My Girlfriends driving arghhh

[nat_daly]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

This should be the law.
Very bloody loudly.

If you don’t think that you’re up to it, PM me her phone number and I’ll tell her. Although, I will not be held responsible for her perforated eardrum.

haha
yeah my missus used to do it.
kept telling her not to, kept doing it, so every time we drove i'd just sit in front of her next to another car and slow down, she'd get so ****ed off, and every time without a doubt she'd go mental. all i had to reply was now you know how everyone else feels that sits behind you in the right lane.

+1 for ramming ppl that do it off the road.

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

This is one of my pet hates, maybe she will get booked and save you the trouble.

I'll be your echo.

[Angry Beaver]

Ok I am female and to be honest if she cannot handle being told she is in the wrong then she needs to pull her head out of where ever it is hiding. Seriously, its wrong and I had the same problem today with a little blue car and green p plates and four females coming back from geelong. Do you think she would move. No she wouldn't. Thats even after A huge Kia sat on her bum. So I went around her and more people did the same thing and she still did not get over. Ignorant is the word for it.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by SB076

More annoying is when you follow someone doing 80'ks in a 110 zone and you have no opportunity to pass and then you see an overtaking lane ahead and all of a sudden they are doing 120 :

Dad?

It's a pet hate of mine also, but everytime I go and visit them the first words out of his mouth will be exactly the above. He lives down south and overtaking lanes are few and far between and very short. I've experienced it on numerous occassions and always wished they pulled over at a rest stop or servo I had just stopped at as I wouldn't hesistate to ask why they do it.

My theory is that they just don't like being overtaken... and if you're going to do ~80 in a 100 zone, it's going to be a common occurance. Thankfully I usually drive something that can go from 80 - 100 much quicker than most other cars on the road. :

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by XABEBAGT

I cop this one every day on the highway. It frustrates the hell out of me. I go past them regardless of what speed they increase to. This will probably cost me a ticket one day but if you don't go past you will soon be doing 80 again. Strange thing is that once you get past them they slow down to 80 again. :
Cheers
Keith

IMO, you've comitted the lesser of the two evils. I would pretty much do the same in a similar situation. A short squirt on overtake will result in a safer trip than being stuck behind possibly the most frustrating of all drivers on the road. I've been in situations where the guy behind me while I've been behind one of these drivers is right up my clacka due to frustration.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Directly above your post (as quoted above), is another quoting from the NSW's driver training book on the subject.

The keep-left 'generally' and when on a 'multi-lane road' rules are harmonised nationally.

...or otherwise sign posted. There's a couple of 80k roads in Sydney that are sign posted keep left unless overtaking (and are also largely ignored). Southern Cross Drive being the one I travel on the most.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Point out the signs on the side of the road, explain that it applies to a road where any road speed signed at 80kph or higher it is the law to keep left.

*over* 80. There's no requirement to keep left unless overtaking on an 80kph road unless signposted to keep left.

[RepSpec]

i cant believe how many people took interest in this thread and that how many after i posted up about how she is not angry at all or aggressive still told me to ditch her... i think many people on here have women issues :voldar02:


thanks for all the reasonable posts guys mite try the dodgy story idea...hadnt thought of that.

[JG66ME]

PM her phone number to us all and we will all send her a text telling her how we feel on this subject.

[irlewy86]

This thread is pointless.

You broke Man Law 27.

Its ok for you to drive her car, but it is never all right for her to drive yours.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by XG-PanelvanMan

i cant believe how many people took interest in this thread and that how many after i posted up about how she is not angry at all or aggressive still told me to ditch her... i think many people on here have women issues :voldar02:


thanks for all the reasonable posts guys mite try the dodgy story idea...hadnt thought of that.

Speaking as a man with 0 woman issues : I can't understand why it wouldn't be a simple, 'keep left sweetheart' without having to create a thread on a forum asking for help..?!

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by da_ilks

I'm well aware the law is keep left in VIC, however, if I'm not holding up traffic (and I'm quick to change lanes if someone wants to go past, no problems there) and avoiding constant lane changes I don't see how my driving behaviour is somehow illegal. Considering how poor some drivers are I'd rather not frighten them by attempting to change lanes!

You originally wrote at Post 44;-

Originally Posted by da_ilks
Meh, I always sit in the right hand lane, overtaking or not. But that's because I'm always on 110km/h, and it saves constant lane changes.

