What If FORD Had an Advertising Campaign Like JEEP ???

[Gavin Thomas]

^^^ Lol..... Wish there was just "only one jeep"....not the many, many broken down S/B's that have limped into a few workshops that i've worked at, lol.

[Gavin Thomas]

Originally Posted by patxbcoupe

.... no offense intended to any Jeep owners, but....

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Yeah think i may also need to use this line, but then again the poor old Jewish folk might be in front here for possibly being really offended.

[csv8]

Jeep Grand Cherokee Reliability
Scorecard
Overall: 8.2
Performance: 8.6
Exterior: 8.3
Interior: 8.7
Safety: 9.2
Reliability:


How we calculate scores
Research analyzed for this review
Pros and Cons
Near-luxury levels of interior comfort
Legendary off-road capabilities
Plenty of rear-seat space
Poor fuel economy
High base price
Dated five-speed transmission
Best Price Program

The 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee reliability score shown is the Predicted Reliability rating provided by J.D. Power and Associates.

The 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee is covered by a three-year/36,000-mile basic warranty, which includes towing assistance, and a five-year/100,000-mile warranty. That’s better than Ford’s five-year/60,000-mile powertrain warranty and is the same as Chevrolet’s powertrain warranty.
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...e/Reliability/

[Shonky.]

you know JD Power ratings are based on surveys not hard data?

[Gavin Thomas]

Originally Posted by csv8

Jeep Grand Cherokee Reliability.....

The 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee is covered by a three-year/36,000-mile basic warranty, WHICH INCLUDES TOWING ASSISTANCE.....

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Just the short hand version guys to chop it down to the most important bits,

[Shonky.]

ha ha, free tow truck for every buyer

[SPArKy_Dave]

Still............. I wouldn't say no to one of these -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HiFqbgO_Ck

[SPArKy_Dave]

On second thoughts..... Ford, build us a V8 Territory please.

[Nikked]

A V8 territory that no one will buy?

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

you know JD Power ratings are based on surveys not hard data?

Be careful...many like to show case Ford's impressive results within the JD Power survey's. They use the results as gospel ;)

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by ESP

Having a truck looking front end doesn't exactly endear the female buyer.....

You be surprised how many females like the look of a Prado, the majority driven seem to be by females and they dont touch the dirt

[kaniSS]

"You bought a Ford?" "you idiot"



Kidding.

[chevypower]

I don't care what JD Powers says. That being said Jeeps have been very reliable since they partnered with Mercedes on the previous generation. My dad has the previous GC with 3.0 CRD (upon my recommendation), he has been very happy with it. So happy that he wants to get the new one. I told him he may as well keep his until the 8 speed version comes out. He gets people telling him how unreliable his vehicle is and is constantly correcting them.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Nikked

A V8 territory that no one will buy?

correct I would like to see Jeeps sales of the hemi compared to the diesel which apparently costs the same

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by chevypower

I don't care what JD Powers says. That being said Jeeps have been very reliable since they partnered with Mercedes on the previous generation. My dad has the previous GC with 3.0 CRD (upon my recommendation), he has been very happy with it. So happy that he wants to get the new one. I told him he may as well keep his until the 8 speed version comes out. He gets people telling him how unreliable his vehicle is and is constantly correcting them.

I have to agree.
I have been driving a 2012 Dodge Journey for the past 2 weeks, 200km a day and it has been fantastic, as much as I would like to I cannot fault it.
It isn't there to replace the Focus, I only have it for a few weeks.

[H.G]

I got free tow truck assistance with my JEEP..
but I also got it with my FORD.. its called roadside assist..
so what exactly was the point here Gavin Thomas?

[superfly]

Originally Posted by ESP

Buying Falcon is boring........

Don't agree with this. In the last 20 years I've owned Hyundais and then Subarus. Now I'm onto my first Ford and it's a fantastic product. Problem is that most people don't know.

