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Old 17-07-2009, 09:09 AM   #61
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They generally move if you keep driving towards them.
I have learnt with merging, it is really a bluffing game. Drivers are now so inconsiderate that they won't give people room to merge.
I have heard it's law somewhere overseas (England maybe?) that you have to give way to merging traffic on freeways. Can anyone confirm that?
When im approaching a merging lane on ramp on a freeway i generally, when clear or safe, just move into the right lane to give them space to merge safely if i think there will be an "overlap"... as long as the merging traffic is trying to synchronize with the flow of the traffic speed wise its just common courtesy..



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Old 17-07-2009, 09:30 AM   #62
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Old 17-07-2009, 10:06 AM   #63
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its just common courtesy..
you do realise that driving is a 'right' these days don't you!

how dare people hold me up or try to get in 'my' space. i was here first. my destination is more important than yours etc.
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Old 17-07-2009, 11:04 AM   #64
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My hate is when merging into one lane, drivers who dont do the ' zipper " like manouvre, instead they just wanna be ahead of you.
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Old 17-07-2009, 11:17 AM   #65
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Another hate of mine.


I do not understand since Eastlink has been built, all drivers on the Frankston freeway can barely seem to reach the speed of 80km.

Urgh, I agree wholeheartedly!! I got boxed in the other night on Frankston Fwy by two cars sitting on just over 60km all the way between Cranbourne Rd and Frankston Dandy Rd exit, WTF people please it's a freeway, if you're not comfortable with the speeds, then don't use it!!
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Old 17-07-2009, 11:48 AM   #66
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My hate is when merging into one lane, drivers who dont do the ' zipper " like manouvre, instead they just wanna be ahead of you.
Yeah, theres a select few out there who just wont play like the rest of us. :

I really hate the ones that think the right lane has right of way over the left lane at a merge (that used to be the rule back about 10 years ago, but it changed). They sit half a length beside you and wont drop back when you indicate and start moving right. Sometimes they even try to speed up and try to block you. I just keep on moving over nice and easy, they soon learn that they have to either drop back or crash into you, theres nothing else you can do when the left lanes all but ended and theres nowhere else to go. :ticking:
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Old 17-07-2009, 11:59 AM   #67
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when idiots notice a cop car/camera van/fixed camera, they slow to 20kph under the limit IN CASE they get booked... i mean ffs there is a speed limit for a reason.
Ha ha, that’s me! I know I should not do it but I just can't help it and it actually annoys me as well!

Except for one I copped last year, this method has kept me in the clear for nearly ten years though. _2:
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Old 17-07-2009, 12:08 PM   #68
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Not keep left unless overtaking is also an offence. You sound like one of the self righteous right lane hogs.

I never have trouble with people tailgating, but i have the courtesy to move over when the left lane is clear and someone faster comes up behind me.
Who says Im talking about a 2 lane road. Yeah Im self righteous travel in the right hand lane of a single lane road :
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You must be kidding. Thats when you pray for red traffic lights.. :
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People who tailgate on dual lane highways, when a P plater is in the left lane doing the maximum allowed speed (80 KM/H), and sitting on my *** when the right lane is empty, and the limit is 110km/h!
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Old 17-07-2009, 01:00 PM   #73
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People who tailgate on dual lane highways, when a P plater is in the left lane doing the maximum allowed speed (80 KM/H), and sitting on my *** when the right lane is empty, and the limit is 110km/h!
Oh man, I couldnt agree more. The thing that annoys me is the first car in the line is right up my trumpet, yet he wont overtake even on those completely flat straights with no other car in sight, because he doesnt overtake and wont leave a gap in front of him and behind me, noone else can either without doing very high speeds. Ive also seen someone overtake me with an oncoming car about 400m away, he started about 50m before the overtaking lane started.......
edit: When I drive to Launny from Hobart most Friday nights and someone is tailgating me and their lights are bothering me, I turn the mirrors flat, they back off very quickly. Try it.
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Old 17-07-2009, 01:02 PM   #74
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I usually do this also. I'd rather let them by then have them sitting close to my rear. That's a stack just waiting to happen. It'd be hard proving that they're in the wrong too! Almost impossible I'd say.
In a rear-ender, the person in the tailing vehicle is automatically considered to be in the wrong.

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#1. People who think they're on the Nurburgring, swinging wide to take a corner, coming right in to the kerb, then swinging out wide again as they exit the corner. That's not how you make a turn in traffic jackass. You pull over to the god damn side and then just turn. It's not a big show. If you want to drive like Brockie then drive into a tree. You can even use the bike lane when you make your turn, did you know that? It's written in the road bloody rules.

