According to Drive Ranger XL and XLS are not selling?

[barra240t]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

Considering the popularity of the PX right up to the end, even with it being an old model, surely they should or seen it coming with the new one…..

As you say, I bet there will be quite a few wildtrak orders that will be converted to platinum…. And I hope it’s true, and I can get my wildtrak with pp earlier than mid 2023 lol… a bloke can dream


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I can tell you Platinum is already creating a buzz, lot of enquiry and orders put down since the news came out.

[PG2]

If people continue to convert their orders from Wildtrak to Platinum is Ford going to convert some of the build numbers from Wildtrak over to Platinum?

[barra240t]

Originally Posted by PG2

If people continue to convert their orders from Wildtrak to Platinum is Ford going to convert some of the build numbers from Wildtrak over to Platinum?

It will be up to the dealer on what they do with their allocations regarding free'ed up Wildtrak.

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

I would have liked the Platinum Ranger to get rear coils from Everset/Raptor to provide a ride/handling closer to Everest but without the full on jumping capability of Raptor. And if you need max towing ability you stick with Wildtrak.

This and the option of the 3L Ecoboost would have been a great addition.

I’d love a Ranger Raptor but I’m pretty sure my wife would be much keener on a Platinum presentation wise than a RR for a daily.

Same goes for the Everest you don’t need a full “Raptor Spec” version to have interest in that engine.

[Bossxr8]

Well i've bitten the bullet and ordered a Wildtrak V6 with premium pack and 20 inch wheel option. May switch the order early next year to something else that is on the way though, depending on where they position and price it. Going to be a long wait though, as waiting times for Wildtrak V6 have blown out to at least 12 months.

[Franco Cozzo]

Who the hell would buy the 79 series over the Raptor.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Who the hell would buy the 79 series over the Raptor.

The sort that excuse that pathetic excuse of a diesel V8 as "under-stressed"......

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

The sort that excuse that pathetic excuse of a diesel V8 as "under-stressed"......

Even the part where they get under both cars and have a look, the 79 series looks like a Thailand Special in comparison to how the Raptor is built

Its good to see people taking the **** out of the 79 series with how ridiculous that absolute clown show is for the price of it.

Like if it was $40K DA fair enough, but $83K + ORC for povvo spec?

[Vekgib]

Guess I better not tell anyone on AFF that I'm buying a 76 series. They might laugh at me.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Vekgib

Guess I better not tell anyone on AFF that I'm buying a 76 series. They might laugh at me.

You have my sympathies........

[Vekgib]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

You have my sympathies........

Why would I need them ?

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even the part where they get under both cars and have a look, the 79 series looks like a Thailand Special in comparison to how the Raptor is built

Its good to see people taking the **** out of the 79 series with how ridiculous that absolute clown show is for the price of it.

Like if it was $40K DA fair enough, but $83K + ORC for povvo spec?

You know, I think you and me would get along like a house on fire in real life.

I get the love for a 70 Series, kinda like me buying the last of the Victa 2-Strokes, the idea that they are simple, hard working mowers. However, as you say at $40K, a 70 Series has merit. But Toyota are simply taking the pi.s with what they ask for them.

[prydey]

I don't think we'll see a Raptor with a 50cal mounted in the back of it any time soon..

Some 79 customers want something simple and easy to fix if it breaks

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't think we'll see a Raptor with a 50cal mounted in the back of it any time soon..

Some 79 customers want something simple and easy to fix if it breaks

I don't think I would call a turbocharged diesel V8 simple though.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Who the hell would buy the 79 series over the Raptor.

I dunno, someone with a 2.6t boat or caravan maybe?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't think we'll see a Raptor with a 50cal mounted in the back of it any time soon..

Some 79 customers want something simple and easy to fix if it breaks

They take a sarcastic shot at exactly what you just said in that clip

Don't get me wrong, I understand the sentiment entirely, but that 4.5L TD V8 isn't exactly simple and it's rather fragile, especially with poor quality diesel and even without poor fuel, the fuel delivery side of it are prone to dramas - it's the same as any modern diesel engine.

I've had to fix a couple of these things for injectors, and they're not cheap it's circa $10K for the set before you even put them in.

I reckon they're trading on reputation they built up in the 1980s/1990s with their utes, the last good engine they had was the 1HD-FTE.

Though I wouldn't mind a 79 series with a 6sp manual and the Toyota 3UR-FE unleaded V8 that the Lexus LX570 variation of the 200 series has - 284KW/543NM.

Franco's Widowmaker

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

I dunno, someone with a 2.6t boat or caravan maybe?

Then buy V6 Diesel Ranger, it also makes more power and torque.

It's probably cheaper too that's the sad part.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Then buy V6 Diesel Ranger, it also makes more power and torque.

It's probably cheaper too that's the sad part.

