Orsm Gets the Sack from Drag Tag. - Page 3

4.9 EF Futura · 21-06-2006, 09:56 AM

Sounds like a below-the-belt hit mate. Yeah they prob can get away with letting you go @ 1 days notice but the decent thing would have been at least a week.

Going by what you guys are saying tho - it sounds like you were thrown overboard just before they hit the iceberg... sounds like you're better off IMO... you might even thank them one day lol.

Keep that chin up - all the best.

dute · 21-06-2006, 10:23 AM

Chin up Chris Truck driving is not that bad,, you did it for a long time and got by....

RSgerry · 21-06-2006, 10:30 AM

sorry to hear about this. it is extremely short sighted to let someone with contacts and experience go. using someone in the way that they have will come back and bite them on the bum. good luck in getting another job.

frost · 21-06-2006, 11:02 AM

That sucks chris :( Best of luck in the future, IBM in ballarats always employeeing lol, think, you could deal with kelli every day!

Jeeepers · 21-06-2006, 01:28 PM

Sorry to hear that Chris, If your serious about driving, pm me. Soldier on dude.

Poetic Justice · 21-06-2006, 03:08 PM

Is it really a good idea to bag this Drag Tag place out publicly?

Grounds for defamation if you ask me, and all personal parts to it aside I'd be ****ed if I was a business owner and this was happening on such a big forum.

Just my two cents..

Dazza XLT · 21-06-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackout

I'd be ****ed if I was a business owner and this was happening on such a big forum.

Just my two cents..

I'd be ****ed if I was an employee who has just been sacked, with a days notice.

Redrum · 21-06-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackout

Is it really a good idea to bag this Drag Tag place out publicly?

Grounds for defamation if you ask me, and all personal parts to it aside I'd be ****ed if I was a business owner and this was happening on such a big forum.

Just my two cents..

Businesses and other organisations are not perceived in Australian defamation law as being endowed with personal feelings. However they may take action over "injurious falsehood".

That encompasses statements disparaging a plaintiff's goods/services. The tort has three elements -

* the statement must be false (irrespective of whether it is defamatory of an individual plaintiff)
* the statement must published maliciously
* it must have been intended to produce and resulted in actual damage, with the plaintiff having suffered economic loss because the falsehood deceived others about the organisation's activities.

I think the first section of the 3 parts the most relevant. Your point though is one would have to take into consideration.

Da_Sheep · 21-06-2006, 03:52 PM

I can never understand with big companies, Why ever do they sack the people with the experience and contacts, probably for some fool with huge uni qualifications!!!!

so sorry to hear about this but by the sounds of things you will be fine

and i had the same thoughts as XRated i was going to have a go but looks like ill b spreading the word on there disgrace and destruction!!!!

xwgthoe · 21-06-2006, 05:17 PM

I would not say it is a big company and besides if you never try anything for yourself how can you make judgements???

XRQTOR · 21-06-2006, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackout

Is it really a good idea to bag this Drag Tag place out publicly?

Grounds for defamation if you ask me, and all personal parts to it aside I'd be ****ed if I was a business owner and this was happening on such a big forum.

Just my two cents..

At the end of the day they need to prove it's him bagging them out on the forum, will they be willing to spend up huge amounts of money dragging him through the courts just to shut him up. I highly doubt the director's of the forums would be willing to give up any form of personal info on him without some form of warrent esp over this subject.

Poetic Justice · 21-06-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darran

I'd be ****ed if I was an employee who has just been sacked, with a days notice.

So would I but I wouldn't post a thread about it to get attention for myself

TS50 · 21-06-2006, 05:46 PM

Just to play devils advocate here, have you ever thought about the employee that someone has spent months / years training up, looked after, paid well, then that employee goes in and says to his boss, i am leaving because Joe Blow down the road has offered me another 50cents an hour.
Do we hear anyone bagging that guy out for leaving his boss in the lurch? This happens a lot, but usually everyone will say, great move mate, but no one considers how much it will cost his old boss to train someone again.
I know i will get flamed for this, and yes I am a buisness owner. But for so long it has been a one way street, people can leave me, but if they arnt pulling their wieght, I cant get rid of them.

