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16-01-2015, 05:49 PM | #61 | ||
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why? to many know it all here will tell you..
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16-01-2015, 06:00 PM | #62 | ||
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17-01-2015, 02:42 AM | #63 | ||
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People are a lot more informed these days and know Holden is GM.
Ford have used the Australian thing too... Btw Holden could not have started production in 48 without government help. GM thought Aus was too socialistic and didn't want to spend the money. |
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17-01-2015, 05:37 AM | #64 | ||
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It doesn't matter how many people know where some of holdens products are made. They will always sell more as holdens than they would as opels or daewoo etc. Simply because for many people Holden is a relatable brand, and a brand name consumers are familiar with.
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17-01-2015, 02:40 PM | #65 | ||
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"In a surprise move, Holden and GM confirm plans to launch a V8-powered sports car in Australia as soon as 2017
Holden will launch a V8-powered 'sports car' in Australia within the next few years, a General Motors executive has confirmed to Australian journalists in Detroit. The finer technical details of the plan are not yet known, but Holden has confirmed the comments made by Stefan Jacoby, Executive VP Consolidated International Operations. "It will be most likely a V8, it will be a sports car and it will be a global car." The list of possible nameplates is short: the rear-drive Code 130R concept shown in Detroit 2012 and the all-new Camaro. Jacoby would not provide additional information other than to offer cryptic clues: "It will be something which truly fulfils the requirement of a true Holden sports car. We will bring a true sports car to Australia for the brand portfolio. It is not currently in production." Jacoby immediately ruled out the historical nameplates Monaro and Torana as possible names. The reveal and on-sale date will fall around the same time GM Holden closes its manufacturing facility in Elizabeth and ends Commodore production in 2017. The likely nameplate is Camaro and the timing fits. An all-new Camaro (pictured) is expected in North America in 2016. Plus, Holden engineers have a history with Camaro; they were responsible for dynamic chassis tuning of the current car, and their work has received high praise from customers and fellow GM engineers in the US. It is quite probable that the next-gen Camaro is presently undergoing ride and handling tuning at Lang Lang in the hands of Australian chassis engineers in preparation for its North America launch in 2016. The next-gen Camaro is believed to be built on GM's Alpha platform, but GM remains unwilling to comment on right-hand-drive possibilities for Alpha. As recently as November, Mark Dickens, ?the Director of Performance Variants, Performance Parts and Motorsports Engineering at GM, told motoring.com.au that RHD was possible for Camaro but highly unlikely. That may have changed between November and now. The Code 130R is rear-drive and it is small, much smaller than Camaro. The question is: will a V8 fit within Code 130R's compact dimensions? The other concern regarding Code 130R as the possible source for a Holden badged sports car is that GM has not confirmed production. It is still a concept – and well-founded speculation suggests the Code 130R will remain a concept only. For these reasons, Camaro seems the logical choice as the donor for a RHD V8 sports car. GM and Holdens' decision to develop a V8-powered RHD sports car was made within the past few months and may be linked with recent customer research in Australia indicating that Holden risks losing significant customer brand loyalty with the end of local Commodore production. Most obviously, a Holden V8 sports car will also counter Ford's power moves with Mustang in Australia. And Holden executives know that loyal V8 fans will defect from Holden and convert to Ford on the strength of Mustang's offering. A Holden V8 sports car will retain their loyalty and confidence and restore customer and dealer excitement for the brand.' http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015...n;outbrain-art
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18-01-2015, 05:54 PM | #67 | ||
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The problem with the mustang and comaro is they are both only 4 seaters.
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18-01-2015, 06:56 PM | #69 | ||
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Problem?
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18-01-2015, 07:41 PM | #70 | ||
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Problem ? only 2 door!!!!
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18-01-2015, 07:58 PM | #71 | ||
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Cant get 3 kids in the back. No more high powered rwd sedans for me after 2016/17.
What are camrys like these days?
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18-01-2015, 08:06 PM | #72 | ||
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18-01-2015, 08:19 PM | #73 | ||
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18-01-2015, 08:26 PM | #74 | ||
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And that Highway Patrol car can do the same speed now too, maybe not as smooth though.
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If you are lucky enough to be able to get the Aurion version you’ll be able to mock, ridicule and generally embarrass the owners of older GT’s and V8's. Or so I read somewhere on the internet.
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the proof is in the sale atm. Commodore is the only car they have in top ten. same can be said with Ford with the Ranger. difference is. Ford could disappear all together from Australia. there would still a Ford badge on cars as Ford make cars in other parts of the world, not just Australia. Holden is an Australian branch of GM. theres no Holden manufactures elsewhere in the world. sorry but that badge is on death row. Don't believe me?? why is there no more Pontiac??? |
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You can also add the closure of these brands in the last ten years - Hummer, Daewoo, Saturn & Oldsmobile. These days there is no sentiment and nothing is safe if the business model is poor. Personally after the closure, if I was interested in buying a Holden, I can't see why I wouldn't be just as interested no matter what badge it wore, Chev or anything else. They will be all one and the same from then on.
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19-01-2015, 09:56 AM | #79 | ||
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Personally I think we will find it to be typical GM oversell, it will be later, and only a V8 if Ford prove that the market exists.
But this rumour will trick many into delaying their purchase of a 'stang. For me it is of little interest as I cannot see it working with the kids sit in the back pulling an 18 foot caravan. After loving my straight six family sedan ... there is little left but a v6 Chrysler, or step into the SUV world. |
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19-01-2015, 10:31 AM | #80 | ||
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In any case, it would be rad living over there and having a spare 100k lying around. Look at the selection of muscle you can chose from. Heck, you`d only need about 40k to drive-away in the Hellcat's little brother, that alone runs the 1/4 in the high 12`s. There will no doubt be a lot of Ford,Chev and Mopar fans driving around in their rival's cars.
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06-02-2015, 06:24 PM | #81 | ||
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America still "has" a massive car culture. The corporations cash in majorly selling horsepower, both with cars, parts, Hollywood films, etcetera...
Here on the other hand, we either drive 4cyl Daewoos that couldn't spin a wheel on ice, or we're HOONS, according to our government. |
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08-02-2015, 02:50 PM | #83 | ||
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Older then? You mean older *than*...
Otherwise, I believe that you're correct. According to Wikipedia, the first OHC engine was produced in 1902. According to other online sources, GM produced the first OHV engine in 1917. So, to those which claim that OHV is old tech... you're correct! But OHC is in fact even older tech! |
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09-02-2015, 12:45 PM | #88 | ||
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Just look at this "junk". It's so light, it will break on all the aussie pot holes.. yep.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/08-C6-Corvet...d8e05d&vxp=mtr |
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