#2. Fartshowers who don't use the bike lane when they're making a turn, instead preferring to sit in the middle of the traffic lane while they wait for right of way, banking up traffic behind them.

#3. Arsewipes who don't have the mental acuity to use the indicators on roundabouts. Here's how it works you bumbling jackanapes: you put your right yellow flashy light on when you want to remain on the roundabout, and your left flashy yellow light when you want to leave the roundabout. Right - remaining. Left - leaving. Does that make it easier to keep in your dented misshapen cranium? You ignorant prat.

#4. The worthless ****-whistles who can't work out how to use their vehicle's lighting:

#4a. Driving with parking lights on in the rain or fog or darkness: gee those 15-watt globes make it way easier to see your vehicle through the pouring rain! If you had a bulb blow out you could probably replace it with the one out of your sissyboy son's Go Diego Go nightlight. Here's a clue for you, jackass: parking lights are there to keep your incompetent self from bouncing off the wall when you're shoehorning your car into a space it won't fit, not for making you stand out in adverse weather or the dark.

#4b. Incorrect use of high beams. Did you know, if you can see another person's headlights or tail lights, then they are within range of your vehicle mounted supernovas? It's true! So if you can see another vehicle's headlights or tail lights, remember, DIP YOUR GOD DAMN LIGHTS. I don't see how people can "forget" that they have them on either. Is the huge ocean of ultra-white light stretching out a kilometre in front of you too subtle? Is the bright blue high beam light right in the centre of your dash not good enough? Have you had some sort of head injury in the past?

#4c. Those tacky Xenon headlights that the $50-Ripcurl-thong-wearing flatbrim brigade love so much. 75% more brightness equals 75% more safety! Get rooted. I can't see anything when one of these clowns is shining his blowhard lights in my face. Tell me about your safety when you've got a crossflow through your skull.

#4d. The infamous driving/fog/spot lights. This one is a double-whammy, which is great news if you like being a gigantic douche! Not only do you look like a tossbag by having them on 24/7, they are bright enough to make everybody stop and look and whisper to each other about just how big of a failure you are. Bonus!

#4e. Knee-slapping rednecks with a single spotlight used as their reversing lamp on their flogged-out shitheap pig-shooting banger. Think for a second Cletus, what do you think is going to happen when you grind it into reverse and the person behind you cops a faceful of spotlight? You're going to lose your last three teeth to their tyre iron, that's what's going to happen. Get rid of the CAT mudflaps, the ridiculous "grunter hunter" sticker, and put that jacked-up deathtrap through a safety inspection. By the way, I wipe my **** with the Eureka flag; what do you think of that you guffawing bumpkin.

#5. Cyclists. This one is good because everybody hates those leotard-wearing fruits, even motorcyclists (I myself have no problems with motorcyclists). How can these people dress up in a bodysuit with poofy wraparound sunglasses and an ultra-lightweight ultra-lame helmet and think they're going to get away with it? Okay, cyclists are legally allowed to ride in traffic and they are to be treated the same as any other road vehicle, I get that now. But listen stringbean, you pick whether you want to be a pedestrian or a vehicle, you don't get to be both. You don't get to jump the lights and turn in front of vehicles (or pedestrians for that matter) and change lanes without indicating and then give me the forks when I lay on the horn. Don't you realise that those 15 kilos of hilariously overpriced carbon you get around on is no match for the front end of a two-ton Falcon? I will give you an entire lane's space and I'm not going to deliberately run you over or anything, but your ignorance and disregard for everyone's safety is either going to leave you with a fist-shaped hole in your head or as a tangled mess in someone's front suspension. And go and grow some facial hair you skippy poof, it's not going to make you any less aerodynamic.



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Old 17-07-2009, 01:05 PM   #75
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people who take forever to get off the line at a green light when you're in peak hour traffic its ohhh what does green mean again??

the main thing i cant handle is learners whose parents/instructors/teachers whatever you like... put them on a single lane highway or even the M5 and they cant handle a car at 80km yet .. im happy to sit behind a learner whose doing 80km thats their speed limit im not going to tailgait them ill sit there but when they do 60km or less (yep ive had 50km on the M5 and being a learner at the time no one would me out into the right lane to get away...even the highway patrol didnt do anything) i cant handle it and its not the kids fault its the parent/instructor etc you dont put a learner on a highway or even an 80km road til they can handle traffic and speed is this not common sense am i going crazy??
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Old 17-07-2009, 01:20 PM   #76
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People who can't keep a constant speed.