It just comes across - that if the middle-lane is clear, or left lane, that you routinely sit in the right lane...... That is why I said 'sure you do' initially as I doubted you. . . . . . I accept though that some people, in fits of pathological behaviour, do deliberately 'sit right' on otherwise empty two or three-laned freeways.

Then at the top quote, belonging to you, - and this is how I read it - that you 'keep right' - at the speed-limit, and will only move into the middle-lane or left lane WHEN someome comes up on your tail!?

Do you then move back into the right-lane once they have passed you, and perhaps themselves have actually pulled back into the middle or left lane??


I suggested that owing low quality driving, that speed-limits should reduce, devils advocate stuff. Da-ilks then responded

God I hope not - they are too low as is. Maybe if driving standards were better in this country we'd actually be trusted to travel at speeds our cars and roads can handle.

Then again, pigs might fly as well.

It starts with *you*. The reality is that Victorians are *not* taught how to correctly use three-laned freeways. Simply stating 'keep-left' in Victoria's various junky driver manuals doesn't cut it. It needs to be spelt out, a la NSW.

I routinely keep-left on freeway class roads, always managed to do this without weaving in and out of traffic, and without holding people up. Its hardly difficult. I never sit-right routinely, ever.

What I see in Melbourne, gives good reason why that states maximum speed-limit should be set at 90km/h! :-)

Can I hear a Hallelujah?

[Bad Girl]

tell her she is a sh!t driver
i get it all the time for my huddy thats because i have the car side ways down the road or im going 125 km on the highway man up
go fords go : :

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Bad Girl

tell her she is a driver
i get it all the time for my huddy thats because i have the car side ways down the road or im going 125 km on the highway man up
go fords go

say again ?

[pauljh74]

On a 3 lane motorway, in moderate traffic I'll usually pick the middle lane. Why? Because there are a large number of people who are incapable of merging onto freeways! When a few cars hit the on-ramp at once, many times cars in front have BRAKED on the on-ramp before reaching the freeway, creating a larger speed difference to cars already on the freeway. Typically what happens is a driver in front reaches about 70 or 80, levels out, merges - creating havoc in the process - and then speeds up. They're driving modern 6 cylinder cars too. I've had one of my mechanic's POS mid 80's 4 cylinder loan cars (Corona for example, clapped out auto too) at or near the speed of traffic by the merge point without killing it, so a 5 year old Camry (4 or 6cyl) can do it easy.
If you sit in the left lane, you have to deal with all these cretins. But the right lane - if you're in it and other cars are behind you and you can move left, then do it.

On the new Eastlink, everyone is paranoid about getting caught speeding, so generally it flows well at or just under 100km/h, but I am seeing people sitting in the right lane at 90km/h and not moving over when they can and should, the result being some of the following cars giving the car in front a full rear view mirror. It's a motorway class road, in typical conditions there's no reason to go under 95km/h provided there's enough space to the car in front. If you can only cope with 80km/h, when 99% of other drivers do 95+ safely, then take the other arterials which are usually 80km/h and stop holding everyone else up.

[JPDyno]

Originally Posted by bob^

If you can't even tell her to not drive out of the right lane without getting your head bitten off, time to find a new girlfriend.

/thread

[RepSpec]

well heres an update people

i spoke to the missus last nite about her driving and she said that it was a habit of hers to drive in the right lane. i told her how much it was a pet hate of mine, and she said she would work on better driving


cheers
brendan

[Plugg3r]

Ok I live in Darwin so the highway is alot more free'd up, so I dont know if this could be a problem for you guys.

If you're in the right hand lane and doing say 105-110km/h in a 100 zone and passing the guys in the left hand lane, but at the sametime have a car up your bumb are you alright where you're or SHOULD you get over into the left let him pass then get back into the right.

In this case I sit in the right as I feel i'm passing people and doing over the speed limit so I feel i'm in the right in this case.

[bodes-sh]

Originally Posted by Plugg3r

Ok I live in Darwin so the highway is alot more free'd up, so I dont know if this could be a problem for you guys.

If you're in the right hand lane and doing say 105-110km/h in a 100 zone and passing the guys in the left hand lane, but at the sametime have a car up your bumb are you alright where you're or SHOULD you get over into the left let him pass then get back into the right.

In this case I sit in the right as I feel i'm passing people and doing over the speed limit so I feel i'm in the right in this case.

personally, if this happens to me, i move over when there is enough room and let them past. i'm not one to stop people if they feel the need to get a speeding ticket lol

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by Plugg3r

Ok I live in Darwin so the highway is alot more free'd up, so I dont know if this could be a problem for you guys.

