Should Traffic Fines simply be Abolished?

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[jpd80]

Originally Posted by vztrt

If they have been there for a long time then these people are not paying attention or don't care. These people deserve the fine. It's not that hard with the tech that's available these days to know where they are.

Whatever is going on, the level of driving skills is certainly much lower these days.
Even if you're not safety conscious, protecting your license should be a priority,
the last thing people should be doing is giving govco easy money and a reason
to suspend your license.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Whatever is going on, the level of driving skills is certainly much lower these days.
Even if you're not safety conscious, protecting your license should be a priority,
the last thing people should be doing is giving govco easy money and a reason
to suspend your license.

No one gives a **** about licenses these days, the amount of non license drivers on our roads is one big joke and our courts just slap them on the wrists letting them off lightly.

[Trevor 57]

It is actually cheaper to pay the fine for being unlicensed that what it costs to get a licence

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

It is actually cheaper to pay the fine for being unlicensed that what it costs to get a licence

^^^ Sad, But True...

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

It is actually cheaper to pay the fine for being unlicensed that what it costs to get a licence

It is the lack of Insurance that is the risk

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

It is the lack of Insurance that is the risk

Those ferals usually have nothing Lose (or take) anyway.......

[jpd80]

Perhaps vehicles need to be fitted with sophisticated interlocks that
prevent operation without valid license, registration and insurance.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Perhaps vehicles need to be fitted with sophisticated interlocks that
prevent operation without valid license, registration and insurance.

Then the Government would lose revenue, it's in the Government's interest to keep you on the road but fishing out fines.

If they were that concerned about phone usage for example then make it 12 points.

[Trevor 57]

Some warehousing/manufacturing business have sensors in the concrete, a bit like the sensors at traffic lights. When a forklift runs over these it limits the speed of the forklift whilst it operates in the area, so outside the are not speed limited, when they go in light pedestrian traffic areas they are reduced to 8km/h, when they go into heavy production areas they are limited to 4km/h. SPC is one that has it

It wouldn't take much to install that technology into cars and at designated speed zones

There is also talk that cars coming into Australia be speed limited like a truck. It is very easy to do via the cars computer. So stay tuned for that one, it is happening in Europe. You were told here first hahahaha

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

There is also talk that cars coming into Australia be speed limited like a truck. It is very easy to do via the cars computer. So stay tuned for that one, it is happening in Europe. You were told here first hahahaha

Yes, I believe it will come to this with the speed limit being adhered to by the computer, older cars passing (if they are still with us) speeding could be photographed by the new speed limited ones cutting down fixed speed camera's. No need for HWP.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Some warehousing/manufacturing business have sensors in the concrete, a bit like the sensors at traffic lights. When a forklift runs over these it limits the speed of the forklift whilst it operates in the area, so outside the are not speed limited, when they go in light pedestrian traffic areas they are reduced to 8km/h, when they go into heavy production areas they are limited to 4km/h. SPC is one that has it

It wouldn't take much to install that technology into cars and at designated speed zones

There is also talk that cars coming into Australia be speed limited like a truck. It is very easy to do via the cars computer. So stay tuned for that one, it is happening in Europe. You were told here first hahahaha

There's a Truck Fleet here, with all trucks satellite Tracked. At One particular delivery site, where there's being a couple of "Incidents" So Now that site's co ordinates are entered In, & the Truck's speed limiter is Set at 20Kmh whilst ever any of their Trucks are on that Site..


I too have heard about Cars to be Speed Limited..I have a feeling that some of the High performance Euros have their limiter set a fair way below their "theoretical Top Speed...!! But happy to be corrected..

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

There is also talk that cars coming into Australia be speed limited like a truck. It is very easy to do via the cars computer. So stay tuned for that one, it is happening in Europe. You were told here first hahahaha

Actually read it in this heartwarming story first....

Mandatory speed limiters fitted to new cars will be the best thing that happens to car enthusiasts

https://www.caradvice.com.au/744080/...r-enthusiasts/

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

So using your rational of "If speed cameras worked there would have been a decrease in the road toll" speed cameras must work.

Victoria's road toll increased significantly in 2019. They also added a heap of new speed cameras.

Those new cameras must work then

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Actually read it in this heartwarming story first....

Mandatory speed limiters fitted to new cars will be the best thing that happens to car enthusiasts

https://www.caradvice.com.au/744080/...r-enthusiasts/

That is depressing. Looks like its time to start messing about in boats.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by hayseed

I too have heard about Cars to be Speed Limited..I have a feeling that some of the High performance Euros have their limiter set a fair way below their "theoretical Top Speed...!! But happy to be corrected..

Not a correction but.........Bugatti Cheron. Speed limited to 420kmh from the factory as no tyre would be able to handle the top speed it's capable of.