It's a 110 zone and you're doing 110, they are doing around 100, and as you are passing them they speed up.

Another one is the opposite of that I guess. 110 zone again, I'm doing 110, they are doing around 120 passing you, move in front of you then drop back to 105.
Hate that had a woman do it to me 3 times last week when I passed her the 4th time I pulled 3rd and a big gap and got back in the left lane and slowed back to 115 reset the cruise and chilled. mind you it was at 11.00 am on a weekday on the way to karuah with only about 5 cars on the road.

Another hate is when there is a large line of traffic at the lights and some tool decides to make a left, left gutter lane and race accross on green one set of lights near home this happens regularly but I love it if I am front row l/h/s just keep the b pillar lined up and watch 4 the brake test as they run out of road. :thebirds:
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A$swipes going only 90kph who slow down every time the mearest hint of a bend is approached even though they're in the car and I'm bearing down on them in 20tonnes of truck, then anytime there is a bit of clear road where I could get past them they speed up to oh, 95kph effectively making sure I can't pass cos I hit the limiter at 100kph and don't have the speed or acceleration to pass them safely. Same said as$swipes generally also slow down going down hill just when I need the extra speed to keep up my momentum to get up the other side thus forcing me to brake just when I need to be hard on the throttle, then I have to downshift. :

Cowboys in other trucks tailgating me to try and push me along, especially going through winding roads where there's double whites and no safe place to get out of the way. HELLO YA MORON, I'M SPEED LIMITED TO 100 (which I'm doing) AND SHOWING ME YOUR FRONT WHEEL AND HEADLIGHT EVERY 5 SECONDS AIN'T GUNNA MAKE ME GO ANY FASTER. These cowboys never answer a UHF call so they've either not got it turned on or they're just plain ignoring you. I'm generally very courtious to other truck drivers and get out of the way of someone clearly in a hurry ASAP, cos I know time is money, but GEEZ!!

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.........and while I'm at it, peanuts in 4x4s that don't adjust their headlights, no scratch that, ALL the ignorant tossers who don't adjust their headlights correctly, it only takes a few seconds ya git. If that cut off line of light is above the boot line of the car in front of you then ya lights need adjusting ya plonker, YOU'RE DAZZLING ONCOMING TRAFFIC IDIOT!!


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Pretty simple, calm down and realise that not everything will be perfect when you drive. Getting worked up and doing stupid things will not make you any better then the rest of the drivers.

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Another one I hate is people that creep at traffic lights like it will make them change faster. If you look to your right you can probably see the green light for the other direction traffic you toss-pot.

And people who seem to purposely stop beyond the white line at an intersection, like they are more important or something.
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Why should I pull over? I'm doing the speed limit or a touch over and they still tailgate, em I say, I just get off the throttle and slow down or just give a quick brake twitch. You sound like someone who tailgates, using reverse psychology.
And that there is the typical attitude of the Australian driver. The attitude you should adopt is who cares if you're doing the speed limit or doing 60km/h over the speed limit, if there's someone behind you wanting to go past - let them! It's not your problem, they'll get done for speeding at some point, and you're putting yourself out of danger. It's more dangerous to stay in their path creating a difference in speeds - which is how accidents happen!

I know it's been said before, but if Australian drivers understood the mentality of a European driver - driving in this country would be more pleasant and safer. And the authorities would not put ridiculous speed limits and penalties to 'improve road safety'.
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And that there is the typical attitude of the Australian driver. The attitude you should adopt is who cares if you're doing the speed limit or doing 60km/h over the speed limit, if there's someone behind you wanting to go past - let them! It's not your problem, they'll get done for speeding at some point, and you're putting yourself out of danger. It's more dangerous to stay in their path creating a difference in speeds - which is how accidents happen!

I know it's been said before, but if Australian drivers understood the mentality of a European driver - driving in this country would be more pleasant and safer. And the authorities would not put ridiculous speed limits and penalties to 'improve road safety'.
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If you are aware of your environment while driving (and you SHOULD be) you will notice a car approaching you from behind and will notice that they are travelling at a faster speed than you. You do NOT know their circumstances for travelling quicker than you so, if it's safe to do so, pull over and let them past.

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Who says Im talking about a 2 lane road. Yeah Im self righteous travel in the right hand lane of a single lane road :

You said why should you give way, that implies duel lanes unless you consider driving on the grass giving way.


