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Commsec released their forth quarter State of the States report for best performing economies post COVID-19 year (2020).
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Tasmania has done very well. They have leaned more towards the 'elimination strategy'. NSW, with their 'we have to share the virus strategy', is in 6th, worst in 8 years! ![]() |
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![]() QLD Premier is calling on Federal govt asking for Job Keeper to be extended to tourism operators impacted by international border lockdowns. Particularly in FNQ and the islands. But don't let that get in the way of your bull**** posts hey?? ![]() |
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On the subject of spreading bull****, here's a good insight into how someone who's quick to attack other Premiers on border closures, but not so quick to take action, or answer questions about someone who's a member of their own party, who is deliberately spreading Covid-19 misinformation on vaccines, masks, etc.
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Australia is not going to reach herd immunity until after most people have had 2 doses of vaccine. If the vaccines don't kill us or induce zombiism we are still looking at the other end of this year before that happens.
We will all have to endure another winter of being Covid safe. It would be really good if our leaders both state and federal could all work together for the common good. I suspect agreeing on a national approach to boarder controls would be a great start. Am I living in a fool’s paradise believing this will happen?
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Yes. Governments that have no confidence in their ability to contact trace and contain minor outbreaks will always throw up the borders. Add ALP versus Liberal differences and we’ll just have to wait for the vaccine... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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It was poor what happened over Christmas with Tourism QLD advertising in Sydney and Melbourne, the shutting down like that. If Anna wants to operate that way then she needs to accept the consequences.
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Wowee...do people not bother with facts anymore? The QLD premier was referring to International tourism, which QLD is heavily dependent on. The full press conference is publicly available for everyone to see. Who in their right mind thinks NSW "tourists" (or ANY other state) could make up for the shortfall
![]() You gotta be kidding yourself if you are trying to convince other states to look up to NSW's model. There are 4 other states and 2 territories who have handled it much better, recording less deaths, and who have not been responsible for seeding multiple outbreaks. I'd be following their example, and funnily enough, they have all used very similar strategies. Stats say their economy is not any worse off either. It appears there is an election coming in 2021, and the campaigning has started. ![]() Quote:
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Over 28 million tourists and other visitors arrived in Queensland between July 2018 and June 2019.1 This total includes 2.8 million international visitors and 25.3 million domestic overnight visitors. https://camperchamp.com.au/statistic...nsland-in-2019
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How can QLD cry foul about international tourism when they have shut everyone else domestically out a great deal of the year. I know plenty from down south would have come up for sun in the winter months. They could have cashed in a lot.
Everyone was freaking out about the NSW clusters but even if the other states shut their borders if it was a big problem you would still see it in Sydney in particular. That did not happen and it is under control. Still gold standard as far as I can tell without crippling their economy. |
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Edit: Actually, reading it again, it compares international to domestic "overnight". What does that mean? Me spending a weekend in QLD is hardly comparable with someone from the UK spending 2 weeks. Quote:
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The problem is no one has any confidence to travel in Australia when states shut their borders on a dime.
At the very least there needs to be consensus and consistency. We can't go anywhere else in the world so it could be booming for domestic travel. I can't book anywhere with confidence at the moment. |
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I think SA have a system where you need to isolate and test then get a negative result and you can go about your business with day 5 and day 11 testing. I think this would work OK for allowing people in from hotspots. I don't want to see things get out of control, but the constant opening and closing of borders is really damaging.
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I was talking to a lady at work who got caught up in the ACT soft border BS. All she did was go to a hospital in Sydney, dropped someone off and had no contact with anyone.
She was telling me that the cops rock up outside your place and then call and make you wave to them to make sure you're there. ****en nuts! |
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For anyone that is interested these are official provisional arrival stats for Australia for November and December and it is quite clear that NSW is doing the heavy lifting while taking shots from everyone else.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...latest-release |
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Vic and NSW will always bear the brunt of incoming overseas arrival numbers, because thats just the route the airlines take. When Vic had the 2nd wave, there was an article that mentioned that they were taking in 50% of international arrivals during that period, I don't have stats to check though. The thing is, everything was chugging along nicely, no one was taking pot shots at each other, until GB had a crack at the QLD premier. Have noticed NSW doesn't like to be lectured to but loves lecturing others. Always plays the victim. All I can say is, its quite telling that very rarely do any of her colleagues in other states ever publicly come out and back her comments. It is so political now, it will be very hard to get a national consensus on border and outbreak controls, unfortunately. |
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Thats a furphy. You only throw up borders if you have no confidence in your neighbour. Doesn't matter how good your own contact tracing is, if 50-100 zombies cross over and start infecting others, no amount of contact tracing is going to help you. Winter is coming.
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The UK defends AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine after Germany recommends against its use for over 65s Quote:
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And there we go... So we'll have to rely on CSL and their AZ local production now. Should be ok still. We may well end up being exporters once Australia is immunised.
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More reporting...
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You only have to be on the Newell Hwy around April/May to see most of Vic heading Nth with caravans. Then all heading back home in Sept/Oct.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 29th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 7 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.156%. 6 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.085% and active cases 72. The UK had 29,079 cases yesterday and 1,245 deaths. Just over 166k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,946 deaths sees CMR up to 1.685%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global deaths pass 2.2M, the last 50k in 3 days; Europe passes 30M cases. Only - Albania (896); Mozambique (1,275); and Malaysia (5,725) - 34% above the previous high ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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You can look at past ABS releases to know that is not the case. No where ****en close to 50%. Even now that is picking up VIC is way behind 50% https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...ional/jul-2020 https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...ional/aug-2020 https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...ional/sep-2020 https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...ional/oct-2020 https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/in...ional/nov-2020 It will depend on your view, but IMO GB is doing the right thing and balancing concerns. The only states that have comparable experience is VIC and NSW therefore any other states and territories has nothing to offer them. |
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Before the second wave all international arrivals landed in Melbourne or Sydney and were quarantined there no matter what part of Australia they actually lived. Sydney took slightly more arrivals as it always does because more planes fly there. We are now trying to share the load of international arrivals with most states doing their bit. We need more co operation between the States, Covid has at least another year to run. We need to be way better coordinated and prepared for the next pandemic IMHO.
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