aufalcon.com Dyno Day Results And Reflections - Page 3

Casper · 06-02-2005, 10:31 AM

These are the cars in question....amazingly enough pictured together again.

**Falcon Coupe** · 06-02-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

FPVGT is no longer a member of these forums now is he welcome to any events organised by the forums.
Bloody idiots!

Laminge, are you saying FPVGT is welcome to forum events ?
He told me he recieved an email saying he was removed from the Heathcote day list.

Casper · 06-02-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Laminge, are you saying FPVGT is welcome to forum events ?
He told me he recieved an email saying he was removed from the Heathcote day list.

No, he is not welcome at AFF events.
Now, as part of AFF, I have discussed it with the admins and he is no longer going to be eligable to enter aufalcon.com events either.

Mr. CVE · 06-02-2005, 11:14 AM

I'm glad you all had a great day, was a pity about the printer, but that's Murphy's law stepping in !!
I was more prepared to dyno cars yesterday, than to play with the printer , so I apologise if I was not that concerned that you didn't walk away with your printout !!

Don't worry you will get it though.

Also thanks to Motomk for chasing up stuff for us, was greatly appreciated, even if I didn't show it. sorry

I was a bit concerned when about midday my voice started going !! a bit of coke fixed that !!

As far as i saw most people were very well behaved and I was proud to say this is an event I organised and went very smoothly.

Thank you to all ford forum.au members who assisted and participated and made the day the success it was.

The E Series v8 clash was worth it !!
just goes to show the power of the series 2 !!

If you have any suggestions or critisisms, ( be polite !!) you are more than welcome to pm me with them. At the end of the day I run these for the members so it has to be what the members want.

**Stav** · 06-02-2005, 11:19 AM

Good idea to clean the hoons up guys.We are all out to have fun and not be irresponsible.

LTDHO · 06-02-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper

No, he is not welcome at AFF events.
Now, as part of AFF, I have discussed it with the admins and he is no longer going to be eligable to enter aufalcon.com events either.

This vehicle in question. Is it the vey low AU that kept doing burnouts out the front?

Casper · 06-02-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

This vehicle in question. Is it the vey low AU that kept doing burnouts out the front?

yes, the black AU with the aftermarket taillights.

Firefox7 · 06-02-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MYTE8

Damm shane you beat me to it..
199.8rwkw not bad for a stock auto

Not bad at all mate. For an auto thats a good result. I think it's time for the hurricane exhaust and a CAI. That should bump those figures up. Btw...the CAI setup is in the technical section if you want to have a look.

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Cheers

**Falcon Coupe** · 06-02-2005, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laminge

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I have only recently become friends with FPVGT, i find him a friendly person who has a extensive knowledge about Fords, he is willing to share information about his cars and help others, and i will miss his input here.

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Now someone has their wires crossed about yesterday at Hallam Performance, FPVGT had nothing to do with the hooning, he was driving the red GT, the car in question is a Black AU XR8.
Nick.

Casper · 06-02-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Now someone has their wires crossed about yesterday at Hallam Performance, FPVGT had nothing to do with the hooning, he was driving the red GT, the car in question is a Black AU XR8.
Nick.

No, Alex was never accused of any hooning at the dyno day at all. That happened at a previous event. Only issue I have is that he is no longer a member of AFF and therefore not eligable to enter events like yeaterday.

The dyno day hooning issue is unrelated and was directed at a totally different person. If you re read the post on it there is no mention of FPVGT at all.

Laminge · 06-02-2005, 12:26 PM

Nick we where talking about the Tsunami Appeal Cruise

the 30 day ban on his account stands, and from his emails this morning so does the one on AFF, its upto him how he wants to handle it further!

Mr. CVE · 06-02-2005, 12:27 PM

On the vid in pearly's web site there is a black au xr8 at the end, I think this is the one in question ??

FRDGAL · 06-02-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

meh, dyno numbers are for fun. Only time they mean something is a before and after on the same dyno, same day, new mod.
Was a great day but I'll leave it to the 1/4 mile to do the real mod tests.

