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20-03-2013, 11:48 PM | #61 | ||
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When the gauge on my XC reads empty I have about 40-50% of a tank left (didn't bother adjusting the repro fuel sender). A bit low on cash one week I decided to risk it and drove to work for 3 days (I was going to fill up on the afternoon of the 3rd day), no sign of the car being low on fuel until I hit a steep hill and the car stopped completely on the 3rd day.
I usually keep the tank full enough so I can tell what I've got on the gauge - requires me to fill up a couple of times a week which is the only downside. I like knowing for sure that I have enough rather than hopefully having enough, running out out fuel in the right lane of a busy main road wasn't fun. |
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21-03-2013, 09:19 AM | #62 | |||
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21-03-2013, 09:59 AM | #63 | ||
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Hey...the rods were pretty strong lol
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21-03-2013, 10:29 AM | #64 | |||
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29-03-2013, 02:22 AM | #65 | ||
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I've had mine down to about 2-3km to empty and there was still about 8L left in the tank.
I've also noticed the fuel gauge change it's behavior based on the average consumption...
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31-03-2013, 12:11 PM | #66 | ||
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When I had my fuel tank flushed in my FG ( replaced in the end ) I ran it to 0km on the DTE. And I could still drive it.
Ford tell me when it hits 0km you have 15km left to get some juice. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2 |
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31-03-2013, 03:43 PM | #67 | |||
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mine hits 0 on the DTE at about 55L used. tank is 68L. I normally run to 60L used and fill up. what I put in the tank is always within 1-2L of what the fuel used says. on the highway, its virtually spot on. |
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31-03-2013, 05:46 PM | #69 | ||
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I have never let the DTE go below 40. Most time I fill it up as soon as she beeps at me with 80 left in it. I have an AUII Forte.
After reading that the car can run down to zip on the DTE is reassuring that I should never run out. |
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01-04-2013, 11:47 AM | #70 | |||
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11-05-2013, 06:50 PM | #71 | ||
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Old thread I know, but the BA fuel tank is only 58 litres on the sedans which is quite annooying. Couldn't they have fitted a larger one?
Wifes commy is 68 litres I think. I've ran mine down to 20km and it still had 8 litres in the tank. That was close enough.
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11-05-2013, 07:08 PM | #72 | ||
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Im pretty sure all falcon sedans have 68 litre tanks
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11-05-2013, 11:11 PM | #73 | ||
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Well. I stand corrected!
68 it is. 69 on the turbo and 70 on the xr8. How does that work?
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12-05-2013, 08:50 PM | #74 | ||
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My car was designed by German Ford. It has a read out in the centre of the instruments that tells me how many kilometres to go before I run out.
When it reaches 80, the orange “fuel pump” light comes on. When it reaches 20, the red light flashes, and stays on and it beeps. Those Germans clearly take running out of fuel very seriously.
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12-05-2013, 10:25 PM | #75 | ||
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13-05-2013, 10:28 AM | #76 | |||
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not to worry, I answered my own ponderance...I did the same thing again last week...ran it down to where all lights and beeps were at full voice filled it up which took 52 litres, means I should have roughly 16 ltrs left depending on how long the warnings have been on of course and if I could get every drop out of the tank
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21-05-2013, 11:29 PM | #77 | |||
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21-05-2013, 11:46 PM | #78 | ||
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So, found out how many KM's I could do in the BA Ghia today on "empty". 4km's.
... to make it worse, I was 100m from the servo (heading there to fill up) at traffic lights when it died. Typical. Half an hour later and i'm back on my way after a bit of help from NRMA... Took 66L in total, so it was pretty accurate...
