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Old 03-01-2023, 04:34 PM   #1111
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It's the implementation of their designs since about 1970 however...
Thomas Hardy would put the decline right back to where you started - the Industrial Revolution.
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Indeed; as would J.R.R.Tolkien.

Go further Citroenbender - it starts with the Enclosure Acts and the taking of the commons.
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Off topic - this was hard to find, but a worthy read.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020925...usg/landls.htm

explains everything, the terrible dispossession of the people from their land, the wandering, the accumulation in the cities (and thus what to do with them? Industrial revolution, schooling, having to wear peaky blinders, football lol )- and even convicts who were catching game on their common lands... people replaced with sheep. Huge incarceration rates, the prisons fill up, the hulks on the rivers fill up, what can we do? Hello settlement of Australia as a convict colony, and the dispossession of the blackfellas...

Common land replaced with titled land, we can all have a bit of the title world today and yes we can benefit from this, but this whole system rests on top of a more ancient way of doing things that got swept under the rug. It's particularly important today when house (title) prices have gone to such highs vs what average/median wages are. Imagine just being born, doing your trade, not having to worry about any of that housing BS in your village as there was common land and ancestral homes...

Rant off, but that's the foundation of the modern world we live in!
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It was Big Business back in the day Binning the V12 & fitting a 350 Chev in them..!!
When I was at high school, a guy had a 1980's XJ as his first car. The guys father was a mechanic and ripped out the Jaguar engine and replaced it with a SOHC Falcon 4.0 in it instead. So, sexy Jaguar styling with Ford inline 6 reliability.
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For design, they have greatness and are visionary - think original XK engines, original Range Rover concept, E-Type, the Land Rover postwar, the P6, Sir Alec Issigonis' original mini; hell even the Spitfire, the Lusitania & Mauretania, the steam engine, the whole industrial revolution...

It's the implementation of their designs since about 1970 however...
The distinct British Class system & the Unions Sticking It to the MAN ruined British Industry...IMHO
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Spot on, its the budget to see the quality through to the end that was and still is the problem.
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The distinct British Class system & the Unions Sticking It to the MAN ruined British Industry...IMHO
I was going to say something along those lines. During that period the unions were going nuts, workers were actively sabotaging product, strikes were rampant and i think even the communists were trying to infiltrate industry.

Not a positive era for any form of quality or output.
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Passed lots of Trailer Queens today northbound on the Hume.
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Old 04-01-2023, 04:27 PM   #1119
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Summernats time again
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Umm no, guess where he is right now.
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Umm no, guess where he is right now.
Keep up Gaso, meaning I wonder why he didn't already have a ride organized. I know how much he likes PT.
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Haven't seen any XD Falcons lately but spotted these for sale on marketplace in Shepparton. I think they need saving. (not by me)





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Pulled up behind this thing the other day,drove one many moons ago and hated it but in fairness havent seen one for a long time so fits in thread.
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I reckon a lot more would be saved if sellers weren’t talking such rediculous money for something that just is not worth the asking price.Those Falcons if they could be bought for a few hundred bucks would be good projects,but I have seen sellers adverting similiar or worse junk for thousands then wonder why they don’t sell.There is an old datsun ute on market place for hundres of dollars where in reality it is a give away
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I reckon a lot more would be saved if sellers weren’t talking such rediculous money for something that just is not worth the asking price.Those Falcons if they could be bought for a few hundred bucks would be good projects,but I have seen sellers adverting similiar or worse junk for thousands then wonder why they don’t sell.There is an old datsun ute on market place for hundres of dollars where in reality it is a give away
Some good buying still around hidden amongst the greed.
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Broncos and f series trucks. Although they do come up for sale.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/cher...rbo/1305579248
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Followed a nicely kept bog stock (looking) red windowless Holden Belmont panel van through town this morning. V8 sounded great and the crowning glory being on old full rego plates.
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V8 in a Belmont?
They were the base most basic model Holden werent they? All 6s?
Maybe was fitted later in life.
Old family friend used to have one.
Was an ex ambo with a third door behind front passenger door. Thats where I used to sit amongst all the rubbish this guy collected. You wouldnt believe what was in there...his shed and house were the same.
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They were the base most basic model Holden werent they? All 6s?
Maybe was fitted later in life.
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I have seen a Option List from back then. .it was almost endless.!!
If you were prepared to wait. You could tick any Option box you liked.
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They were the base most basic model Holden werent they? All 6s?
Is that right........Here I go again dragging this HX price list out. HJ and HZ were similar options.
Muirs gave me these when my old man bought a new Holden car or truck every year.

Belmonts were available with a V8 option starting at around $153. Both 253 and 308 were available.
In fact all Sandmans were Belmonts and not Kingswoods as so many think, that along with never being a 14 CWT weight van and side windows never being factory installed on Sandmans.

Note the price of the LE @ around $11 000 geeze I wish I could have bought a couple.




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Like this one:, spotted last year, at my local exhaust place,



And cringe, looking how close to that brick column it is
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Like this one:, spotted last year, at my local exhaust place,

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My heart goes in my mouth, when I look how close to the wall it is
Very nice but not really impressed when I see stuff on club plates, full rego on he other hand tells me its been constantly registered most of its life in its working clothes.
Still a great example.
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Still a great example.
Yeah but the club rego is a decent cost saving and means lower running costs if you want more toys. Its just a plate.
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Is that right........Here I go again dragging this HX price list out. HJ and HZ were similar options.
Muirs gave me these when my old man bought a new Holden car or truck every year.

Belmonts were available with a V8 option starting at around $153. Both 253 and 308 were available.
In fact all Sandmans were Belmonts and not Kingswoods as so many think, that along with never being a 14 CWT weight van and side windows never being factory installed on Sandmans.

Note the price of the LE @ around $11 000 geeze I wish I could have bought a couple.

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Another interesting gem the dealer gave me as a kid was this book.

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I worked at Muirs motors at Ashfield when i was a 16yo kid, 53 years ago washing cars and working in the lube bay.Was a good job back then, i got to drive all the cars. Hahaha.
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Yeah but the club rego is a decent cost saving and means lower running costs if you want more toys. Its just a plate.
Not what I was talking about.
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I worked at Muirs motors at Ashfield when i was a 16yo kid, 53 years ago washing cars and working in the lube bay.Was a good job back then, i got to drive all the cars. Hahaha.
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An early model Lotus Esprit. And get this, it was towing a trailer.

Wouldn’t even have thought you’d be able to get a towbar for it.
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Wouldn’t even have thought you’d be able to get a towbar for it.
did you actually see a tow ball? might have been tied onto rear bumper... just a thought
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