overlooked. I think most of the appeal of the VDJ79 is that it has an image attached to it of 'gruff hard working Australian man, with his Japanese ute' that they then drive unloaded as their daily driver on the freeway and it doesn't as much as see a dirt road ![]() Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 20-02-2023 at 07:17 PM. |
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So for anyone who doesn't want to sit through over an hour of towing tests of Thailand Specials
Nearly all the Thailand Specials couldn't make 100km/h on the laden test (excl Raptor and Wildtrack) ![]() ![]() Stopping distances - Raptor loses out because of its junk tyres: ![]() Fuel economy test - Mopar 6 cylinder is a right turd losing out to the American utes: ![]() Navara and Triton are absolute bottom of the barrel turds of the whole crop, Navara got chopped by the GWM Cannon in some of the tests ![]() Its a good test that puts paid to the absolute bull**** of these '3500kg' towing capacities, like I've said before you put most of these things up to a hill and they'd go backwards and I was right - heaps were struggling big time with 2500kg on the back let alone the extra 1000kg they're rated to. The Navara being the consistent turd of the lot, it couldn't even make 50km/h flat to the boards up the hill. Overall winner awarded to - RAM 1500. There you go, in the grand Thailand Special shootout the American ute takes the award. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-02-2023 at 12:02 AM. |
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Every component in them is overbuilt to a larger stronger design than Thai utes. Old and new Cruisers are everywhere around my area, most farmers and horse people use them, there's usually a 2-3T gooseneck tray truck parked in the shed alongside.
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Be good if they included a 79 in that test. Guaranteed the 79 be at the bottom of every stat. Also, 3kN, does that equate to 3 tonne? |
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Talking with my younger nephew (mid 20's) he's quoted his mates love the 79series for their use and I'm staggered at their cost a few own them. (todays young felllas love the 4x4 trend like we loved the Falcon/Holden of old) Not surprised by those Rams results, its also designed to "tow", the US versions there designed to work with trailers, with electric brakes yaddayadda normal US market needs. Nice the 2500 has coil rear end. The biggest handicap the Rams have to our market is the "price", joe average goes straight to the Thai Specials ofcourse warts and all.....
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3kN Laden....that's 300kg test??? I wonder how the newer RAM V8 Hemi would go. This is the sort of vehicle professional Hotshot teams in the states are running alongside the diesel.
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The GWM Cannon and the Ssangyong Musso, their cruise control doesn't work when towing which was an absolute joke. Then they did a 15% grade with a 2500kg trailer on the back and the Thailand Specials struggled, again except the Raptor and the Wildtrack. Plus some they noticed the trailer was starting to push the back of the ute around at 2500kg. I find it ironic that the vehicles which handled it all with ease aren't diesel engines. Excl the Jeep with it's junk V6. The Raptor tore *** up the hill to the point it started trying to break the rears loose because of those absolute junk tyres. They should offer a no cost option for HTs I reckon, 90% of the people who own Raptors won't even see a dirt road. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-02-2023 at 12:00 PM. |
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3kN converts to 300kg. So wasn't much of a load.
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There has to be more to it, because if it was only 300kg then they all would have been able to make 100km/h and wouldn't have used 30L/100km pulling only 300kg.
The Thailand Specials we're all holding gears pulling redline flat to the boards struggling to pull that thing. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-02-2023 at 12:14 PM. |
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