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05-05-2010, 04:55 PM | #61 | ||
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It would be good for Ford to metion their 4litre as the 'only Australian designed & built six too', i've noticed that Average Joe thinks this is American too, ha.
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05-05-2010, 05:07 PM | #62 | |||
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Ouch ! Sounds like dealers "playing the game", I bet you can't get a drive of a demo at many dealers because they 'don't have one'. But I bet they registered a few and sold them straight away ! |
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05-05-2010, 05:14 PM | #63 | ||
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I'm really amazed at the number of "demos" listed on carsales... I did a search of sedans only with 50kms & under. There is 467 Falcons vs 135 Commodore listed. Didn't look at anything over 50km, but that is alot of car that really should not be classed as "sold".
Next time I want a new Falcon I might look at this in more detail as there is big savings... |
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05-05-2010, 06:22 PM | #64 | |||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/66603/to...er-one-seller/
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/66607/su...trong-results/
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05-05-2010, 06:43 PM | #66 | |||
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05-05-2010, 07:54 PM | #67 | ||
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The first set of graphical data has been uploaded in the Tech Portal now.
An interesting month for a number of reasons including the fall of the Large segment behind the light SUV's (again) although it also got back above the medium SUV's by a whisker. Cheers Russ
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05-05-2010, 07:55 PM | #68 | ||
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With Hilux selling up a storm we could really use the T6 ....NOW!
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05-05-2010, 07:56 PM | #69 | |||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/66594/ho...est-month-yet/ that the cruze has had over 2500 sales last month. I don't know what people see in this Daewoo other then price. |
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05-05-2010, 08:06 PM | #70 | |||
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05-05-2010, 08:15 PM | #71 | ||
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Thanks Russ.
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05-05-2010, 08:17 PM | #72 | |||
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I'd like to see the fleet/private split on cruze and in particular that versus the commodore split. Its interesting that after securing 2500 sales of cruze they also report a pretty lackluster 3100 sales of VE. I'd have to check but that is the closest the FG has gone to the VE in raw sales no. difference for a while, maybe since FG launched (bearing in mind FG already matched VE sedan for sedan). The huge number of VE omegas (by % of VE sales), which are nearly all fleet, combined with the high sales of cruze has crushed the VE to a very very low private buyer/rich model mix. You can bet your bacon that the 2700FG sales netted ford more money in profit then the 3100 VE sales. Hell the 2500 cruze sales probably got Holden more profit than teh VE sales..... Without the Wagon (which is a bit fresher) the VE would both lose the overal race to the FG AND have an even lower private buyer mix. The FG while profitable is being built at the production limit....it was never going to beat the VE. But its a rival holden (GM daewoo) product that will kill it.....not the falcon....
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05-05-2010, 08:33 PM | #73 | ||
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The Cruze is fast becoming Commodore's biggest competitor - talk about canibalism
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05-05-2010, 08:34 PM | #74 | |||
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The majority of reports I have read and the feedback people have given seems to be pretty positive.
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05-05-2010, 08:48 PM | #75 | |||
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If anything, if I were in the market for a cheap base model small sedan, I'd have it over the Corolla, Lancer, Focus and 3. It's definitely a good car.
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05-05-2010, 09:08 PM | #76 | |||
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As mentioned above, the Cruze isn't anything special, it won't lap great times or perform power slides but the majority of consumers don't want that.
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05-05-2010, 09:22 PM | #77 | ||
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Yeap the Cruze is a modern day Hyundai Excel (the bubble one).
At the end of the day its selling and thats what they need.
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05-05-2010, 09:25 PM | #78 | |||
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Comparing it the the Hyundai Excel probably doesn't do it justice, as that was a piece of crap, no matter which way you looked at it, but the Cruze looks decent, drives well, handles safely, is built well, it has a five star safety rating and is brimming with kit. The Excel was a crap box, and no way in hell can that be glorified.
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05-05-2010, 10:20 PM | #79 | ||
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05-05-2010, 10:42 PM | #80 | |||
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I like you to point us in the direction of these so-called positive REPORTS!! Everything i've read SLAMS the engines for being old,extremely underpowered and overly thirsty when compared to the competition. Not so good for the so-called Green credentials it also portrays. |
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05-05-2010, 11:17 PM | #81 | ||
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Having driven and worked on a couple, they are the best of the Korean stuff. So still far from class leading but not as bad as you'd think.
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06-05-2010, 08:54 AM | #82 | ||||
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I'll start you off http://www.themotorreport.com.au/320...rst-test-drive Quote:
For the price it is a decent car and offers another choice for buyers in this price range.
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06-05-2010, 09:15 AM | #83 | |||
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06-05-2010, 09:36 AM | #84 | ||
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So does anyone have a model/make run down yet to post up?
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06-05-2010, 09:54 AM | #85 | ||
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Russell, am I reading the stats incorrectly or is something wrong. By all indications the stats indicate the commodore at just over 4100 sales, whereas all articles i have read have the commodore sales at just over 3100 sales.
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06-05-2010, 11:23 AM | #86 | ||
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The Commodore is in at 3,165 for the month and a quick look at the graphs shows that to be the case - with the exception of the combined platform graph which adds the Ute sales in as well. Likewise the segment based graphs in the Supplementary stats are based on rolling averages so the figures do not represent a single month but the average over 40+ months.
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06-05-2010, 01:43 PM | #87 | |||
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06-05-2010, 01:49 PM | #88 | ||
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I think the new Fiesta has really lifted light car sales...see a few of them on the road...
Good result for Ford, because Hyundai and Mazda were damn close last month...possibly ahead.
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06-05-2010, 03:30 PM | #90 | ||
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The best thing i can get out of all that, is that Ford sell the most locally produced cars, therefore making them the most Australian!
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