Covid 19 -

[MITCHAY]

Always try to buy Aussie as much as is possible. I always buy Canberra milk every week.

Food ain't a problem here but the rest is another thing entirely.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Plenty of disregard for the newly-instituted regs on social distance and gatherings visible today on Eastern Road, Turramurra. Nil sign of any police or rangers.

HWP too busy going up and down to Newcastle and back revenue raising to be on those back roads
Good part of town, pensioners ?

I love Buy Australia but not easy anymore.
Think how many differing lines in Bunnings - would be aussie made ?
Not many.
Harvey Normans etcetcetc....
Sad.
Hopefully this virius is a window of opportunity for Australia to get some of its country back in the comign future.
Wake up pollies, get smarter.

[turbo4]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Always try to buy Aussie as much as is possible. I always buy Canberra milk every week.

Food ain't a problem here but the rest is another thing entirely.

I always try and buy australia, where possible.
I try to buy both Aus made and owned as a priority.

Also FYI, LION owns the controlling stake in Canberra Milk. LION is owned by the Japanese. Bega does own a 25% share, so it is a little bit Australian.
Riverina Fresh and Norco are both Australian.

[hawkgirl]

Aldi have started selling Norco milk


I dont know about anywhere else, but the Maccas south of wollongong are now selling 2 litre milk, english muffins & hamburger buns in the drive thru, for those not wanting to risk it & go to the supermarket

[oldel]

It's going to be a long road back for Australia if we wanted Australian manufacturing. It's been disappearing from 1980 - it took 40 years to go so it's not coming back quickly.

Business owners, government and the people have been OK with it going with the general belief that manufacturing doesn't suit our size, resources and other abilities. Everyone's been told to get a job in mining, trades, hospitality, tourism, retail, admin,clerical,it, business etc and leave the manufacturing to 3rd world companies for decades.

I'm surprised that the gov is throwing so much money out for welfare right now but they've never wanted to spend money on the australian secondary industry.
If you want to buy Australian your only guarantee is with primary produce (meat and veg). So much packaged good has moved to NZ! or even Europe rather than make jobs here. Since when did they have a higher ability than here?

If there's going to be a long recession with millions of unemployed then a think about secondary manufacturing by the gov needs to done. Do something about it for a change. Make more steel here and other end products rather than just export ore. Maybe do something about our water supplies. Hell annex the holden and ford factories and make some electric utes

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by turbo4

I always try and buy australia, where possible.
I try to buy both Aus made and owned as a priority.

Also FYI, LION owns the controlling stake in Canberra Milk. LION is owned by the Japanese. Bega does own a 25% share, so it is a little bit Australian.
Riverina Fresh and Norco are both Australian.

**** me no wonder we all confused about it all. But they still pump out the milk here though right?

[Franco Cozzo]

At least if you were going to kick off manufacturing again it can be started in a much more efficient setup rather than old factories and methodology.

[MITCHAY]

That is the marker. We are roughly at 18% of GDP in bailouts at the moment.

They doubled the dole where as before the debate was about about $50 or so bucks which to be fair would be structural budget issue where these measures have sunset clauses.

That's how you know **** is ****ed up when a conservative government is spending this much. A small budget surplus evaporated into a massive deficit. As far as I'm concerned as long as we can keep the unemployment rate under the rate of spending, that will be a win.

[nuthin' fancy]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

At least if you were going to kick off manufacturing again it can be started in a much more efficient setup rather than old factories and methodology.

And wtf would you know about that?

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[cheap]

Made in Australia is somewhat a false narrative.

Bundy Rum is made in Australia but who owns it and hence where goes it profit?

[Cav]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

And wtf would you know about that?

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EZY

Manufacturing?

Franco is a man and he likes facturing women, mostly.

[Cav]

Originally Posted by cheap

Made in Australia is somewhat a false narrative.

Bundy Rum is made in Australia but who owns it and hence where goes it profit?

Ah, lemme guess.

China?

[turbo4]

Originally Posted by Cav

Ah, lemme guess.

China?

It's owned by a British company. That company was acquired by the Chinese a few years ago though.
You just can't escape the Chinese, unfortunately.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

And wtf would you know about that?

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Old factories and methodology? I know much more than I'd like unfortunately

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by turbo4

It's owned by a British company. That company was acquired by the Chinese a few years ago though.
You just can't escape the Chinese, unfortunately.

yes some profits will go back to the parent company bundy rum

a part of the visy packaging co make plastic bottles and ally cans (you know the cool drink thingies) and we use to cart them from where they were made in WA or stored in WA to coke or schweppes (and yes i know they arnt australian either but the product is made here as well) and we use to cart jim beam and <whatever> cans to schweppes for them to make the pre mixers on behalf of the jim beam co
ok so some profits go to the parent co but as prices of the same stuff made here dont go up , it just chips away at how much of the profit doesnt stay here
oh and the can manufacturer was WA owned and do glass bottles for the drinking industry (seen bundy and beam bottles produced there my brother works for them)

[roddy1960]

Am I the only one or is anybody else going insane over the saturation of preaching by Federal and State Government people

WE GET IT....All they're going to do is drive us mad with frustration with ever more confusing restrictions and closures . Even within the 'rules' it's confusing not least with visiting of family members and such .

All they need to do is sent every household a few key rules to observe on what happens in writing should they be required to self isolate and penalties for breaches of that . Also some commonsense social distancing requirements outside of work and shopping etc needs for the rest of us which is the vast majority.

Also really important IMO is a more respectful acceptance that 99.9% of Australians do understand how dangerous this disease is.

Clearly spell out the penalties of basic rules breaches , but allow us some semblance of normality to use our brains while trying to cope with all of this .

PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

[cheap]

Living in Poverty
Domestic violence
More money for the arts
Social distancing
Flattening the curve
Support for backpackers

All worthy and we get the message BUT, there is SFA on the TV except endless sensational diatribe on nearly every channel. This morning my non-C19 viewing included: some crap gardening show, Tom and Jerry and MacGyver.

Now that the feds have gone total socialist mode, why don’t they instruct the TV channels to put some entertainment back on free to air! Or else reconsider the one slab of beer per day as it will not be enough to numb the boredom.

Note: at least I have a pool table and each night the family shoots pool for a few hours but that will wear off.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by cheap

why don’t they instruct the TV channels to put some entertainment back on free to air! Or else reconsider the one slab of beer per day as it will not be enough to numb the boredom..

you will be ok they are putting home and away back on next week, so all will be calm in the house again.

people will be able to get a dose of Alf and the river boys nightly, how good will that be.

[CoupeKing]

JFK's grandkids during lockdown

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I guess now isn't the time for me to come out of the closet as a non binary spaceship?

#LGBTQIA+SPACESHIPrights!!!!

That is so racist Big D...

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by DOC

you will be ok they are putting home and away back on next week, so all will be calm in the house again.

people will be able to get a dose of Alf and the river boys nightly, how good will that be.

As an Aussie living afar... possibly the best news in the thread!
(I thought the River boys were long gone though??)




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[Cav]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

As an Aussie living afar... possibly the best news in the thread!
(I thought the River boys were long gone though??)

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Hey wait a minute.

Who's that dumb ugly looking bloke with Alf?

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

As an Aussie living afar... possibly the best news in the thread!
(I thought the River boys were long gone though??)

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I think they died on their way to Wandin Valley or something.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

Am I the only one or is anybody else going insane over the saturation of preaching by Federal and State Government people

WE GET IT....All they're going to do is drive us mad with frustration with ever more confusing restrictions and closures . Even within the 'rules' it's confusing not least with visiting of family members and such .

All they need to do is sent every household a few key rules to observe on what happens in writing should they be required to self isolate and penalties for breaches of that . Also some commonsense social distancing requirements outside of work and shopping etc needs for the rest of us which is the vast majority.

Also really important IMO is a more respectful acceptance that 99.9% of Australians do understand how dangerous this disease is.

Clearly spell out the penalties of basic rules breaches , but allow us some semblance of normality to use our brains while trying to cope with all of this .

PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by prydey

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

Agreed, you constantly hear and see people make comparisons with the normal yearly flu season to down play the spread and mortality rate of COVID but what they fail to realise is that whilst the normal flu season does infect more and kill more people, it is allowed to spread freely amongst the population whereas COVID is only being kept in check by unprecedented social distancing measures.
If it was allowed the same opportunities to spread as the normal flu, it would be out of control already.

If you look at a world map which highlights the spread and level of outbreak you see that the majority of hard hit countries are just coming out of their Winter months, so the colder northern conditions would assist the virus. We're still on the tail end of a fairly warm, dry Summer/Autumn and so whilst our spread doesn't look anything like those in other regions, we're yet to experience the conditions which bring about our regular flu season.
We are probably lucky that its hit us when it did and not in 3 months as those maps could be quite different without the lead in we've had in Australia.

[buggerlugs]

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...2a4a8d10453e56

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

In our state, the wild west, we probably have the most relaxed rules regarding visiting family. It doesn't need to be essential, it can be for socialising, provided it's direct family and social distancing is practiced. So glad we dont live in a Police state like Pigtoria and NSW.

I don't accept your premise the virus is 'lethal'. Lethal to everyone? Not so, the statistics are proving this. I'm in my late 40's and have zero concern about catching it. I take my daily routine of Vit A, C and D, well above the RDI's ( which are BS), eath healthy, exercise and get sun light. Pretty much everything the government is not telling the public to do.

I'd like to think that those at risk do the right thing and stay at home and practice social isolation. It's the pandering to the minority and vulnerable that's caused the economy to crash. Pretty disgraceful by all accounts and some in MSM are beginning to discuss this. The government better have not over reacted and destroyed the economy based on the advice of false modelling and information from the bed wetters in health agencies. The WHO has proven time and time again to be the fraud organisation it is.

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

I can honestly say I haven't met anybody yet who doesn't care..Possible exception is little kids ,and only because they just don't comprehend it . My point is ...keep it simple . don't flood us with never ending facts and warnings because IMO that'll cause the sensory overload and the attitude in the finish that it's it all getting a bit much to pay any attention and switch off altogether. Not yet of course but what if this bombardment of stuff goes on for six months or more.? It's got to be handled with a lot of care and attention to prolonged periods of the inability to have something like a bit of normality . Can you see my long term concern in that regard ?

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Go outside and live your life... we are being played BIG TIME !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpFIPL8_tXY

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Agreed, you constantly hear and see people make comparisons with the normal yearly flu season to down play the spread and mortality rate of COVID but what they fail to realise is that whilst the normal flu season does infect more and kill more people, it is allowed to spread freely amongst the population whereas COVID is only being kept in check by unprecedented social distancing measures.
If it was allowed the same opportunities to spread as the normal flu, it would be out of control already.

I was like WTF.. until I realised you both have the same username!
Two members with Bent 8 as their UN, but with views at opposite ends of the spectrum.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

I can honestly say I haven't met anybody yet who doesn't care..Possible exception is little kids ,and only because they just don't comprehend it . My point is ...keep it simple . don't flood us with never ending facts and warnings because IMO that'll cause the sensory overload and the attitude in the finish that it's it all getting a bit much to pay any attention and switch off altogether. Not yet of course but what if this bombardment of stuff goes on for six months or more.? It's got to be handled with a lot of care and attention to prolonged periods of the inability to have something like a bit of normality . Can you see my long term concern in that regard ?

I get where you're coming from Roddy, but its up to the individual how much they let in.
From my own perspective I was captivated by it to a certain degree, in the beginning I was watching every announcement made and the Fox COVID channel was on constantly, I've since toned it down a bit as much of it is either irrelevant to my part of the country or the same old stuff on a loop.
My Wife was over it after a week, every time she saw the COVID channel on she'd roll her eyes and walk out of the room.
I guess that's the beauty of choice, for those who want to keep up 24/7 theres a dedicated channel and for those who don't you just switch off, its easier with Fox, especially since they've opened up all their channels for no extra cost.
I think so long as someone in you're close knit group is keeping up to date with the changes which have certainly slowed down in the last week or so, then you can keep informed without the saturation.