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Fair enough point proven guys that is it ok to tailgate someone.

On the other hand if EVERYONE followed the road rules properly like they were taught when we got our licenses, we wouldnt have issues on the road.
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Being cut-off is just downright rude/stupid/uncurteous. Of course, this happens almost every time I hit the main highway. Today's case included a Toymota Crammy just sitting there, catching up, then slowing down repeatedly until I decided to slow down well under the speed limit, while the driver's son (presumably) just stared like the moron he was, with a grimace expression as they passed. Had to turn off later as a result, but could have done without the grief/agony (like all other times).

Highbeams in cluttered traffic down the same highway. Becomes a real eye-sore after minutes of it. Flicking the rear-view mirror doesn't help too much in some instances, either. A large percent of the population must need glasses/contacts, as I can see the road fine at night with low beams.
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More hates:

Hyundais with those bright rear foglights seemingly without switches, in clear conditions.

Drivers who jump the traffic queues by jumping into the left turn lane, move up a few hundred metres then hold up traffic as they try to get back into the queue. Had one of these again tonight, preventing me from continuing turning left onto the Bolte Bridge. But I can see why people wont let him in again after they waited patiently in the queue.

Seemingly courteous drivers who let these queue jumpers back in front of them, not realising that is the precise reason why further back the lane has stopped.

Four WD's pulling up next to me at an intersection, then moving forward of me so I can't see a thing anymore.

I dont worry much anymore about drivers who don't indicate when they change lanes. The vast majority of drivers only indicate as they change lanes anyway, which is useless. I can tell when cars are about to change lanes by the way they accelerate, and the movement their car makes when preparing to do a lane change. Then I shake my head when further up these same drivers are waiting in a turning lane, its obvious where they are going, but they have their indicators on!!!
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Fair enough point proven guys that is it ok to tailgate someone.

On the other hand if EVERYONE followed the road rules properly like they were taught when we got our licenses, we wouldnt have issues on the road.
This tailgating/road hogging thing is very grey,

If you are driving along and you catch up to someone who is slower than you and there is no way you can get past e.g. double lines then you should just behave and wait until you can.

If on the other hand the road is single lane (no white line at all) or 4 lane and the vehicle in front is blocking you for whatever reason, often Igottabeinfrontitis, Iamthedeciderofhowfastissafeitis or the worst Iamdoingthespeedlimitandsavingtheworldbyblockingot hertrafficbecauseIamasuperheroitis then the vehicle in front is morally wrong and should pull over.

Tailgating is dangerous but being an ignorant bastard is even more dangerous.

The ones who really annoy me are the dropkicks who, when I am driving along on autopilot at 110 come zooming up behind me and after I let them past slow down so I catch them up and then as I roll past they take off again. Gotta be in front.....
Or my second favorite, the dropkicks who do 90 until the overtaking lane and then zoom up to 110 to make it difficult to pass and then slow down again.
Actually this is also a favorite of two of my known associates who tag team during school holidays, one on overtaking lanes and the other a few km down the road. They target not only high speed but "traffic hazards" who end up with a "due care" ticket. (Who says they are all bad)
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Old 17-07-2009, 06:12 PM   #89
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"If you are aware of your environment while driving (and you SHOULD be) you will notice a car approaching you from behind and will notice that they are travelling at a faster speed than you. You do NOT know their circumstances for travelling quicker than you so, if it's safe to do so, pull over and let them past.

You eliminate road rage, you keep the speedster happy and you no longer have the need to concentrate on your rear view mirror. Win win for all !!!

Too easy !!!"




So what happens when you pull over and let them go about their speedy way and they go on to cause an accident because they think everyone will get out of their road.I usually give the breaks a few small taps(not so hard that they come crashing through your rear window)but just to show them i know how close they are,also you can flick your lights on to park then off and people think its you putting on your brakes.
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I dont really have any hates what I used to find annoying is youngfellas in their riced up cars who would try to race you at the lights I always take off quicker when beside these guys so I dont have to hear their doof doof music and look at them with their baseball hats on back to front.Once I hit the speed limit I back off they do a flyby and I dont have to acknowledge their existence any more.
Another thing that frightens me is driving past lavarack barracks when their are lots of soldiers in town there must be 1 in 100 who thinks they are a race car driver most people drive to conditions and realise speeding isnt going to get you there faster saw 3 accidents in 5 consecutive weeks last year in the same 200 metre section of road coming up to a roundabout.
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