New Ranger teaser vidz

[Franco Cozzo]

Everything seems to settle on that 0.70-0.60 range for its final overdrive ratio regardless if its ye olde 4sp auto, 5sp or 6sp manual boxes.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Fuel economy numbers have been released -

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...gures-released

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Quite Impressive figures really when you consider they're about as aerodynamic as a brick

[Vesper Martini]

Pleasing its come in under my 9L/100 prediction. with all that Torque it will still be economical towing too

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Everything seems to settle on that 0.70-0.60 range for its final overdrive ratio regardless if its ye olde 4sp auto, 5sp or 6sp manual boxes.

They could do what Holden did and put a 0.50 final drive but the car couldn't pull itself up any slope

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[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Not really the right place but thought as a new Ranger might be the end game I'd respond to this with an update.

You were right, it's not the right place, perhaps start another thread regarding repairs to Rangers?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Was it the repairer who didn't enter values for the roof re-skinning labour and supply or the insurer which altered the repairers quote before sending it onto you?

I'll start a new thread so as to not clog this up.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

You were right, it's not the right place, perhaps start another thread regarding repairs to Rangers?

Ok, can you move my two recent posts, Dr Smiths recent post and the one i originally quoted to the new thread I start please?

[vbomber]

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-extended-tray

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

I do query sometimes why manufacturers don’t fit the best gear to the vehicle because surely there would only be a couple of hundred bucks difference in the cost of the heavier trans when building.

two words. Development. Costs.

the 10R80 is a diesel gearbox designed to go behind the bi-turbo. the 10R60 is a petrol gearbox designed to go behind all the petrol engines from 2.3 upwards

if we had to develop a diesel application for the 10R60 in parallel - well, we just couldn't. The workload would be tremendous, and the gain would be tiny.

just as an aside - the 10R60 is controlled by an integrated PCM. the 10R80 has a stand alone TCM. They may look similar on paper, but those boxes are very different in reality.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by simon varley

two words. Development. Costs.

the 10R80 is a diesel gearbox designed to go behind the bi-turbo. the 10R60 is a petrol gearbox designed to go behind all the petrol engines from 2.3 upwards

if we had to develop a diesel application for the 10R60 in parallel - well, we just couldn't. The workload would be tremendous, and the gain would be tiny.

I find that strange as my little black German Taxi has the Benz 722.6 box, which is also used in all of these....

3 Special operating modes
3.1 Winter/Summer (Standard) Mode
3.2 Speedshift (2001-)
3.2.1 AMG Speedshift (2002-)
3.2.2 AMG Speedshift R
4 Applications
4.1 Mercedes models
4.1.1 Mercedes S-Class
4.1.2 Mercedes CL
4.1.3 Mercedes CLS
4.1.4 Mercedes E-Class
4.1.5 Mercedes C-Class
4.1.6 Mercedes CLK
4.1.7 Mercedes ML
4.1.8 Mercedes G-Class
4.1.9 Mercedes SLK
4.1.10 Mercedes SL
4.1.11 Mercedes SLR
4.1.12 Maybach
4.2 Non Mercedes-Benz models
4.2.1 Jeep
4.2.2 Dodge
4.2.3 Chrysler
4.2.4 Jaguar Supercharged models only
4.2.5 Ssangyong
4.2.6 Porsche 911
4.2.7 Freightliner

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by simon varley

two words. Development. Costs.

the 10R80 is a diesel gearbox designed to go behind the bi-turbo. the 10R60 is a petrol gearbox designed to go behind all the petrol engines from 2.3 upwards

if we had to develop a diesel application for the 10R60 in parallel - well, we just couldn't. The workload would be tremendous, and the gain would be tiny.

just as an aside - the 10R60 is controlled by an integrated PCM. the 10R80 has a stand alone TCM. They may look similar on paper, but those boxes are very different in reality.

Make 10R80, use in everything

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by vbomber

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-extended-tray

No one bothered to take some pics of the rear chassis?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

No one bothered to take some pics of the rear chassis?

Single Cab tray on a Duel Cab ?