I am not condoning Drag Tag here, or what has happened with Chris, but from reading thru this , is he better off being out of there?
All the best, I do hope you find a employer who values you.

X ORSMXR · 21-06-2006, 06:13 PM

Thanks guys for all your comments.

There is no defamation going on here as l have plenty more to say but will not for that reason.

XRQTOR · 21-06-2006, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TS50

Just to play devils advocate here, have you ever thought about the employee that someone has spent months / years training up, looked after, paid well, then that employee goes in and says to his boss, i am leaving because Joe Blow down the road has offered me another 50cents an hour.
Do we hear anyone bagging that guy out for leaving his boss in the lurch? This happens a lot, but usually everyone will say, great move mate, but no one considers how much it will cost his old boss to train someone again.
I know i will get flamed for this, and yes I am a buisness owner. But for so long it has been a one way street, people can leave me, but if they arnt pulling their wieght, I cant get rid of them.

I am not condoning Drag Tag here, or what has happened with Chris, but from reading thru this , is he better off being out of there?
All the best, I do hope you find a employer who values you.

Like you said it's been a one way street for way to long, now the rules have changed everyone is jumping up and down and saying nothing is fair and the world is wrong

out: . If do the right thing & work hard there is'nt anthing to worry about.

Granted some people have used these new laws to do unjust stupid things but at the end of the day it's what was needed to sort things out.

4.9 EF Futura · 21-06-2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TS50

Just to play devils advocate here, have you ever thought about the employee that someone has spent months / years training up, looked after, paid well, then that employee goes in and says to his boss, i am leaving because Joe Blow down the road has offered me another 50cents an hour.

Do we hear anyone bagging that guy out for leaving his boss in the lurch?

This is a HUGE problem with my employer and you make quite a valid point. Our organisation spends literally tens of thousands of dollars training us... and people at my level usually walk out the door for an extra few grand... lol, HR then puts in a policy which sees training expenses recouped if you shoot through within 12 months of completing the course - and all hell breaks loose "they cant do that!". Lol... we can be fickle creatures...

However, to be fair - when an employee walks out... it's not usually "game, hendrix" for the employer... and employer (usually) has many employees. Employees (usually) have only the one source of income...

XRQTOR · 21-06-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

However, to be fair - when an employee walks out... it's not usually "game, hendrix" for the employer... and employer (usually) has many employees. Employees (usually) have only the one source of income...

Not all the time mate, we has a driver walk out for an extra $2 an hour a while back. To tell the truth he was on his last legs anyway but in the last 6 months since he's left about 3o people have applied for the job, 7 have left on the first day and the rest walk after the week is up or get told don't come back. most say the work is to hard.

On the other hand they paid for one of the rigid driver's to get his Semi licence and that guy reckon's it's a bludge compard to driving a rigid, HIs comment was "before i was doing 9-12 del or pickup's before 1oam and now i'm doing 1 or 2 and only need to lift the gates out 2 or 3 times a day. Finding good hard working employee's is not as easy as one may think.

FRDGAL · 22-06-2006, 01:50 AM

Seems like you went out of your way for them only to be kicked in the gut. And I think the way they went about it is weak. Not even the decency to atleast give you some kind of notice. It's pathetic!

It really annoys me when things like this happen. God forbid companies (in general, not just this place) should step back and think that maybe the person they're about to screw over has a family to support or kids to feed etc

:

Hopefully you'll have some luck getting yourself another job where you/your skills will be appreciated a little better and fairer.

Otherwise, if you do end up going on that path of starting your own detailing business then I wish you all the best with it.

Krissy

XRchic · 22-06-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackout

Is it really a good idea to bag this Drag Tag place out publicly?

Grounds for defamation if you ask me, and all personal parts to it aside I'd be ****ed if I was a business owner and this was happening on such a big forum.

Just my two cents..

Since there was info about Drag Tag on the forums prior to this incident, then I think it is more than fair for Chris to post about what happened to him and about the business.