[b0son]

It's easy to say 'just don't speed'. But when people aren't focussing on their speedo, they drive at a speed that is comfortable for them given the road/traffic conditions. A speed that can often be 10-20kph more than the speed limit. Maybe the government should set speed limits that reflect the way most drivers will drive on a given stretch. And then, they will have a moral justification for catching speeders, as opposed to just an economic one.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Some warehousing/manufacturing business have sensors in the concrete, a bit like the sensors at traffic lights. When a forklift runs over these it limits the speed of the forklift whilst it operates in the area, so outside the are not speed limited, when they go in light pedestrian traffic areas they are reduced to 8km/h, when they go into heavy production areas they are limited to 4km/h. SPC is one that has it

It wouldn't take much to install that technology into cars and at designated speed zones

There is also talk that cars coming into Australia be speed limited like a truck. It is very easy to do via the cars computer. So stay tuned for that one, it is happening in Europe. You were told here first hahahaha

Just like the speed limiter on your car - removed with HP Tuners or PCMTEC

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Whatever is going on, the level of driving skills is certainly much lower these days.
Even if you're not safety conscious, protecting your license should be a priority,
the last thing people should be doing is giving govco easy money and a reason
to suspend your license.

The skill is the same there is just more cars and less patience.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Just like the speed limiter on your car - removed with HP Tuners or PCMTEC

for those who want to be ****-heads, but 99% of the community will just live with it, like the majority of truck drivers do.

Hell, even Finemores and Simon's are at 90km/h now days

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

for those who want to be ****-heads, but 99% of the community will just live with it, like the majority of truck drivers do.

Hell, even Finemores and Simon's are at 90km/h now days

Lick those boots

[prydey]

Originally Posted by vztrt

The skill is the same there is just more cars and less patience.

Lack of patience is a massive factor.

[jstanovic]

Why don’t they have transmitters in speed limit signs that the cars sense and then are limited to that speed? Can’t be too hard with today’s tech.

Why do not people use cruise control? My mates only use it when on long drives, I use it everywhere, as soon as the speed limit changes I adjust my speed and set cruise. Once set I rarely check my speed unless going downhill, one less thing to worry about. Haven’t gotten a speeding fine since I started using it years ago. My missus Kia also has a max speed feature, once the speed is set you can slow down and stop, but when you accelerate again it maxes out at the preset speed, no need to keep resetting cruise control.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by jstanovic

Why do not people use cruise control? My mates only use it when on long drives, I use it everywhere, as soon as the speed limit changes I adjust my speed and set cruise. Once set I rarely check my speed unless going downhill, one less thing to worry about.

Same. I use cruise everywhere and wonder why others don't.

[stig_3754]

Originally Posted by prydey

Same. I use cruise everywhere and wonder why others don't.

I think it's one of those old mechanic's wives tales that using cruise in city stop/start driving isn't great for the cruise components' longevity. Even if that's true then I'm sure the tech has come a long way since those days.

Having said that, I tend to only use cruise myself on freeways or on long consistent stretches of road but that's just me.

[NickosBF2XRT]

Seems like a lot of people here are just keen on throwing money at the government. Abolish the federal government- They make plenty and plenty of money off us, without the need for imposing fines for revenue raising. We are a very highly taxed country as it is...I have a lot to say, but I feel it would fall on deaf ears here...

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by NickosBF2XRT

Seems like a lot of people here are just keen on throwing money at the government. Abolish the federal government- They make plenty and plenty of money off us, without the need for imposing fines for revenue raising. We are a very highly taxed country as it is...I have a lot to say, but I feel it would fall on deaf ears here...

Think you find the state governments are the ones issuing fines not the feds.


Cheers

[Trevor 57]

State Gvmts collect/get taxes too - GST for example

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by prydey

Same. I use cruise everywhere and wonder why others don't.

Problem is,every time you brake it has to be resumed and that can happen pretty often is suburban driving.I have also found fuel economy to be worse when using cruise because everytime there is a bit of a rise the cruise control seems to think it has to make up speed immediately whereas when driving normally I tend to catch up speed gradually

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Problem is,every time you brake it has to be resumed and that can happen pretty often is suburban driving.I have also found fuel economy to be worse when using cruise because everytime there is a bit of a rise the cruise control seems to think it has to make up speed immediately whereas when driving normally I tend to catch up speed gradually

I don't drive in such a fashion that I'm on and off the brakes. Also if you are in bumper to bumper type traffic obviously you wouldn't use it.

People quote all sorts of reasons why they don't use features of their cars but then complain about revenue raising. If cruise saves me getting a speeding fine then it doesn't matter if it's not quite as economical does it. (Unless you are in very hilly territory, cruise is more economical actually)