If you're in the right hand lane and doing say 105-110km/h in a 100 zone and passing the guys in the left hand lane, but at the sametime have a car up your bumb are you alright where you're or SHOULD you get over into the left let him pass then get back into the right.

In this case I sit in the right as I feel i'm passing people and doing over the speed limit so I feel i'm in the right in this case.

You are supposed to pull over. Its not your job to enforce the law for others, just abide by it yourself.

[Plugg3r]

Yep yep fair enough, I normally move but when I see cars in the left lane about 50m up and im catching them at the time I normally stay in the right lane and then pass them.

[dave289]

Originally Posted by Plugg3r

Ok I live in Darwin so the highway is alot more free'd up, so I dont know if this could be a problem for you guys.

If you're in the right hand lane and doing say 105-110km/h in a 100 zone and passing the guys in the left hand lane, but at the sametime have a car up your bumb are you alright where you're or SHOULD you get over into the left let him pass then get back into the right.

In this case I sit in the right as I feel i'm passing people and doing over the speed limit so I feel i'm in the right in this case.

You would think a forum member would have more common sense.The fact you have to ask that question is a worry.So its alright for you to go 10 kay over but when someone wants to go 10 kay over you they are in the wrong and you think you are in the right.No wonder people get frustrated on the road when they have to deal with this mentality.

[dave289]

Originally Posted by Plugg3r

Yep yep fair enough, I normally move but when I see cars in the left lane about 50m up and im catching them at the time I normally stay in the right lane and then pass them.

This one is okay by me plugga as long as you are not holding up anyone behind you, because at 50 meters at speed you would pull out to overtake a slower truck so in theory you are on the overtake.

[azaxr8]

contradict yourself some more dave? calm down buddy.

[dave289]

Originally Posted by azaxr8

contradict yourself some more dave? calm down buddy.

sorry but this stuff ****us me off and thought i may have been a bit harsh.what do you do, pull out from behind a truck at the last second not nowing if he is about to overtake an even slower truck.not to contradicting is it aza.

[da_ilks]

Originally Posted by Keepleft

You originally wrote at Post 44;-

It just comes across - that if the middle-lane is clear, or left lane, that you routinely sit in the right lane...... That is why I said 'sure you do' initially as I doubted you. . . . . . I accept though that some people, in fits of pathological behaviour, do deliberately 'sit right' on otherwise empty two or three-laned freeways.

Then at the top quote, belonging to you, - and this is how I read it - that you 'keep right' - at the speed-limit, and will only move into the middle-lane or left lane WHEN someome comes up on your tail!?

Haha at suggesting I'm pathological. So without any evidence of the time I drove on the freeways, traffic conditions etc, you can make a clear cut decision if I'm driving correctly?

The majority of freeways in Victoria are speed limited to 100km/h, so if I am travelling at 110km/h (10km/h over the speed limit) it goes without saying that I'm going quicker then the majority of traffic. Even if I was doing 100km/h, I'd still be quicker then the majority of traffic because the states fasination with speed cameras means the majority of drivers are too scared to do the limit just in case they are 2km/h over and will comfortably sit 5-10km/h under.

Originally Posted by Keepleft

Do you then move back into the right-lane once they have passed you, and perhaps themselves have actually pulled back into the middle or left lane??

Yes, I do move back over, because I'm still going faster then the majority of traffic in the left hand lanes, just not as quick as the people who wanted to get past.

Originally Posted by Keepleft

I suggested that owing low quality driving, that speed-limits should reduce, devils advocate stuff. Da-ilks then responded
It starts with *you*. The reality is that Victorians are *not* taught how to correctly use three-laned freeways. Simply stating 'keep-left' in Victoria's various junky driver manuals doesn't cut it. It needs to be spelt out, a la NSW.

Do you normally cast judgement on peoples driving abilities without actually seeing them drive? If so, how come you haven't been nominated to head up a national taskforce on this countries poor driving standards? Clearly your powers are wasted on this forum.

Originally Posted by Keepleft

I routinely keep-left on freeway class roads, always managed to do this without weaving in and out of traffic, and without holding people up. Its hardly difficult. I never sit-right routinely, ever.

What I see in Melbourne, gives good reason why that states maximum speed-limit should be set at 90km/h! :-)

'What I see' and 'what I've expieranced' are 2 completely different things and I don't think you should be giving recommendations if you haven't actually driven on our roads for any length of time.

