Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > Non Ford Related Community Forums > The Bar

The Bar For non Automotive Related Chat

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 27-02-2022, 08:19 PM   #91
FairmontGS
WT GT
Donating Member3
 
FairmontGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The GSS
Posts: 17,773
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by zilo View Post
Just watching ABC news...2 minutes 25 seconds on the war in Ukraine.

3 minutes on womens football and netball.
1 minutes on mens A league.

yep...am all caught up on world affairs now.

Maybe in VicDanistan, in The GSS Ukraine led the ABC 7:30 pm and got nearly 9 minutes of coverage.
FairmontGS is offline  
Old 27-02-2022, 08:29 PM   #92
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,660
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by PG2 View Post
Guys and Gals

Gaso and I have started deleting posts.


If this thread keeps heading in the same direction, guess what happens next?
You might as well close the topic as those Pesky Rusky saboteurs are in full swing here.
Itsme is offline  
3 users like this post:
Old 27-02-2022, 08:50 PM   #93
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

yep i second the motion , close it now unfortunately its already tainted and broken
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 27-02-2022, 08:53 PM   #94
mad2
Regular...with metamusal
Donating Member2
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Geeeloong
Posts: 6,570
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
yep i second the motion , close it now unfortunately its already tainted and broken

going ............... going .................................................. gone
mad2 is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 05:17 AM   #95
Trevor 57
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Trevor 57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,752
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

why do you want it closed? Because some people aren't mature enough to debate a catastrophe

Why should the ones that are contributing maturely be punished?

Leave the thread open and delete the posts by people who aren't being mature


This unprovoked attack on Ukraine could be the start of something much bigger and we need to talk about it - making a mockery of stuff not related is just childish, making a mockery of the invasion is just childish - this is the stuff history is made of and we need to discuss it
__________________
I reserve the right to arm bears
Trevor 57 is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 06:47 AM   #96
hackney
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
hackney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: A.C.T
Posts: 1,606
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

EU has now banned ALL Russian aircraft from EU airspace.24hr Flight radar is very interesting to watch.It is going to get to a stage were all Russian aircraft are going to be going nowhere.
__________________
2022 Honda HRV e:HEV in Premium crystal red.

Last edited by hackney; 28-02-2022 at 06:53 AM.
hackney is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 07:22 AM   #97
FairmontGS
WT GT
Donating Member3
 
FairmontGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The GSS
Posts: 17,773
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

A good source for what's happening on the ground in Kiev.

https://kyivindependent.com/
FairmontGS is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 08:35 AM   #98
Trevor 57
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Trevor 57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,752
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

The talk of nuclear tells me that Putin under-estimated the Ukraine push back

It is scary **** when you have a world leader threatening nuclear attacks - he needs to be taken out

In case anyone is wondering this is what a dictatorship looks like
__________________
I reserve the right to arm bears
Trevor 57 is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 08:37 AM   #99
hackney
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
hackney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: A.C.T
Posts: 1,606
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor 57 View Post
The talk of nuclear tells me that Putin under-estimated the Ukraine push back

It is scary **** when you have a world leader threatening nuclear attacks - he needs to be taken out

In case anyone is wondering this is what a dictatorship looks like
Be careful what you wish for.Sometimes it is better the devil you know,than the one you don’t.Interesting days ahead.
__________________
2022 Honda HRV e:HEV in Premium crystal red.
hackney is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 10:01 AM   #100
Mulva
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 604
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Can I give you a tow...



Mulva is offline  
4 users like this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 10:32 AM   #101
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,918
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Peace talk brokered by Belarus? Ukraine and Russian delegates to meet at the Belarus border. Hopefully something can be struck. AFF armchair analyst thinks maybe the Russians seize control of the east, Kiev to remain neutral and to give the Russian a buffer between "the west" and their border. It does not appear the Russians want to annihilate Ukraine, otherwise Kiev would have been flattened already? Sticking point might be the Ukraine president, the Russians think he is a puppet of the US and want him gone. He won't go.

If a deal is struck, will all the sanctions and boycotts remain in place?

I find it interesting that countries can just freeze billions in assets of people who have connections with the Russian president, even though they had no involvement in any decisions or actions.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 10:37 AM   #102
xkxlxm
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 575
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

I heard a US spokesperson this morning, criticising Putin for "manufacturing threats that don't exist in order to justify further aggression".

Isn't that exactly what we (USA, UK and Australia and a couple of other deputy sheriff wannabes) did post 9-11 when we wanted to attack Iraq? Iraq was a long, long way away from the countries that attacked it and represented absolutely zero threat to them.