Agreed to a point. rwkw might not mean much to those that run their car's down ¼ mile and rely on ¼ mile times but to those that don't run ie: me, those rwkw figures are rely'd on and not just 'for fun'.

I rely on those figures only because I don't run my car ¼ mile but I'll have to run it ¼ mile to see how good she really is. I guess then if I'm pulling good times or close to it, I too might not care much about dyno figures.

Do I hear the Heathcote entry list calling my name? :Up_to_som

Casper · 06-02-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_Fairmont -S-

Do I hear the Heathcote entry list calling my name? :Up_to_som

Yes, you do.

And as an example, look at Cobras v's Davocols cars. Davocols has far more power on the dyno but Cobra's has a good .4 seconds lead on the 1/4 mile.

Dyno numbers dont always tell the real world performance story.

**Stav** · 06-02-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Yes, you do.

And as an example, look at Cobras v's Davocols cars. Davocols has far more power on the dyno but Cobra's has a good .4 seconds lead on the 1/4 mile.

Dyno numbers dont always tell the real world performance story.

This is why the amounts of power at each speed is more important than terminal power.A car with bigger figures doesnt always have bigger average of power .

FRDGAL · 06-02-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Well, we had the dyno day today and everyone involved was very well behaved.

After some though I have decided to post up what I saw as the only problem of the day. Someone named FTRWPN turned up, spoke to neither the organizers of the AU or E Series dyno day, revved his car then proceeded to do a sideways burnout down the entire length of the cars parked on either side of the road.

We had, for weeks, been reminding people that this is not going to be tolerated and, for all those involved, they were on the very best behavior. Its idiots like FTRWPN who, while having nothing to do with the event, turn up and pull stupid stunts like this that give us all a bad name. In front of 5 mods no less (Me, BlueAU, mincer, Thanatos and EFFalcon).

Now I have looked and he is not a member of this forum therefore the only way he could have known about the dyno day was to be told by a member (non members could not access the site to see the details off the dyno day). The only person who was seen near FTRWPN was FPRWPN (a coincidence? I don’t think so). This person IS a member of this site and was NOT part of either dyno group. Although he himself did nothing wrong and cant be blamed for the incident I am hugely disappointed in the fact that people feel the need to turn up to a structured and peaceful event and “hoon it up” just to get attention.

I will say that FTRWPN certainly did get the mods attention….but it’s not the the sort you want. Your car has been noted and, for future events of aufalcon.com, if you are there, you WILL be asked to leave.

Aufalcon.com has a clean record and a policy of no tolerance for hooning on events on public roads….. that is in stone and ANYONE who breaks this will be told to leave.

I'd like to know what his point was? Ok so we know his car goes a little sideways, well so does mine - so the point of his demonstration was what?

Sorry but I have to add. It was disrespectful to us - our mods - our members - OUR CLUB!!

Casper · 06-02-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_Fairmont -S-

I'd like to know what his point was? Ok so we know his car goes a little sideways, well so does mine - so the point of his demonstration was what?

tool factor, no more.

He was more than welcome to put it on the dyno if he asked.

RED_EL_XR8 · 06-02-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_Fairmont -S-

I'd like to know what his point was? Ok so we know his car goes a little sideways, well so does mine - so the point of his demonstration was what?

Sorry but I have to add. It was disrespectful to us - our mods - our members - OUR CLUB!!

Sideways - So do rooted Datsun 180B's on retread tyres!
All it proves is a total lack of respect for others, and proves that Police are quite in their rights giving anyone doing this shit a holiday from driving.

Mr. CVE · 06-02-2005, 01:02 PM

ah ah the old dyno figures versus the 1/4 mile times !!
what the dyno will tell you is how much power the engine is making 'at the tyres' ( through various drivetrain losses)
what the 1/4 mile time usually tells you is how much power it is transferring to the ground and how good your car is setup.
Take LTDHO's car for example 341 rw kw. Huge figure but on the 1/4 mile it will end in wheel spin. unless he goes brass clutch,slicks etc. he would prob only cut a low 12 or high 11. which doesn't show the true potential of the car. if he went slicks etc it may run mid 11's.
what the dyno shows is where you make the power and where your weak link is in the engine and tune. it doesn't account for suspension setup or wheel spin. This is why my Group A does not do 1/4 mile but the Capri does.

