Club plates in Vic

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Just slightly off topic here.........

I have no cars on club rego but I am curious as to how insurance works with club plates.

Here in NSW 3rd party (green slip) is a stand alone policy and not handled by the RTA/RMS so how do the insurance companies calculate the cost.

in NSW With club rego third party personal (CTP) is covered by RMS as part of the annual fee)

Originally Posted by GasOLane

The same for fully comp ins, do they take into account the only driving the car for 45 days a year ?

They guesstimate that being a club rego car and as such should only be used for club events and maintenance that it is rarely used

In my case the value of the car stayed the same but the cost of the premium pretty much halved when I went over to club rego

[78xcgxl]

The current scheme in VIC i believe is fine how it currently is. Just because some you may believe a VN or EA is not a classic and may not feel the same way the owner does, so what. As long as the car is road worthy does it have to concern you? Not everyone has the luxury to be able to pay $700 + on multiple cars each year. My ZH was off the road for 3 years as i couldn't simply afford to pay the rego on top of my other cars. I recently got club rego, spent around $1000 and got the car completely road worthy. If i had a like for EAs (which i don't) and one sitting in the garage i would get club rego for it as well, better than having another dead car.

Who knows one day in years to come i might find a cheap black EB XR6 like the my dad had when i was young and it will be certainly going on club rego! Unless someone on here is willing to reach into their deep pockets and pay the $700 for a car that will be driven twice a month?

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by The Yeti

in NSW With club rego third party personal (CTP) is covered by RMS as part of the annual fee)

What ? the RMS finally got something right!

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Just slightly off topic here.........

I have no cars on club rego but I am curious as to how insurance works with club plates.

Here in NSW 3rd party (green slip) is a stand alone policy and not handled by the RTA/RMS so how do the insurance companies calculate the cost.

The same for fully comp ins, do they take into account the only driving the car for 45 days a year ?

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

TAC is the only third party insurer in Vic. The third party insurance is included in the ~$70 club registration fee for the 45 day permit.

The comprehensive insurance is a bit cheaper with club plates, for both Lumleys (my insurer), and Shannons. As it was previously with the earlier CH plates.

what Silver Ghia said Roger (I am with Shannons for the car), but the club permit fee has the TAC component in it

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by 78xcgxl

Unless someone on here is willing to reach into their deep pockets and pay the $700 for a car that will be driven twice a month?

and of course you are an active member of the car club that is sponsoring you and you attend as many of their activities as you possibly can and you are not just in the car club for the benefits of club rego surely

[78xcgxl]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

and of course you are an active member of the car club that is sponsoring you and you attend as many of their activities as you possibly can and you are not just in the car club for the benefits of club rego surely

That is correct, but some clubs don't really care and it is their choice i guess. I personally always go to the club meeting each month and attend as many club events as much as i can. I also genuinely do enjoy going to them as well, which is thanks to such a great club and members.

[Hulsty]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I struggle to use mine for 20 days per year

It was a big effort to get 43 days use, pretty much every trip I took it out. This year will be much less, had to drive it to work last week so that was 7 days, even still, will struggle to get 30 days this year I reckon.

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by buickman

What I find unfair in the new rules is if a car has been forced to be converted to RHD and previously registered in Australia it now has to have an engineer’s report as well as a roadworthy.

Hopefully I'm reading this right .. but in VSI-33

4.4 Imported vehicles
An imported vehicle, for which admission to CPS is being sought, must have Australian registration history or a copy of the Vehicle Import Approval issued by the Commonwealth Government relating to the vehicle will be required.
Further, imported vehicles without registration history that were built after 1968 require a VASS Approval Certificate demonstrating compliance with any applicable ADRs.
An imported vehicle that has undergone an assessable modification that has not been previously registered in its modified condition in Australia must be issued with a VASS Club Permit Approval Certificate.

It's the last sentence I'm intepreting as:
"An imported vehicle that has undergone an assessable modification (RHD conversion) that HAS been previously registered in its modified condition in Australia does not require a VASS Club Permit Approval Certificate."

Thoughts?

[Trevor 57]

I am not sure where you got that from, but how I read it:

If you want to put an imported car onto the CPS it must have an Australian registration history, if it doesn't it must undergo an engineers check and be assessed against any ADR's applicable at the time of manufacture, so for example if a car was built in 1966 in the USA it must comply with 1966 ADR's

and I agree with your interpretation of the last sentence

[buickman]

Originally Posted by OzJavelin

Hopefully I'm reading this right .. but in VSI-33


It's the last sentence I'm intepreting as:
"An imported vehicle that has undergone an assessable modification (RHD conversion) that HAS been previously registered in its modified condition in Australia does not require a VASS Club Permit Approval Certificate."

Thoughts?

I'm listening to old club members panicking that their RHD converted cars from years ago and some have quiet a few sitting idle in sheds will have to have a VASS Club Permit Approval Certificate as well as a RWC. So I was concerned that my old 1975 Electra I'm gradually restoring might have to re-go another engineers report even though its a Chapel conversion.
It has given myself a bit of relief as I was having trouble trying to locate Vic Roads interpretation on the RHD conversions. thanks

[neptune blue]

Originally Posted by buickman

I'm listening to old club members panicking that their RHD converted cars from years ago and some have quiet a few sitting idle in sheds will have to have a VASS Club Permit Approval Certificate as well as a RWC. So I was concerned that my old 1975 Electra I'm gradually restoring might have to re-go another engineers report even though its a Chapel conversion.
It has given myself a bit of relief as I was having trouble trying to locate Vic Roads interpretation on the RHD conversions. thanks

I thought all conversions needed certification with the only exception those company's licenced to do conversions ( compliance plate)

[buickman]

Originally Posted by neptune blue

I thought all conversions needed certification with the only exception those company's licenced to do conversions ( compliance plate)

The way I read it is if the car has been registered in Australia it does not need a VASS. But I’m thinking that some of the real older conversions I’ve seen have had no compliance plate at all on the car which might have been removed or never had one only paper work for engineering work carried out in the late 50’s to early 70’s. Some car collectors have so many that have sat around for over 40 years and the famous words ONE DAY that car will be on the road. Sadly time and health reasons force them to sell the cars for scrap or restoration. This might explain the concern because they cannot find the information on some of their cars. I found the old Chapel tag on the car I have on top of having the last Rego papers for it. ohttp://www.fordforums.com.au/attachment.php?attachmentid=87348&stc=1&d=14287470 64n the