HSV not worried about S/Charged FPV's - Page 4

Outback · 25-02-2010, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HSE2

I think you are going to see a tough N/A engine but do the HSV boys snigger in the pub about the blower thats on the inline six?

If you can show me a blower that comes standard on an FORD inline six, I will buy you a brand new F6. the only thing i see on the inline six is a hairdryer.

flappist · 25-02-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

If you can show me a blower that comes standard on an FORD inline six, I will buy you a brand new F6. the only thing i see on the inline six is a hairdryer.

The term "blower" is colloquial vernacular for "supercharger".

The high performance inline 6 cylinder engine in the current and previous Falcons are fitted with a "turbine-driven supercharger" also sometimes called a "turbocharger" or "turbo".

So therefore two facts are proven.

1) The Ford Falcon I6 engine has an permutaion available that can be correctly described as a "blower".

2) Post 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback in post 41

Sorry but i fail

RG · 25-02-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flappist

The term "blower" is colloquial vernacular for "supercharger".

The high performance inline 6 cylinder engine in the current and previous Falcons are fitted with a "turbine-driven supercharger" also sometimes called a "turbocharger" or "turbo".

So therefore two facts are proven.

1) The Ford Falcon I6 engine has an permutaion available that can be correctly described as a "blower".

2) Post 41

And this, my friends, is what is commonly known as "internet ownage".

Outback, I suggest you may want to either;

A) Set about researching topics before making your argument
B) Leave said argument
C) Continue with argument providing me with many LOL's.

EDIT:

Forgot something;

D) PM Flappist asking for details as to where he would like his nice new F6 delivered to.

Outback · 25-02-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RG

And this, my friends, is what is commonly known as "internet ownage".

Outback, I suggest you may want to either;

A) Set about researching topics before making your argument
B) Leave said argument
C) Continue with argument providing me with many LOL's.

EDIT:

Forgot something;

D) PM Flappist asking for details as to where he would like his nice new F6 delivered to.

He gets nothing because Ford has NEVER use a blower on an inline six yet.

ltd · 25-02-2010, 01:43 PM

Outback as Flappist 100% correctly puts it, a turbine driven device that provides positive air pressure is ostensibly charging the air aka blowing; in the exact same vain as a belt driven supercharger charges air to provide positive air pressure again aka blowing. So Outback, the XR6T, the G6E-T, and the F6 in all its variations are samples of Fords inline 6 with blowers. Speaking of the F6, I'll take you up on your offer and I'll have my F6 in Vixen with Charcoal leather seats. When can I expect it?

RG · 25-02-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

He gets nothing because Ford has NEVER use a blower on an inline six yet.

I find it odd that your typing and spelling are of such a standard considering the fact that you obviously cannot read.

Post 92, the post I previously quoted, outlines that Ford has in fact done so.

Re-read, research, retry.

3vXT · 25-02-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

He gets nothing because Ford has NEVER use a blower on an inline six yet.

I think outback should buy everyone a blower

:

Kamshaaft · 25-02-2010, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

If you can show me a blower that comes standard on an FORD inline six, I will buy you a brand new F6. the only thing i see on the inline six is a hairdryer.

Looks like it's time to redraw on your mortgage mate. Like has been said, Turbos, while conjuring their own distinct mental image, still fall under the supercharger/blower umbrella.

Also, interesting note: Some peoplepeople refer to Centrifugal blowers/superchargers as 'belt driven turbos'. They are one and the same, although that's not a legit term AFAIK. Supercharger though, is more or less a broad term. You've got whipple/lysholm/roots/centrifugal/turbocharger, etc

Outback · 25-02-2010, 01:55 PM

Whenever you want it, we currently have 3 in use but after they have reached 40k, you are more than welcome to buy one.

**DJM83** · 25-02-2010, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

He gets nothing because Ford has NEVER use a blower on an inline six yet.

Come on give up already troll

Outback · 25-02-2010, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJM83

Come on give up already troll

.......

Kamshaaft · 25-02-2010, 02:08 PM

SVO probably have put a roots or centrifugal on a Ford 6 at some stage, for shits and giggles, but that wouldn't count.

kezzer · 25-02-2010, 02:14 PM

To be fair, when people say 'blower' you think of a supercharger, like what will be on the 5.0l, instead of a turbocharger thats on the 4.0l, despite the 'proper' terms. I know I do.

geckoGT · 25-02-2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EgoFG

Last time I looked I could find no evidence of any Holden ownership of HSV - and this was about 6 months ago.

If you have such, please let me know.

A "Joint Venture" is not the same as saying "Holden's".

FPV is IIRC 49% Ford Owned, and as such can be called "Ford's".

This is why most car mags list HSV seperate, but FPV is listed under Ford.

Again, I'll stand corrected - with some proof,

HSV is not "Holden's"

As requested, sorry for the off topic but this should not take too long.

Direct cut and paste from HSV website on their history page.

Quote:

History of HSV
Australian made muscle cars took on a new maturity when Holden Special Vehicles opened its doors to the public in February 1988.

The establishment of the joint venture operation between General Motors Holden’s and British Tom Walkinshaw Racing (TWR) group was a major coup not just for performance car connoisseurs, but also for the local industry.