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

I have not seen an Ecoboost ad on TV yet nor have I seen an EcoLPI ad. The closest I have seen to a falcon ad in a long time is the current Shell V Power.

Me either but I have seen a few Ford ads that include the XR6 sedan and ute.

Originally Posted by H.G

I enjoy my JEEP 100 times more than my falcon.
show me a FORD that you can actually take rock hopping?

.... they are buying jeeps and ruining what was once a great community to be a part of.. dont see FORD owners waving to each other.. its a jeep thing.. and obviously none of you understand.

Show me a JEEP that drives great over bitumen roads in the mountains.

As for waving, people used to do that when I had my WRX. I think it's weird, just because I drive the same car as them, why should I wave? It's not just a jeep thing ;)

[superfly]

Originally Posted by H.G

I got free tow truck assistance with my JEEP..
but I also got it with my FORD.. its called roadside assist..
so what exactly was the point here Gavin Thomas?

I'd say the point is that you'll actually have to use your tow truck assistance

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by H.G

I got free tow truck assistance with my JEEP..
but I also got it with my FORD.. its called roadside assist..
so what exactly was the point here Gavin Thomas?

just jokes I believe

(it's a Ford thing, you wouldn't understand)

[FRD888XR8]

Originally Posted by Nikked

You know that diesels are class 2 carcinogens, and are harder to make Euro 5 and 6 compliant, i regards to particals?

So, diesel would be a dud...

I do, but you can only live in feer for so long, they make a terry why not a falcon.

BTW, THEY say a mobile phone could give you cance or braing tumor .... and I still see a lot o ppl using them ....

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by superfly

Show me a JEEP that drives great over bitumen roads in the mountains

Uhhh a great assessment of a vehicle you have obviously never driven! Unless you just mindlessly compare all cars' handling to a WRX, I seriously recommend taking one for a spin.

Originally Posted by superfly

Now I'm onto my first Ford and it's a fantastic product. Problem is that most people don't know.

Maybe you would say the same words after trying a Jeep.

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by Peuty

You bought a Jeep? Yes Michael, I bought a Jeep!

What I don't think the wife in this ad understands, is that the husband is asking "why the hell did you buy a Jeep???"

thats exactly how I take this ad

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by superfly

Don't agree with this. In the last 20 years I've owned Hyundais and then Subarus. Now I'm onto my first Ford and it's a fantastic product. Problem is that most people don't know.

Past 20 years maybe.......
But today - Hyundai and Subaru ( and definitely KIA ) make some very interesting and quirky cars with a lot more value and much better warranties and after sales support. In this context - it makes buying a Falcon a more mundane and boring purchase........ Doesn't mean the car aint any good - its just getting a bit old hat compared to the newer offerings from Global platforms.

[RedHotGT]

Originally Posted by FRD888XR8

Bring back 2 door coupe and waggon models
add engine options:
V8 NA + supercharged RWD
6 Turbo RWD + 4WD
4 Turbo RWD + 4WD
and why not a Diesel
and have them available in all versions
sedans, Utes (workhorses and wheelbarrow), waggons 2 door coupe.

Wow - so what your saying there is with one FALCON you would actually have 28 different combinations of car/drivetrain - no wait you didn't give the option for manual or auto - so 56 options for car/drivetrain? It's simply not feasable.

A model of car can't be all things to everyone. But it needs to be designed in a way that it appeals to the majority of it's target market, as well as a small amount of potential buyers in different market segments (hoping they change over).

[RspecAU]

I have said it before and i'll say it again Ford need to loose the "Family" car image and make there preformence cars more like a preformrnce car and not something that needs 10k of work done to it.
As for Ford V Holden thats alway going to be there as there is noway Ford or Holden could ever compete with the real prefomence car of this world.