I think you need to do some research on what the grounds for defemation actually are. Redrum has shown more about what it means.

For a defamation claim to be satisfied, there must be something that is said about someone/company in a public forum, it must damage the reputation of the claimant and cause them damage AND to be defamation, the statement made must be a lie! If you say something that is true, it is not defamation.

Also, relating your own experiences or opinions cannot be defamation.

Redrum · 22-06-2006, 12:37 PM

Drag Tag gave me my refund after minimal fuss. I give them credit for this. In doing so they stated to me five clutchs have gone in their establishment and they state in their opinion each has been due to the driver riding the clutch.

I don't know about the other four, but I have been driving manuals for 12 years, in performance cars and never once before had an issue. I told them I cannot afford to risk another clutch, regardless of the cause.

As someone told me today, each thing you decide to do with your car is a risk, and I have decided on my own grounds not to risk my car.

In relation to them losing Chris as an employee, they are losing. He is a car nut who I believe would have brought value to their business. My decision to pull out though had nothing to do with this.

DABOSS · 22-06-2006, 03:35 PM

I thought drag tag was a waste of time and effort, As it's not even close to being on the strip / Road.

I cope more of a rush when I drive my car out of the garage.

Car's get too hot too quick, Certain cars I know have broken certain parts.

All in all they have made a mistake in dismissing a valued employee and a well connected person withing the industry, The I see it it's there lose and they will pay for in due course, ie No sales or promotional work as chris did.

There just a bunch of P I S S heads with no idea and a bit of money behind them.

My 2 cents worth.

X ORSMXR · 22-06-2006, 08:27 PM

Well they rang me yesturday and said that they had given me 2 weeks notice with pay but don't have to goto work so l can find a new job.

But still l don't think it's good enough since l left a five year job to goto them just to get shafted.

MO · 22-06-2006, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORSMXR

Well they rang me yesturday and said that they had given me 2 weeks notice with pay but don't have to goto work so l can find a new job.

But still l don't think it's good enough since l left a five year job to goto them just to get shafted.

Look for your new job...word of mouth which is your OPINION is a powerful thing.

Good luck sport.

X ORSMXR · 22-06-2006, 10:57 PM

Oh for sure word of mouth is the best or worse ford of PR work and this work l will not be asked to be paid

qwigybo · 23-06-2006, 07:38 AM

hard luck mate, at least they came around and gave you 2 weeks pay, better than being booted with nothing.
i haven't read anything in this thread which could be classed as deformation thus far, redrum and chris have stated facts about their experiences with the company.
lets torch the place :thebirds: nah just j/k
good luck with finding a new job let us know how you go setting up a detailers, surely you could score some business off here

**Stav** · 23-06-2006, 08:05 AM

It is is funny how drag tag and fag rhyme? Dont worry mate god is great and you ll find somewhere that they will appreciate your skills to look after your little family.
As for drag tag. I first saw it on a free cd from a magazine and I think its a big toss in my personal opinion. No way it will replace the smell of burning rubber and the shared enthusiasm of a bunch of good forum buddies when you do a pb.Nothing can replace real life.

Each door closes for a reason mate...now to move on to new experiences and better things.The quicker you shake off their ty attitude the better for you.

:

X ORSMXR · 23-06-2006, 02:57 PM

thanks guys.

aumexican · 25-06-2006, 10:12 AM

Just read this thread mate sorry to hear.

To add to the other comments I agree I don't think a lot of people would have heard of the place(never to be muttered out loud again Maybe a fine for club members?) if it wasn't for you.

jabba · 25-06-2006, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laminge

Can i wipe all history of Dag tag from the forums now?

Please, please, please, get rid of it ALL!!!!!!!!

jabba · 25-06-2006, 11:00 AM

Chris, to tell you the truth, I am glad your out of there. Seriously, What a gay concept and the set up cost is ridiculous.. Chis, Drag Fag will go down in flames and it is best your not around when it happens.. No offence to you dude, but I aways thought Drag Fag was for skirts in cars pretending to real racers...