No doubt, but the question was who'd buy a 79 over a Raptor.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

No doubt, but the question was who'd buy a 79 over a Raptor.

Alright, lets rephrase the question to remove confusion

Who'd buy a 79 series over the new Ranger in an equivalent price bracket

In that clip they **** can the tyres the Raptor comes with, Ford should offer a no cost option when you buy the Raptor with highway tyres.

Or even a 'street package' which does away with all the jumping over sand dunes stuff and makes a road/track focused car.

Road/track package Thailand Special, now we've seen everything

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

They take a sarcastic shot at exactly what you just said in that clip
l

Ha. Classic.

I'm at work. I'll watch it when I get home. Might send it to some people I know who are rusted on 70 series tragics.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Who the hell would buy the 79 series over the Raptor.

83k for a pov spec 79 series, wow. Reminds me of my old L300. Wind your windows, lock your doors, move your mirrors by hand. But it is the deffinition of ute. Utility. Only reason it has anything safety is to comply with minimum safety standards. Love it. Not 83k love it though.
Cant see many people buying a pov pack 79 as a personal car. Maybe farmers or people with large properties. Maybe mining companies will buy them for fleets.
I see plenty of the new raptors around. Thing is though, just like sr5 hi luxs and the like, they will never see even a dirt road, tow a trailer or have anything more then the weekly shopping in the tray or maybe a laptop bag. They are a ute, but getting up there in price towards that of a luxury car. So majority of buyers are middle aged men who want to say 'yeah, i own a ute' but heaven forbid it gets a scratch on it.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't think we'll see a Raptor with a 50cal mounted in the back of it any time soon..

Some 79 customers want something simple and easy to fix if it breaks

I want 79 series Land Cruiser

Mum: WE HAVE 79 SERIES LAND CRUISER AT HOME!

79 series Land Cruiser at home:

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/...9465087692800?

Who had Mitsubishi Triton MLRS on their bingo card

Was a rocket pod salvaged from a downed Russian KA52 Helicopter and stuck on the back of a Triton.

[Dr Smith]

OMFG....we had a 1970's blue Nissan E20 Urvan that looks the same vintage as this 2022 Toyota....the interior door trim, door card, door locks....the absolute maximum 10cm from external door skin to your the elbow inside...I had a DeJa'Vu flashback/nightmare....getting dropped off at high school when it was raining heavily and asking dad to park a block away and he always refused....and then praying for no rainy days for the rest of the school year....

those quarter vent front windows however were a pleasant memory jog of our 1970 XW Falcon 500 wagon....in green of course...

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even the part where they get under both cars and have a look, the 79 series looks like a Thailand Special in comparison to how the Raptor is built

Its good to see people taking the **** out of the 79 series with how ridiculous that absolute clown show is for the price of it.

Like if it was $40K DA fair enough, but $83K + ORC for povvo spec?

Someone will take the market from them.

Might even have a wheel track that matches front and back.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Someone will take the market from them.

Might even have a wheel track that matches front and back.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

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It's probably more technologically advanced than the 79

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Someone will take the market from them.

Might even have a wheel track that matches front and back.

Agrale Marrua would be a good shoe in for 79 series if Safescape pulled their finger out and thought volume rather than niche market.

https://www.safescape.com/vehicles/agrale-marrua

https://www.trucksales.com.au/editor...or-aus-118570/

The AM300 single cab is a decent sized ute:

https://www.agrale.com.br/userfiles/...1456432668.jpg







Drum brakes on the rear - Brazillian Special

I see the Safescape spec one has the bigger Cummins F3.8 engine rather than the 2.8L the AM300 has on its spec sheet, maybe out of date website.

https://www.cummins.com/engines/f38-stage-v

Its down a bit on power but up heaps on torque in comparison to Toyota's junk 4.5L V8.

Hits all the points that the 79 series crowd likes aside from the Toyota badge.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Agrale Marrua would be a good shoe in for 79 series if Safescape pulled their finger out and thought volume rather than niche market.

https://www.safescape.com/vehicles/agrale-marrua

https://www.trucksales.com.au/editor...or-aus-118570/

The AM300 single cab is a decent sized ute:

https://www.agrale.com.br/userfiles/...1456432668.jpg

image

image

image

Drum brakes on the rear - Brazillian Special

I see the Safescape spec one has the bigger Cummins F3.8 engine rather than the 2.8L the AM300 has on its spec sheet, maybe out of date website.

https://www.cummins.com/engines/f38-stage-v

Its down a bit on power but up heaps on torque in comparison to Toyota's junk 4.5L V8.

Hits all the points that the 79 series crowd likes aside from the Toyota badge.

Yeah but look at it

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah but look at it

Designed with a 15cm ruler and a crayon

Thats what those VDJ79 people love though

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah but look at it

Plus the 110KW Cummins powerhouse