Casper · 06-02-2005, 01:08 PM

The dyno has its uses for sure. Most important to me is the A/F ratio and spotting any nasty dips in the curve...always a source of knowledge for finding that nagging issue in a car.

In the end though my opinion is its a road car (mine is anyhow) and although power is needed and wanted, it has to all work together to get it too the road. To do this it needs the whole car to work right.
Without a dyno I couldnt do this as it is the tool to get the power right....but it is only one tool for me. I'm actully pretty happy with my dyno results yesterday. I think my car has some work to do and I know what that is now but the A/F was perfect and the curve was straight and strong. Something only a dyno could show me for sure. But for me, the 1/4 is the biggest test.

XA-Coupe · 06-02-2005, 01:16 PM

That's why Motomk's SV8 runs low 13s are cars with much more Rwkw ... don't !
It's all good fun and entertainment this dyno stuff .. unless it's for tuning.

FRDGAL · 06-02-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Yes, you do.

And as an example, look at Cobras v's Davocols cars. Davocols has far more power on the dyno but Cobra's has a good .4 seconds lead on the 1/4 mile.

Dyno numbers dont always tell the real world performance story.

This is why I'm thinking that it's best I get it down the mile rather than rely on the dyno figures which is what I've been doing. You have to allow me to sook a little - I have emotions damm it :P

When's the next one? October was it? Will it be combined again?

Casper · 06-02-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_Fairmont -S-

This is why I'm thinking that it's best I get it down the mile rather than rely on the dyno figures which is what I've been doing. You have to allow me to sook a little - I have emotions damm it :P

When's the next one? October was it? Will it be combined again?

Just sign up for the April 9th one Krissy. Its going to be great fun and will give you a bit more real world info on the car.

JC · 06-02-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

... it is amusing when all the V8 guys are happy to beat my HAD on the dyno...so you should too

: Now for the track, thats a different story.

Casper, when your car is second from the bottom of the list of V8s, the ONLY realistic target is to make sure you are in front of as many HADs as possible. As for 1/4 mile - I will be getting a 0-400m time ASAP. That may be a while away yet, as there is no drag strip in Canberra. I still want to do WSID in march.

LTDHO · 06-02-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AU_Fairmont -S-

This is why I'm thinking that it's best I get it down the mile rather than rely on the dyno figures which is what I've been doing. You have to allow me to sook a little - I have emotions damm it :P

The mile? What do you need the othe 3/4 mile for?

Casper · 06-02-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

The mile? What do you need the othe 3/4 mile for?

stopping!!

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CSV_LS1 · 06-02-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

and not parked on the freeway?

Yeah had to stop a few times. A vacum hose has come loose and the car was not very nice to drive, still haven't found where it goes

: And took a few power naps as i was falling asleep on the freeway

sleep:

LG · 06-02-2005, 03:16 PM

It was a good day. I was quite happy with 113 kw, with only cat-back exhaust & minor intake mods. I definately need to get it tuned, which I'll do before Heathcote, along with new plugs and leads & maybe a new diff.

Some seriously nice cars.

There was no need for stupid shit, also one slip up, and 4 cars (worth a lot of money) coulda been rootad.

Here is a picture of the one, and his red friend, which didn't do any hooning but was with him.

http://www.aufalcon.com/forsale/benny1.JPG

FRDGAL · 06-02-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Casper

stopping!!

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Listen here you two

EFFalcon · 06-02-2005, 05:32 PM

i got loads of pics...
was a shame to see pretty much all the AU guys left before the eseries guys got on the dyno, but i'm sure you all had good excuses ;)

www.deleted link/pics/cruises/dynoday2/

There is pics of the said hoon car also :P