From the history page of the FPV website.

Quote:

FPV was formed as a joint-venture partnership between Ford and Prodrive, established to engineer and manufacturer a range of premium Ford performance vehicle for the Australian market.

What is a joint venture?

Quote:

A joint venture is a legal term that describes the relationship between two or more parties entering into an agreement to work towards the same strategic goals while remaining separate entities. Joint ventures occur across most industries where companies may combine forces for a specific project but may even be competitors for others.

So, it seems that if HSV is not Holden's performance manufacturer as has been suggested, what I said was true and FPV is not Ford's.

By the way

Wheels list FPV separate to Ford as they do HSV separate to Holden, so do Motor and Top Gear, so what "most magazines' do you refer to?

It seems you may stand corrected.

flappist · 25-02-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJM83

Come on give up already troll

No no Dallas.

Traditionally trolls have been "smote with furious anger" but occasionally one is just so ignorant, foolish and nonsensical that their actions are just downright amusing.

Outback has become the "Mr Bean" of the forum....

geckoGT · 25-02-2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezzer

To be fair, when people say 'blower' you think of a supercharger, like what will be on the 5.0l, instead of a turbocharger thats on the 4.0l, despite the 'proper' terms. I know I do.

And a multitude of motoring journo's around the world refer to both turbo's and superchargers as blowers. Cough up the F6 Outback, you were

:

**DJM83** · 25-02-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flappist

No no Dallas.

Traditionally trolls have been "smote with furious anger" but occasionally one is just so ignorant, foolish and nonsensical that their actions are just downright amusing.

Outback has become the "Mr Bean" of the forum....

DJL351 · 25-02-2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

He gets nothing because Ford has NEVER use a blower on an inline six yet.

kezzer · 25-02-2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geckoGT

And a multitude of motoring journo's around the world refer to both turbo's and superchargers as blowers. Cough up the F6 Outback, you were

:

Well it's the first i've heard of it, show me some articles to prove your point? Not saying your wrong, just I always thought blower was slang for supercharger.

DJL351 · 25-02-2010, 02:28 PM

So HIV say they are not worried........ I'm not worried at knowing they say that are not worried.

kezzer · 25-02-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESP

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Based on that assumptive definition , I reckon that makes for a hell of a lot of BOGANS everywhere..........LOL.......probably driving KIA's and HYUNDAIS rather than HSV's or FPV's.

Sorry I digress.

I doubt a bogan could afford a nice car anyway, but shane warne already proved me wrong lol

Kamshaaft · 25-02-2010, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezzer

Well it's the first i've heard of it, show me some articles to prove your point? Not saying your wrong, just I always thought blower was slang for supercharger.

To be fair, I wouldn't say 'everyone knows they're called blowers too, dur dur durr'. It's really only those of us who know better that call them all blowers, there are plenty (probably a majority) who don't.

And now you do too. But ignorance is no defence, so cough up.

RedHotGT · 25-02-2010, 02:32 PM

Wow ... am I too late for the Free F6 as posted by Outback???

Correct me if I'm wrong... but doesn't a turbocharger work by forcing more air into the engine... (ie: BLOWING more air)???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

A turbocharger, or turbo, is a gas compressor that is used for forced-induction of an internal combustion engine. A form of supercharger, the purpose of a turbocharger is to increase the density of air entering the engine to create more power. However, a turbocharger has the compressor powered by a turbine, driven by the engine's own exhaust gases, rather than direct mechanical drive as with many other superchargers.

Outback - I think you've Blown it...

geckoGT · 25-02-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezzer

Well it's the first i've heard of it, show me some articles to prove your point? Not saying your wrong, just I always thought blower was slang for supercharger.

Really, I do have some good things to do with my time and this does not rate up there. I do however know that in my 24 years of reading every car mag in australia, I have seen turbos referred to a blowers thousands of times.

You learn something new every day!

kezzer · 25-02-2010, 02:51 PM

you post alot... should have plenty of time haha

: jks

fair enough, I've just rarely ever heard it reffered like that.

Rodp · 25-02-2010, 02:55 PM

Thought I'd just blow through and put my name down for one of those free F6's being offered.

Vixen Red - semi auto or manual, I'm not picky in that regard.

geckoGT · 25-02-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezzer

you post alot... should have plenty of time haha

: jks

fair enough, I've just rarely ever heard it reffered like that.

Plenty of time for topics and questions that are worthwhile.

Edit!

Oops, I just noticed he has been banned again, he was only back for a day!

Don't worry about it everyone.

By the way, can I have a F6 in viper please?

Chopped · 25-02-2010, 02:59 PM

C'mon guys being a little precious aren't we ?!

Is it Headers or Extractors ?? !!!!!!!

:

-----------------------------------
My prediction >

HSV will release an "attention grabber" concept at the same time as the Coyote.

Outback · 25-02-2010, 03:00 PM

If my car ever breaks down i know never to ask you lot to repair it , because you guys know jack about cars.

geckoGT · 25-02-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback

If my car ever breaks down i know never to ask you lot to repair it , because you guys know jack about cars.

I want to say something, but alas I must not!

I really do need to remember the following quality advice-