FG X, The Last EVER Falcon - Picture & Discussion Thread - Page 317

Uwish · 24-09-2014, 11:58 AM

You do release that the reason the Falcon is being discontinued....lack of sales.
Do you really think there will be a rush and increase in sales?

I am waiting to see the XR8 in the flesh. Exterior for me is a winner.
Interior I need to see it next to a GEN-F to see if I can live with it.

I have all my mods planned for it if I pull the trigger on one.

deesun · 24-09-2014, 01:29 PM

Quick question. The XR8 gets more power/bigger engine than before, so power wise whats in store for the G6ET?

BlueOvalPrint · 24-09-2014, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

I've just found out that between the two Ford dealerships here in the ACT they are getting 6 XR8's from the initial release.

Then between January and March there will be approximately 280 made for all of Australia with the next allocation after that to be made in January for the April to September period.

Don't know about any one else, but I'm happy I've got a deposit down. 280 is bugger all for the whole of Australia for 4 months. If you want an XR8 even if you order in January you could, potentially, be waiting until September 2015 to get it.

I think we need to get our heads around the fact that the FGX XR8 is effectively a GT by another name - in performance, equipment, demand and rarity. The badge might be the same but it's not a mainstream XR8 like the EB-FG models, it is clearly going to be priced higher than XR6T and will be hard to get a hold of.

SensationFG8 · 24-09-2014, 01:53 PM

I'm not quite sure I 100% agree with you BlueOvalPrint.

The FGX XR8 is certainly an FGMKII GT equivalent mechanically. But it has none of the exterior/interior upgrades you would expect from what would've been an FGX GT (also an FGX GT would've received upgrades itself). My personal opinion is it is not a GT in all but badge, it is an XR8.

They'll be rare, they'll be good, but they are a mainstream XR8, eg they look almost identical to an XR6T like almost every other XR8 for the past decade.

vztrt · 24-09-2014, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by deesun

Quick question. The XR8 gets more power/bigger engine than before, so power wise whats in store for the G6ET?

Same as the Turbo. Nothing engine wise. Maybe an efficiency gain in the engine program.

XBv8mmm! · 24-09-2014, 05:07 PM

I've just spoken with McGrath Ford here in Canberra.

As I said earlier, they had 6 XR8's assigned in their first batch. Within a couple of hours all six have now had deposits put down on them and that's it, no more for the ACT for the next six months.

Despite some on here down playing the new XR8, I'm glad I put a deposit down when I did.

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SensationFG8 · 24-09-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

Despite some on here down playing the new XR8, I'm glad I put a deposit down when I did.

Not sure I've seen anyone down play the XR8 I think most people agree this car is likely going to be the performance bargain of the lot.

LooLoo18 · 24-09-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

I've just spoken with McGrath Ford here in Canberra.

As I said earlier, they had 6 XR8's assigned in their first batch. Within a couple of hours all six have now had deposits put down on them and that's it, no more for the ACT for the next six months.

Despite some on here down playing the new XR8, I'm glad I put a deposit down when I did.

Did he tell how much? Did you talk about price? Even if its ball park price how much are they going to cost? I can see some dealers doing a cash grab if what you say is true

GTP534 · 24-09-2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOvalPrint

I think we need to get our heads around the fact that the FGX XR8 is effectively a GT by another name - in performance, equipment, demand and rarity.

My personal opinion is in agreement with yours.

It is for all intents and purposes a GT, it's just called an XR8.

The GT-F is the ultimate expression of an FPV but the XR8 will be the ultimate FG X; it will be a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Bossxr8 · 24-09-2014, 08:42 PM

Here's what I built for an XR8 auto, sitting on the hot test stand. Will be fitted to an early build XR8 within the next few weeks.

amiers · 24-09-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GTP534

My personal opinion is in agreement with yours.

It is for all intents and purposes a GT, it's just called an XR8.

The GT-F is the ultimate expression of an FPV but the XR8 will be the ultimate FG X; it will be a wolf in sheeps clothing.

I agree. look back at things like a XC Fairmont GXL 351/9 inch/4 wheel disc or a k-code XA/B all GT running gear just no badge, and the badge doesn't increase horsepower!

boss engine · 24-09-2014, 09:16 PM

So does anyone know roughly how much the new xr8 will be? And am I correct in that the xr8 is exactly an r spec? If that's the case than wow what a beast!

SensationFG8 · 24-09-2014, 09:43 PM

The rough rumors have been 54k +ORC so somewhere around the 60k mark drive away.

99AUXR · 24-09-2014, 09:46 PM

70-80K in NZ. Hmmm reckon it will fail here at that price considering the GS didnt sell alot here.

FPV8U · 24-09-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

The rough rumors have been 54k +ORC so somewhere around the 60k mark drive away.

Probably about right, whether Ford like it or not this car will compete for sales with Second Hand 335 GT's.

The XR8 is really growing on me as is the overall FGX shape, still not 100% sold on the front but im getting there, really looking forward to having a drive.

EB# · 25-09-2014, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

.....The FGX XR8 is certainly an FGMKII GT equivalent mechanically. But it has none of the exterior/interior upgrades you would expect from what would've been an FGX GT.....

Agreed. It's the same policy that they have adopted in the past. Back in '08
the FG XR8 received the BFII GT 290 engine as an upgrade..... Same again for
the FGX as it gets the FGII 335 engine and the "current GT(F)" runs the 351.

Things just got a bit weird when they retired the XR8 brand and then
introduced the FPV GS, which to many was really an XR8 with a few
stickers and a hefty price tag.

EB# · 25-09-2014, 07:30 AM

Out of interest, is it correct that a 'deposit down' for the forthcoming XR8 is made without
knowing what the final sale price will be? (I have never bought a brand new car).

If that is case, is it possible that some dealers may price gouge their 'deposit clients', if the
initial demand seems high?

Dr Smith · 25-09-2014, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EB#

Out of interest, is it correct that a 'deposit down' for the forthcoming XR8 is made without
knowing what the final sale price will be? (I have never bought a brand new car).

If that is case, is it possible that some dealers may price gouge their 'deposit clients', if the
initial demand seems high?

I think it will be more a case of asking the full rrp as published by Ford with very little discounting offered. And let's be honest, this is GT performance, big exterior facelift and the last of the model for ever. It's a bit hard to haggle with pricing when you don't know it upfront (rrp) and in this case I think the XR8 will be limited by actual build rates. IIRC engine production is the limiting factor.

usernametaken · 25-09-2014, 08:26 AM

If the XR8 was to be built in such limited auto numbers (as some of the posts here have been saying), then Ford should surely sell it as a 'limited edition' final run and charge a higher price.

Look at the demand (and some of the prices charged) for the GT-F.

The whole 'auto' thing could quite possibly be a PR stunt to suck you in ...

Why release a car with only 'x' amount of transmissions... it's just stupid.

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EB#

Out of interest, is it correct that a 'deposit down' for the forthcoming XR8 is made without
knowing what the final sale price will be? (I have never bought a brand new car).

If that is case, is it possible that some dealers may price gouge their 'deposit clients', if the
initial demand seems high?

It's the chance u take I spose..Yes by putting a deposit down uve basically said to the dealer I have a sale no need to negotiate for this sale.
2. Are they going to make enough to be willing to negotiate anyways??
3. If u don't put a deposit down n want one straight away will you wait ages??

I bought an FG F6 in 2009 an the dealer came down quite a bit on sale price I felt I got a good deal at the time with a few extras. All comes down to supply and demand. My two cents is there will probly be an initial rush and they'll be hard to get but by 2nd quarter of next year should be normal days that's when I plan to buy mine. Really not buying into this won't be be enough talk. Plus of everyone on here and FB that claims they will buy an FGX how many will actually have a new one in there driveway.

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 08:43 AM

My biggest drama is deciding whether to part ways with my EL XR6 to free up some room, even though I'm pretty sure that can't happen. Always had a soft spot for EL XR's!

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

If the XR8 was to be built in such limited auto numbers (as some of the posts here have been saying), then Ford should surely sell it as a 'limited edition' final run and charge a higher price.

Look at the demand (and some of the prices charged) for the GT-F.