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22-05-2013, 07:51 AM | #79 | |||
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Noting the "fuel used" and then how much to fill the car I found discrepancies of over 5 litres on a number of occasions. It makes sense that this would not be accurate as the odometer definitely is so the only way the av fuel used, DTE or and of the other functions that are a permutation of fuel and distance could be inaccurate is if the fuel usage was not. |
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22-05-2013, 09:00 AM | #81 | |||
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Not to mention one of those "highway patrol" TV shows from New Zealand where a woman in a new Beetle ran out of fuel on a motorway in Auckland, and after rescuing here, they handed her a staggeringly large fine for "running out of fuel on a motoway"...the unsympathetic police said there was "absolutely no excuse for letting your car get low on fuel", and gave the woman, a lawyer, the fine...I believe it was several hundred bucks from memory... http://www.themotorreport.com.au/406...el-on-freeways This article is from way back in 2009, so they obviously got their way and brought in the fines...in fact, do a simple google search for "running out of fuel on a motorway" and you will see that around the world they take running out of fuel very seriously indeed... Last edited by 2011G6E; 22-05-2013 at 09:13 AM. |
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22-05-2013, 09:40 AM | #82 | ||
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The lowest dte I have got on the fairmont is 70, I tend to fill up at 1/4 tank to go.
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22-05-2013, 09:52 AM | #83 | ||
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the trouble with the DTE on the display, as I see it, is that the numerics used in the calculation procedure are based on last known fuel usage versus what SHOULD be in the tank.
given the ever changing variables at any one time it is a wonder the DTE can even work out a very rough guestimate. my conclusion...........I think the amount left in the tank, at the first sign of "empty" would vary enormously and would not be a simple answer.
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22-05-2013, 10:18 AM | #84 | |||
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This is all very well if you own an XB Falcon, but systems have changed substantially in the last decade. If the vehicle trip computer function has the ability to provide instantaneous fuel consumption data as most cars produced within the last 5 or 6 years, then this information is tanken from the engine management processor and not some resistor in the fuel tank sender unit. The total fuel consumed data is just the sum of the instantaneous fuel consumption data.
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22-05-2013, 10:38 AM | #85 | ||
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Just use the fuel guage. Fill up when it's in the red :P
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22-05-2013, 10:40 AM | #86 | ||
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(quote) If the vehicle trip computer function has the ability to provide instantaneous fuel consumption data as most cars produced within the last 5 or 6 years, then this information is tanken from the engine management processor and not some resistor in the fuel tank sender unit. The total fuel consumed data is just the sum of the instantaneous fuel consumption data.[/QUOTE]
exactly.......and given the "instantaneous" usage data required to make this calculation varies from minute to minute then the readout would be "rubbery" at best
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22-05-2013, 11:15 AM | #87 | ||
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I work in pre delivery. I drive falcons and territory's with zero dte almost every day. They have always made it to the servo. This is current FG and SZ territory's. I have also run my petrol ba to 0 as well without stoping.
I don't like to push my luck in my egas ba wagon though as running out will mean a tow truck. Mondeos and focus's are not do generous though. 0 means pretty much zero. |
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22-05-2013, 11:57 AM | #88 | |||
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my FG guage isn't accurate(a known issue in early FG's), but the trip computer has a 'fuel used' function which i've mentioned already. this is the most accurate guage i've ever come across in a car for fuel. it is always within a litre of the amount i put in. doesn't matter what style of driving, the fuel used reading is close to perfect. so i don't know how the computer is set up to calculate it all, but its by no means 'rubbery', or a 'rough guesstimate' in my experiences. |
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22-05-2013, 12:32 PM | #89 | ||
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how far back does the computer take its measurement. if it were instant and using split second known perimeters then the DTE would be ever changing second by second depending on terrain, load, speed.
it must make certain "assumptions" based on a previous measurement of all combined inputs to come up with a "best guess" summation I've deliberately run mine down accurately to 80 K's left on the DTE now and both fuel top ups were different amounts.
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22-05-2013, 01:19 PM | #90 | ||
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Easy way to tell for me anyway.
Fuel light comes on, get to a servo. No fuel = air in fuel line = line bleed = can't do = more money than I have
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