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06-06-2020, 06:36 AM | #91 | |||
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And China has issued a travel advisory for Australia. Are they taking the ****?
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06-06-2020, 07:23 AM | #92 | ||
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Well, we're not surprised, are we(?) China keeping the pressure on Australia for stepping out of line over the Covid-19 outbreak. At least they are consistent.
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06-06-2020, 07:48 AM | #93 | |||
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Stay the course. If we are ****ing them off we must be doing something right. If they had their house in order the rest of the world wouldn't even have a Covid-19 problem at all |
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06-06-2020, 10:45 AM | #94 | |||
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He now lives in the US. He started off with the positives of China when he first started, then started to report on the problems and negatives. He was the very victim of much of what he reported is wrong with China. Of course, many Chinese said he was very wrong while many more Chinese were openly hunting him down with the purpose of harming or killing him. All openly publicised online for all to see....
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06-06-2020, 03:40 PM | #95 | |||
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wtf ... how many world leaders listened to what was going on & made appropriate decisions with regards to travellers of any country entering another?. the two biggest faaarkups that spring to mind are the UK [herd immunity 1st off so no testing of travellers etc] then they had panic stations when their prime minister finally fully understood what was going to happen. & USA [again similarish to uk] blocked chinese nationals [china up in arms? as well as WHO] again no testing of any incoming people, then very slow responding to the pandemic [except el presidenta saying it will blow over!]. so now USA has 100,000 odd dead [with a president who gives not one iota] etc etc then Aus letting the Ruby Rose [& others] enter australian ports without proper procedure to disembark it's passengers!! some without proper testing china fumbled yes in more ways than one because of their parties views/controls [main was censoring their own doctors reporting problems] . but the rest of the world knew something was coming .... and did little to control the spread. my understanding |
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06-06-2020, 04:02 PM | #96 | ||
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Does this mean I won't be receiving anymore spam emails from Chinese quarries insisting I buy containers of granite ?
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06-06-2020, 07:29 PM | #97 | ||||
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I received a recorded voicemail in mandarin 2 days ago. No idea what it said, but they gave a phone number at the end. I assume its some sort of scam. Quote:
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06-06-2020, 07:34 PM | #98 | |||
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06-06-2020, 07:43 PM | #99 | ||
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[QUOTE=T3rminator;6450261] I received a recorded voicemail in mandarin 2 days ago. No idea what it said, but they gave a phone number at the end. I assume its some sort of scam./QUOTE]
Been around a while that one. Chinese lady was telling you (in chinese) that you owe tax and if you pay now by credit card you can avoid jail. Because it has been going a while I assume it must be working often enough to be profitable. |
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07-06-2020, 09:30 AM | #100 | ||
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I'm not a massive fan of our current mob in Canberra but I appreciate now how they've handled co-ordinating the States handling of the pandemic to date evidenced by the really low fatalities . Helps too with a bit of bi-partisan support through it all ..
The new tougher foreign takeover rules for me is "it's about time " . I hope that this flows into trade as well and we take a more pragmatic look at how we trade with China as a part of that ....if it ever happens . I reckon that when the day comes that our mineral resources are exhausted which makes up a big chunk of our trade with China , without safeguards for other trade resources they'll wipe us like a dirty bum . Given the threat from them with big tariffs on barley and other produce we are already finding vunerable we are trading with an angry China mostly on the back of supporting an investigation into the virus outbreak . it's probably time we show them we have a few teeth too and will not be bullied into agreeing with them on everything . After all it's still our country and not China's or anybody else's yet . |
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07-06-2020, 09:45 AM | #101 | |||
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08-06-2020, 06:06 PM | #102 | ||
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Well it looks like our chinese friends are feeling a bit neglected with all the media attention turning to the US riots. More"warnings"...
https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...1da689f8358026 The uncomfortable truth is that the chinese government has previously actively promoted Australia as a destination for tourism. With that cut off, and potential international students, its going to hurt a bit. Also looks like the US has gone full retard on Germany with them not towing their line. Germany is set to take on the presidency of the EU in July. Dumb move at a time when you need more allies. Alarm bells has to be ringing, especially when fellow NATO members were not consulted. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...draw-us-troops Finally, did anyone listen to Collin Powell's full interview? A bit of it was spent on the China strategy. Interesting take. He said China should not be seen as their enemy, but they are a very big "problem". Same with Russia, Iran and North Korea. (funny, he said something about a group in Africa being the "enemy"). But he is concerned that the current administration will turn China into an enemy. He said during his time, they always had strong disagreements with China, but he could always pick up the phone and respectfully voice their views. Hmmmmmm What does this have to do with Australia? If you read all the media coverage in the last 3 months, and all the narrative from our pollies, it very much looks like we are portraying them as the enemy. They weren't even taking phone calls at one stage. Interesting times. |
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09-06-2020, 06:21 PM | #103 | |||
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09-06-2020, 06:54 PM | #104 | |||
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09-06-2020, 07:25 PM | #105 | |||
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"Good" you say...who is going to fill the gap in this $19b sector? How is this in Australia's best interest? Do you think universities are holding these places just for the Chinese, and that Indians will start flooding in? Work out how much it costs foreigners to come study here and you'll know why India won't fill the gap. So, what does (or did) Australia get out of this? |
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10-06-2020, 07:11 AM | #106 | |||
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10-06-2020, 08:27 AM | #107 | ||
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I would encourage that China recruits as many Aussie SJW, left-leaning, anti-establishment, tree-hugging uni-lecturers as is possible, and have them relocated into China.