Sorry, but I can't help pointing out western hypocrisy. We pretend that we are different but we are just the same.
xkxlxm is offline  
3 users like this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 10:46 AM   #103
FairmontGS
WT GT
Donating Member3
 
FairmontGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The GSS
Posts: 17,773
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by T3rminator View Post
Peace talk brokered by Belarus? Ukraine and Russian delegates to meet at the Belarus border. Hopefully something can be struck. AFF armchair analyst thinks maybe the Russians seize control of the east, Kiev to remain neutral and to give the Russian a buffer between "the west" and their border.
It's a possibility that they occupy all lands east of The Dnieper and create a "friendly" Ukraine, a new East Germany.

Quote:
Originally Posted by T3rminator View Post
I find it interesting that countries can just freeze billions in assets of people who have connections with the Russian president, even though they had no involvement in any decisions or actions.
That's the point I guess - annoy and inconvenience people so that they apply pressure to Putin to give it away. A lot of his power base comes from the continuing support of these oligarchs.
FairmontGS is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 10:55 AM   #104
zilo
BANNED
 
zilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Putin getting nuclear ready has nothing to do with Ukraine, they don't have any nuclear weapons.

Sounds to me like Putin feels a nuclear threat from NATO.

Nothing to do with dictatorship...and suggesting he be assasinated, that will definitely start a nuclear fest.
__________________
Please press the "Like" button if you enjoy my posts.

(It's the red triangle with exclamation mark on the left)
zilo is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 12:35 PM   #105
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by zilo View Post
Putin getting nuclear ready has nothing to do with Ukraine, they don't have any nuclear weapons.

Sounds to me like Putin feels a nuclear threat from NATO.

Nothing to do with dictatorship...and suggesting he be assasinated, that will definitely start a nuclear fest.
Putin said recently that they have no reservations using nuclear weapons as a first strike attack.

Previously (the last 60 years) they use to say they would only use it if they were used on them first.

We should be worried about this fact.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 01:07 PM   #106
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,918
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

RT has gone offline on Foxtel. I think there has been a ban on all media sites owned by Russia. Strange, cos 99% of the commentators on there seem to be Americans.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 04:42 PM   #107
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,005
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
Putin said recently that they have no reservations using nuclear weapons as a first strike attack.

and do what with them?

Annihilate the cities he wants to annex?
Create Nuclear Fallout right on Russia's doorstep?
Crazy Dazz is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 04:47 PM   #108
Crazy Dazz
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Perth, Northern Suburbs
Posts: 5,005
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

The National Bank of Ukraine has set up accounts to allow the world to directly support the Ukrainian Army:
https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/nats...potrebi-armiyi

Australians can make donations via the Reserve Bank of Australia:
BSB: 092002
a/c: 817532

I have confirmed with the Reserve Bank that these details are correct and legitimate.

And no, nobody can guarantee what they'll spend it on, could be hiring hookers for all we know. Not demanding anybody contribute, so keep your asinine comments to yourself.
I imagine that there will also be plenty of charities we'll be able to donate to, to help with refugees, etc.
Crazy Dazz is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 05:27 PM   #109
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,982
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz View Post

and do what with them?

Annihilate the cities he wants to annex?
Create Nuclear Fallout right on Russia's doorstep?
The **** is unhinged, he could start ordering them to be sent anywhere and everywhere.
Do you think he's currently thinking rationally?

All we can hope is that if he does give he order that the people under him are insubordinate.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 05:54 PM   #110
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

The world’s largest aircraft, a Ukrainian Antonov AN-225 cargo plane, has reportedly been “destroyed” in a Russian attack on an airfield near Ukraine’s capital Kiev

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...ussian-attack/

and i dont know why some spell it kiev whist others kyiv
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 05:59 PM   #111
Citroënbender
DIY Tragic
 
Citroënbender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
Posts: 22,356
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: Your outstanding contributions to this community have not gone unnoticed. IN my view you are a worthy recipient of the (rarely used) Chairman's Award. 
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

It’s the different vowel set. If it’s spelt “Kiev” some might unknowingly rhyme the i with “eye”. Like Americans talking about “see my trailers”.
Citroënbender is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 06:07 PM   #112
jaydee
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jaydee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Perth
Posts: 7,206
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
The world’s largest aircraft, a Ukrainian Antonov AN-225 cargo plane, has reportedly been “destroyed” in a Russian attack on an airfield near Ukraine’s capital Kiev