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Single Cab tray on a Duel Cab ?

I don't think it would be that simple. It would have to have extended chassis as well I would think.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by simon varley

two words. Development. Costs.

the 10R80 is a diesel gearbox designed to go behind the bi-turbo. the 10R60 is a petrol gearbox designed to go behind all the petrol engines from 2.3 upwards

if we had to develop a diesel application for the 10R60 in parallel - well, we just couldn't. The workload would be tremendous, and the gain would be tiny.

just as an aside - the 10R60 is controlled by an integrated PCM. the 10R80 has a stand alone TCM. They may look similar on paper, but those boxes are very different in reality.

The 10R80 arrived long before the 10R60 which debuted in the Explorer, Super Duty diesels use 10R140

Chat boards were having arguments regarding strength of the 60 vs 80 but appreciate your technical input, the 60 being an advanced design. Mustang and F150 probably stick with 80 because long term supply contracts and no real need to switch to later gearboxes until major product cycle change.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't think it would be that simple. It would have to have extended chassis as well I would think.

Agree new extended frame and wheelbase too ?

[Vesper Martini]

From what I researched about the two transmission the there was nothing saying one was more robust than the other, but the 10R60 has ratios better suited to the petrol

and as Simon advised
the 10R60 is controlled by an integrated PCM. the 10R80 has a stand alone TCM.

so I don't think its about cost, its just better suited to the petrol and its integrated PCM

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Single Cab tray on a Duel Cab ?

Looks more like an extra cab tray.
But yeah, the chassis would have to be 300mm longer between the wheels.
You can get it done on most utes by a third party, but it's obviously cut and shut.

[vbomber]

They've arrived in Adelaide https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-f...-in-australia/

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by vbomber

They've arrived in Adelaide https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-f...-in-australia/

Glad to see my colour (Sedona Orange) in the flesh, makes me feel better.... Also stated in the article is the fact the better headlights (as part of the premium pack) are hard to get, which gels with what my dealer has now told me... If I ditch the premium pack, I may be able to get one sooner, if not I'll be waiting longer... I'm torn.. Couldn't care less about the headlights, but I do want the B&O Stereo... If only they could build it with the stereo and just give me the normal Wildtrak lights... lol

[vbomber]

Originally Posted by vbomber

They've arrived in Adelaide https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-f...-in-australia/

On facebook photos of a truck carrying them in Melbourne

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

From what I researched about the two transmission the there was nothing saying one was more robust than the other, but the 10R60 has ratios better suited to the petrol

and as Simon advised
the 10R60 is controlled by an integrated PCM. the 10R80 has a stand alone TCM.

so I don't think its about cost, its just better suited to the petrol and its integrated PCM

From Simon’s perspective, the 10R80 is the diesel gearbox as far as the Ranger is concerned but has been used before that on lots of F150s and Mustangs. The 10R60 debuted in the RWD Explorer and in particular the gearbox for the 3.0 EB intended as an upgraded unit that works better in the SUV but I would take that to mean most of the mid sized Fords, it’s just a better gearbox.

[Dr Smith]

So now a visit to Ikea Richmond could have more interest for occasional Ford prototypes....

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by vbomber

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-extended-tray

Interesting, thanks for the link
Photos are too large to show but long bed crew cab Ranger is going to be very useful to more than a few buyers…

https://images.carexpert.com.au/resi...-spypix-22.jpg

[nibble]

[Bossxr8]

And the Euro spec versions are down about 100 hp. Which is a huge drop.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

And the Euro spec versions are down about 100 hp. Which is a huge drop.

May as well just use the regular 2.7 EB with 240 Kw and 560 nm

[Blue_XR]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

And the Euro spec versions are down about 100 hp. Which is a huge drop.

Nothing a tune can't fix, unless warranty is a high priority for the Euro version

[vbomber]

New ranger at Berwick Ford https://www.instagram.com/p/CfasDnQJMbL/

[FPV8U]

The way my current dealer looks with an almost vacant front lot and show room I’m assuming a delivery is expected any day now.