[RedHotGT]

Originally Posted by RspecAU

I have said it before and i'll say it again Ford need to loose the "Family" car image and make there preformence cars more like a preformrnce car and not something that needs 10k of work done to it.
As for Ford V Holden thats alway going to be there as there is noway Ford or Holden could ever compete with the real prefomence car of this world.

Now - I'm one of those people who HATE people that correct spelling...

BUT - You've managed to spell Performance incorrectly 3 times, and each time it's spelt differently!?!

You will find that 'Family' cars sell more than 'Performance' cars, and if they need volume sales that won't be found in performance cars.

[FRD888XR8]

Originally Posted by loftie

Wow - so what your saying there is with one FALCON you would actually have 28 different combinations of car/drivetrain - no wait you didn't give the option for manual or auto - so 56 options for car/drivetrain? It's simply not feasable.

A model of car can't be all things to everyone. But it needs to be designed in a way that it appeals to the majority of it's target market, as well as a small amount of potential buyers in different market segments (hoping they change over).

sure mate, the engine variants will require different GB and drive-train I thought it goes without say,but ....
The 5 man & 4 auto are pretty much dead ... aren't they ?

and I believe one car can make a lot of people happy.

Fuel saver,random rev-head, big 6 turbo, V8 nutter .... Taxis .... company car .... Family wagon/ hot wagon ....

Holden does it, sales is good ... why wouldn't work with ford ???

[washoutbeach]

Just getting back to the war for a minute, according to official media releases, the Americans sent more than 33,000 jeeps to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1944.

And from that awesome site Howstuffworks:-


In his book, Lend-Lease, Weapon for Victory, Lend-Lease administrator Edward R. Stettinius Jr., later to be Franklin D. Roosevelt's secretary of state, relates the following story:

"The Russians early learned the value of our jeeps...They had asked for motorcycle sidecars, but as I wrote Ambassador Litvinov late in January 1942, our own Army was using jeeps almost entirely instead of motorcycle sidecars...The Russians decided to try the jeeps and soon found that our Army had good reason to rely on them...They worked so well in the mire and rough going on the Russian roads that the Red Army quickly asked for more. Since then we have shipped thousands of them to Russia.

"Last year when an Associated Press correspondent visited a Soviet artillery regiment on the central front, he was driven in a jeep through deep mud and across rough fields to the regimental headquarters. Between jounces he turned to the Red Army driver and asked him how he liked the car. The driver answered with one word: "'Zamechatelno!' That is the Russian equivalent for 'swell!'"

Which makes me think just how well the Territory would have fared in the frozen wastes of Siberia.

Having said that, I can see real need for a vehicle with a military pedigree to nip into those rare car parking spaces just outside Fitness First.

Onwards Soccer mums, go forth and reclaim the motherland for the glorious Marshall Stalin.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by FRD888XR8

Holden does it, sales is good ... why wouldn't work with ford ???

well, for starters, there is the millions that need to be spent.

There is a good reason why aussie coupes only pop up every now and then, and a good reason why Holden dropped the statesmen...


Think about it, holden don't have there AWD setup anymore do they, nor a coupe.


And, i wouldnt say Holdens sales are anymore better then Fords.

[superfly]

Originally Posted by chevypower

[Uhhh a great assessment of a vehicle you have obviously never driven! Unless you just mindlessly compare all cars' handling to a WRX, I seriously recommend taking one for a spin.

I don't think the Jeep will run for long enough to make it enjoyable
My handling comment was in reference to "rock hopping". Jeep make only SUV's so you'd hope that they work good offroad. Ford on the other hand makes predominantly road cars.

And no I don't compare all handling to the WRX. I like my FG better as an all round car than my WRX and I'm real happy I sold my WRX after 12 year ownership. My WRX was fun at the time but not any longer. The XR handles just fine but can't rockjump like a Jeep I guess.

Originally Posted by chevypower

Maybe you would say the same words after trying a Jeep.

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That's just it, I would never buy a Jeep. I want a sedan not a 4WD to drive in Suburbia.