These inspirational people can then brain-wash the Chinese youngsters and subvert the CCP. The only downside is that we'd have about a short-term 99% vacancy in Aussie lecturers. |
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10-06-2020, 11:41 AM | #108 | |||
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Seriously, the less Chinese students we have here stealing IP and going back to their CCP masters to further their cause, the better. |
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10-07-2020, 11:15 PM | #109 | ||
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It's been a while but there has been a couple of developments the last couple of days. Extending visas for HK and ripping up the the extradition treaty with HK.
I agree with both. But of course China is ****ed off. We will be punished! What gets me is they are arguing breaches of international law against us which may well be true for all I know. But these are the same dickheads who were beat on the South China Sea and didn't give a **** about it so it seems a joke. They have no allies of any weight, so let's keep on going. I like that we kept our spine so far. Which actually surprises me |
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10-07-2020, 11:49 PM | #110 | ||
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Breaches of international law won’t worry scomo. Australia has pretty good form at ignoring international law when it suits.
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11-07-2020, 12:14 AM | #111 | |||
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If **** goes hot, those islands will be the first to be obliterated. The CCP are ****ing the world off and at some point a line has to be drawn in the sand. |
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11-07-2020, 07:56 AM | #112 | ||
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Funny you say they have allies with no weight, yet they are accused of running the UN and WHO.
Who did the world rely on to tame North Korea when they were getting a bit out of control? Students stealing IP? How? They come to learn what we teach. If our unis are giving away IP then we have bigger probs. Aussie students studying overseas then coming back to apply their skills.... Is that stealing IP too? My guess is that IP theft is mainly done through reverse engineering, not at uni. Have a look at John Pilgers documentary called The Coming War On China. That might open your eyes on why they are doing what they are doing in the scs. Every action has a reaction. Also, the biggest builders of island in scs isn't China. But you don't hear about the other mob do you? That mob has terrorists that go over to nearby countries, kidnap their citizens, and kill them if ransoms are not met, over and over again, but you don't hear about they do you? I come from one of those countries and I would gladly have Chinese military presence to deter such behaviour, even if it is not the intended objective. All I know is that in 2018, we had a good trading partner. We didn't always see eye to eye but there was at least some level of respect, even after what Turnbull had done with Huawei. In 2019, our puppet master started an economic and technological war, and overnight we made China our enemy. Follow the money trail. Obsolete submarines that was going to cost $80b has blown out to $240b. On top of that we are going to spend $260b to point some missiles at our largest trading partner. This is the kind of policy spending that crippled the US social system. Good luck to our kids and grandkids.
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11-07-2020, 08:49 AM | #113 | ||
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Do you mind sharing who the biggest island builder in SCS is.
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11-07-2020, 09:27 AM | #114 | ||
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I believe the Philipines. There is website tracking the islands in that area. Yes China is building big ones, but by number the phillipinee has the most. Not sure if that includes dredging though.
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11-07-2020, 09:50 AM | #115 | ||
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China’s over reach is far greater than just the disputed south China seas... the bri is their purpose built strategy to dominate lesser economies, and gain leverage all over the world.
We have maybe 10-15 years to go before China is militarily able to go toe to toe with the west. It’s gonna get real if we get to that stage. |
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11-07-2020, 10:44 AM | #116 | ||
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What’s with the chinese apologist? No clue at all.
Over 1 million chinese muslims in internment camps, with stories coming out of torture, rape and forced sterilisation. Basically genocide. Of course the UN turns a blind eye. |
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11-07-2020, 10:49 AM | #117 | ||
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I'd welcome HK refugees into Melbourne in large numbers:
A) They tend to be educated B) They share Western values C) They mostly speak English D) They hate Beijing/CCP Rather have a tonne of Hong Kongers over Sudos/Somalis any day of the week. If you're going to take in refugees, Hong Kongers are the perfect fit for our society. |
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11-07-2020, 10:55 AM | #118 | |||
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I’d love to know if the uk/china handover agreement had any type of enforcement/penalty for not following the rules of the deal? Could the UK ever take hong back because china shat all over the rules of the agreement? |
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11-07-2020, 11:55 AM | #119 | |||
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11-07-2020, 12:00 PM | #120 | ||
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I like to look at both sides, so if that makes me an apologist then so be it.
BRI - Australia like to slag it off but won't shut the door in participating in other countries BRI mmmmm. Where is the credibility? There are probably hundreds (maybe thousands?) of projects going on, 120+ countries have signed up, a handful have gone sour. The Sri Lankan port is one that gets brought up over and over again. Yes they made a bad deal and they had to pay for it. Either default on your loan or strike another deal. Up to you. Each country decides whether projects are in their best interest. A bit arrogant for us to judge other nation's decisions. Yes a lot of those countries that have signed up are not "well off"...you gotta ask why...then ask why they are signing up. I know its a wild theory, but maybe they think its for the benefit of their country. They are not pointing missiles or imposing sanctions at those countries forcing them to sign. HK - In March there were something like 27 applications to Australia. In April there were something like 15. Numbers likely to grow given the Scomo's recent announcement, but don't expect millions. According to a relative living in HK, the protestors are young adults who have felt neglected by the government for a long long time. It was brewing and the extradition law proposal tipped it off....with a bit of outside encouragement of course. Generally speaking the protestors are from poorer backgrounds and struggling. They are not your 1 in 7 millionaires. I think its fantastic the UK and AUS are offering a safe haven, that's putting money where your mouth is. I think UK will see a large uptake given the historical ties, not sure about here though. Question...will border force allow those with criminal records to enter? |
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