The whole 'auto' thing could quite possibly be a PR stunt to suck you in ...

Why release a car with only 'x' amount of transmissions... it's just stupid.

Had a look on carsales last night. 8 GT-F's for sale start at 109k and finish at 140k lol all have basically no km's on them.
Effs me how people can buy a GT-F and not drive it, bloody sure I couldn't!!

elfinke · 25-09-2014, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX S/C V8

My two cents is there will probly be an initial rush and they'll be hard to get but by 2nd quarter of next year should be normal days that's when I plan to buy mine. Really not buying into this won't be be enough talk. Plus of everyone on here and FB that claims they will buy an FGX how many will actually have a new one in there driveway.

Agreed 100%. I don't need one (want is another matter,

) under my Christmas tree this year, so I'm happy to see how things shake out around mid-year 2015.

XBv8mmm! · 25-09-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LooLoo18

Did he tell how much? Did you talk about price? Even if its ball park price how much are they going to cost? I can see some dealers doing a cash grab if what you say is true

No, no price until the 3rd of October.
The deposit is fully refundable if the price is too high. He knows where the price needs to be for me, so if he actually wants the sale then he'll be open to some bargaining.
Like some here have said, I expect that it will be mid 50's plus on roads.

**PepeLePew** · 25-09-2014, 09:29 AM

IMHO Ford have learned not to rely on forecasting demand, they just release and pray. Has never mattered how good the vehicle, how sexy, how fast, the Aussie public has shown itself to be one fickle crew.

Cashie · 25-09-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FGX S/C V8

Had a look on carsales last night. 8 GT-F's for sale start at 109k and finish at 140k lol all have basically no km's on them.
Effs me how people can buy a GT-F and not drive it, bloody sure I couldn't!!

What's the big deal, any of us could have got in early if we were in the financial position to, and bought one at RRP..
We live in a capitalist economy and if individuals choose to "invest" in a GT-F good luck to them.. remember they still have to offset the funds that are tied up in the cars until they can find a buyer... Once the FG-X comes out, they may find their target audience shrinks, there is a gamble as per all business transactions/investments.

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elfinke

Agreed 100%. I don't need one (want is another matter,

) under my Christmas tree this year, so I'm happy to see how things shake out around mid-year 2015.

Well, mine is probably more of a need lol. But not until next year. There is no chance I won't be buying an FGX XR8.
1. Blown V8 I've been wanting since I sold the F6
2. Love the shape of the FGX and am equally impressed with the addition of sync2. (Not that I don't like it I think it's spot on with no budget but for those complaining about interior, once a twin stainless full streetfighter system is fitted to mine with a tune n I'm bouncing off 6 grand crankin gears in a black manual u won't know what your sitting on with your permanent smile haha!)
3. It's the last V8 falcon ever!! Any true blue ford man knows this is a big deal. For the first time I and for a lot of our parents there will be no Ford Falcon on the showroom floor come 2016.
4. That feeling of being in the drivers seat the first time you smash a new mustang, freshly imported to be bullied by the blown Falcon that is hands down a better car.
;-)

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cashie

What's the big deal, any of us could have got in early if we were in the financial position to, and bought one at RRP..
We live in a capitalist economy and if individuals choose to "invest" in a GT-F good luck to them.. remember they still have to offset the funds that are tied up in the cars until they can find a buyer... Once the FG-X comes out, they may find their target audience shrinks, there is a gamble as per all business transactions/investments.

Really can't see them getting that for em. They are dreamin if they think they gonna sell a 3month old FPV for that price a month before the FGX comes out with more features!
Can see GT-F fetching a ******** in a decade or two with no km's though. Phase 3 HO type prices.
Be a hard life havin too much money lol

FGX-302 · 25-09-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XBv8mmm!

No, no price until the 3rd of October.
The deposit is fully refundable if the price is too high. He knows where the price needs to be for me, so if he actually wants the sale then he'll be open to some bargaining.
Like some here have said, I expect that it will be mid 50's plus on roads.

Would a few grand past your mark really make u turn away from the last V8 falcon??
I reckon anything under 60k drive away will be a steal.