[Plugg3r]

Originally Posted by dave289

This one is okay by me plugga as long as you are not holding up anyone behind you, because at 50 meters at speed you would pull out to overtake a slower truck so in theory you are on the overtake.

Wow I got scared there for a second lol :P

Nah I dont intentionally want to anger people I was meaning like if I was in the right hand lane and was over taking should I really pull back into the left even if im catching up to another group of cars ahead to overtake which are about 50m up from me.

Remember I'm driving a Diesel HiLux at this time so catching the speed is a hard job so once on a roll you wanna stay on the roll

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by XG-PanelvanMan

hey all i just got back from a nice weekend away to angelsea with my girlfriend and she drove, because my car had no stereo and she warned me about the speedbumps in the caravan park.

anyway, while driving along the geelong freeway friday nite i noticed that we were in the right hand lane for a rather long time. subsequently she got highbeams from the car behind and eventually moved over. once the car passed she moved back into the right lane when the other lanes were free of cars. she got highbeamed another 2 times for memory on the way to geelong.

then on the way back today it happened again but only once.

i love her to bits but how do i tell her to not drive in the right lane when she is not overtaking anyone without starting WW3 or should i just ignore it and let it slide.


help please guys

cheers
brendan

Talk to her.

Right lane huggers imo are the worst thing on the road (within reason), and there's so many of them.

[Keepleft]

Originally Posted by da_ilks

Haha at suggesting I'm pathological. So without any evidence of the time I drove on the freeways, traffic conditions etc, you can make a clear cut decision if I'm driving correctly?

I was not calling you pathological, that is your determination. I am referencing the type of driver, again, that routinely sit-right WHEN the left lane/s are clear.

These are the folk who will, in NSW be fined up to $330 and who gain three demerits for doing so right now. Have my way and the fine level would jump to $500-600 range. We are too soft.

The majority of freeways in Victoria are speed limited to 100km/h, so if I am travelling at 110km/h (10km/h over the speed limit) it goes without saying that I'm going quicker then the majority of traffic. Even if I was doing 100km/h, I'd still be quicker then the majority of traffic because the states fasination with speed cameras means the majority of drivers are too scared to do the limit just in case they are 2km/h over and will comfortably sit 5-10km/h under.

Certainly not going to argue with the Victorian camera system, its a 99% revenue raising excersize with 'predicted income'. I tend to avoid (or resist) dealings with the Peoples Republic Of Victoria when it comes to road safety matters here in NSW.

The speed-limit is irrelevant as to the legal requirement, - beyond the legislated start-point. If I am in Hungary and at 150km/h, I shall not 'routinely' be in the right-lane (left in EU-Continent). The NSW driver training text quoted earlier is used in Germany/France/GB/China etc and required so by the UN Road Traffic Conventions for motorway application.

We don't mean for folk to weave in and out of traffic. I also recall during ARR delvelopment that we came close to not having a keep-left requirement whatsoever. (As a way of controlling speed).

Yes, I do move back over, because I'm still going faster then the majority of traffic in the left hand lanes, just not as quick as the people who wanted to get past.

Bargain!

Do you normally cast judgement on peoples driving abilities without actually seeing them drive?

No, but general observations can be made easily enough.

If so, how come you haven't been nominated to head up a national taskforce on this countries poor driving standards?

Per above, not so.

I have 'closely followed' the ongoing development of "The National Driver Training Scheme", you see this as the ongoing harmonisation, nationally, of the 'graduated driver licensing system' L, P1, P2. This kicked off, officially December 15, 2004, its emphasis is on the defensive driver components.

Been involved in the ARR development process since Keating kicked it off in 93'.

And NSW state stuff.

Clearly your powers are wasted on this forum.

Powers?? I don't consider this forum (or any number of political, roads and transport forums where I am a member) to be a waste, and am only here when I have the time, like everyone I guess. Water is wet.

Being a NSW political fella, my role, if you like, is to 'resist' the Victorian agenda in-this-subject-field.

The States have *real* power. The way it shall remain.

Tis all you need to know, bout me . . .

'What I see' and 'what I've expieranced' are 2 completely different things and I don't think you should be giving recommendations if you haven't actually driven on our roads for any length of time.

Funny, I could have sworn I was in VIC the other day. I have family in Melb....

I'll be back down in a few weeks, again . .

I'll say it; Victoria 'deserves' a 90km/h maximum:-)))

It'd vote for it too, guaranteed....