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04-07-2010, 10:25 AM | #61 | |||
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04-07-2010, 10:42 AM | #62 | |||
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same old bull crap different day. total sales don't mean jack **** if you can make a profit. |
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04-07-2010, 11:57 AM | #63 | ||
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Ute83 stop looking at the overall sales as some sort of indicator of company performance. Ford made a profit last year and are by all reports on track to do so again this year. Too many people both on this forum and in general place way too much emphasis on total sales basically so they can brag to their mates or some bloke down the pub.
I would rather see what we're seeing from ford, steady sales performance backed up with profit. |
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04-07-2010, 06:55 PM | #64 | |||
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04-07-2010, 08:30 PM | #66 | |||
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All the news coming out of ford in the recent past has been but positive and it looks to continue into the future. I'm going out on a limb here and make the assumption you're only here to start an arguement so i'll take the high ground, consider this my final reply to your trolling. |
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04-07-2010, 09:22 PM | #67 | |||
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a lot of stuff behind the scenes being developed and test facilities being built are being paid for. The coming years will be better with more income now being derived from the castings plant. Ford Aust are being paid $700 million for developing the T6, that is sucking up a lot of cash at the moment.... |
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04-07-2010, 10:06 PM | #68 | |||
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http://www.fordforums.com.au/vbporta...article&id=848 Anther thing that the car industry does which I think is wrong & not done this way in most other industries is the sales of "one" Getz worth 13K is the same as "one" GE6T worth 50K??? The car industry shows that as a 50/50 market share, yet most would say 20/80 market share in Fords favour!! Last edited by Joe5619; 04-07-2010 at 10:15 PM. |
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05-07-2010, 11:55 AM | #69 | ||||
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2005- 148 million profit 2006- 40.3 million loss 2007- 87.2 million loss 2008- 274.4 million loss 2009- 13 million profit Total loss = 240.9 million loss. --------------------------------------------------- GM Holden`s losses (i.e. no profits) for the last 5yrs: 2005 - 145 million loss 2006 - 146 million loss 2007 - 6 million loss 2008 - 70 million loss 2009 - 210 million loss Total loss = 577 million Despite Holden having superior sales numbers year on year, they keep heading deeper into the red (haha). Now they want to severely reduce their profit margin even more to 1997 prices just to keep the number one spot: Quote:
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05-07-2010, 04:33 PM | #70 | ||
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New Vehicle Sales Figures June 2010
Toyota 21257 Holden 13836 Ford 10012 Hyundai 8055 Mazda 8024 Mitsubishi 7203 Nissan 7058 Honda 5373 Volkswagen 4759 Subaru 4066 Kia 2820 Mercedes-Benz 2410 Suzuki 2342 BMW 1651 Audi 1342 Peugeot 691 Lexus 657 Jeep 574 Great Wall 556 Isuzu Ute 523 Land Rover 521 Volvo Car 469 MINI 215 Skoda 179 Citroen 174 Dodge 139 Fiat 124 Proton 120 Renault 103 Alfa Romeo 100 Chrysler 99 Ssangyong 90 Jaguar 80 Porsche 65 Smart 23 Maserati 15 Aston Martin 8 Ferrari 6 Hummer 5 Lamborghini 5 Lotus 5 Bentley 4 Rolls-Royce 2 Morgan 0 Saab 0 Anyone have the model breakdown? |
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05-07-2010, 04:42 PM | #71 | ||
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If Ford only sold 2600 Falcons, yet still sold 10,000, some of the other models must have had a good month??
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05-07-2010, 04:46 PM | #72 | |||
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I know for fact the Territory outsold the Kluger, but have no figures. |
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05-07-2010, 04:52 PM | #73 | ||
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they may have had a bumper car sales month, but the inital figures from Vfacts dont look too good percentage wise for the local manufacturers.
Year to day (compared to last year) large cars 48699 (09) compared to 51349 (10), only a 2700 jump from a very bad first half 2009. 4x2 Utes ytd 33389 (09) compared to 30893 (10) As a total percentage of sales - Large cars for first six months last year were 11.1% but this year are only 9.3%. For 4 x 2 utes it was 8.4 % last year but is now only 5.7% this year. Biggest gains were in the small, light, and SUV compact segments. |
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05-07-2010, 05:00 PM | #74 | |||
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All the Territory naysayers really have to have a look at the sales figures every month, as it is amazing that a six year old design can still outsell Toyota's newer, if not prettier design.
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Fiesta 1200, Focus 800, Mondeo 500, Ranger 4x2 & 4x4 2,000 sales, Transit 150, Escape 350, we're up to 5,000 of the total 10,000 sales. That leaves 5,000, now take off 2600 Falcons and you have 2400 for Territory and Ute combined... Last edited by jpd80; 05-07-2010 at 05:15 PM. |
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June VFACTS: Biggest sales month in history
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05-07-2010, 06:33 PM | #80 | ||
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Biggest sales month in history and Ford only gets 2651 Falcon sales...?? Bloody hell, get rid of the marketing team. There is no way that can be justified against an ageing competitor and the prices they are selling Falcons for.
Also is this the first time Cruze has outsold Falcon? |
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05-07-2010, 07:26 PM | #81 | |||
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I can't believe Craptiva... New Territ should sell like hot cakes went it gets here!! |
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05-07-2010, 07:47 PM | #82 | ||||
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I'm totally shocked by the Falcons numbers. Territory build numbers were down and the majority of builds were Falcons all month, an overtime Saturday as well, and numbers are lower than they have been for months. Where have all the extra Falcons gone?
Unless they were being stockpiled for this weeks programmed shutdown? Can't see why they would do that though. |
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05-07-2010, 10:43 PM | #87 | ||
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Ford would be selling a lot more Falcons if they hadn't misread the market. The replacement for the Egas engine should have been released by now but Ford shelved a lot of their LPG development several years ago and it was only revived when petrol prices started skyrocketing. Now they are playing catchup.
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05-07-2010, 11:24 PM | #89 | ||
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Thank you Russell, would you have the figure for Ranger 4x4?
I see from the uploaded chart that it's around 1500.... June 2010: Ford Falcon 2763 Falcon Ute 869 Territory 1,320 Focus 1,077 Fiesta 981 Mondeo 385 Ranger 4x4 1500 (approx) Ranger 4x2 562 Whoo, 4952 locals...... Last edited by jpd80; 05-07-2010 at 11:30 PM. |
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06-07-2010, 12:13 AM | #90 | |||
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Bit sad really. They should be capable of both. Once they were. |
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