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...ussian-attack/

and i dont know why some spell it kiev whist others kyiv
Yes I saw that, what a shame, such a spectacular plane, but in the scheme of things people are losing their lives and homes, pales into insignificance.
__________________
jaydee351
4DV8
jaydee is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 06:16 PM   #113
wodahs
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
wodahs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: perth
Posts: 4,355
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
Yes I saw that, what a shame, such a spectacular plane, but in the scheme of things people are losing their lives and homes, pales into insignificance.
true , tho it just seemed interesting that they would make the effort to destroy something thats out of the way and in its current state unusable or repairable to be used (not saying its completely)
__________________
yes still (as money n time permit) doing the

rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually

just remember don't be afraid to try something new.
Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic!

I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !!
wodahs is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 06:25 PM   #114
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 25,940
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
The world’s largest aircraft, a Ukrainian Antonov AN-225 cargo plane, has reportedly been “destroyed” in a Russian attack on an airfield near Ukraine’s capital Kiev

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...ussian-attack/

and i dont know why some spell it kiev whist others kyiv

Been trying to find out.
I really hope not. Its a real engineering feat imo
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 06:53 PM   #115
yakcam
I drank what?
 
yakcam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: In a state of confusion
Posts: 581
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
and i dont know why some spell it kiev whist others kyiv
I had a Ukranian mate explain it to me...

Kiev is Russian and use it as a way of still claiming that it's their city and Kyiv is Ukrainian. Also calling it "The Ukraine" is Russia's way of still claiming it as a territory of Russia, where Ukrainians just call it Ukraine, as in a counrty.

It's like the Russians use it as a way of torment.

I hope I explained that clearly, I do it better in my head than in my typing...lol.
__________________
I will not be taking any criticism, constructive or otherwise.
yakcam is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 06:59 PM   #116
Itsme
Experienced Member
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Australasia
Posts: 7,660
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
The **** is unhinged, he could start ordering them to be sent anywhere and everywhere.
Do you think he's currently thinking rationally?

All we can hope is that if he does give he order that the people under him are insubordinate.
Do you think his own high ranking military command will follow a mad man to destroy the world or unleash nuclear mayhem on the world, people from all walks life do have a preservation for life; including Ruskies.
Russia needs provocation from the west is which is not happening with boots on the ground.
Itsme is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 07:02 PM   #117
Trevor 57
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Trevor 57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,752
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by yakcam View Post
I had a Ukranian mate explain it to me...

Kiev is Russian and use it as a way of still claiming that it's their city and Kyiv is Ukrainian. Also calling it "The Ukraine" is Russia's way of still claiming it as a territory of Russia, where Ukrainians just call it Ukraine, as in a counrty.

It's like the Russians use it as a way of torment.

I hope I explained that clearly, I do it better in my head than in my typing...lol.
The same as England calls Derry Londonderry
__________________
I reserve the right to arm bears
Trevor 57 is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 28-02-2022, 07:16 PM   #118
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,658
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor 57 View Post
This unprovoked attack on Ukraine could be the start of something much bigger and we need to talk about it
Makes it hard when religious discussion is also banned. Those who study the world's oldest book are not shocked by what is happening.
__________________
UA2 TREND 4WD BI TURBO
prydey is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 08:16 PM   #119
zilo
BANNED
 
zilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by wodahs View Post
The world’s largest aircraft, a Ukrainian Antonov AN-225 cargo plane, has reportedly been “destroyed” in a Russian attack on an airfield near Ukraine’s capital Kiev

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...ussian-attack/
i have been on that plane (or one exactly like it), it was at the Melbourne airshow one year and I was there on the trade day with Boeing. The russians took us in and showed us around.
All analogue dials, no plastics or teflon...wax cotton covered insulation in the wiring. It was full of fuel and they were all chain smoking inside, Avalon is smoke free...LOL
__________________
Please press the "Like" button if you enjoy my posts.

(It's the red triangle with exclamation mark on the left)
zilo is offline  
Old 28-02-2022, 08:19 PM   #120
zilo
BANNED
 
zilo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,886
Default Re: Russia v Ukraine

Quote:
Originally Posted by XR Martin View Post
Putin said recently that they have no reservations using nuclear weapons as a first strike attack.

.

Where did he say that?
__________________
Please press the "Like" button if you enjoy my posts.

(It's the red triangle with exclamation mark on the left)
zilo is offline  
This user likes this post:
Closed Thread


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 01:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL