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I (and your children) didn't elect the people who made the poor decisions that we live with There won't be an aged pension system for me, however I currently make up 40% of the registered voters so I'm getting close to being able to take yours away from you ![]() |
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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Yep, and in the last election, primary votes sitting in the 30% mark for both majors, to the point that the two party preferred system is right on the cusp of not working a d there's minor parties being able to wedge the government on policy and block it.
Next year is going to be interesting, hopefully single term government or even more gain from independents and minors because it'll force hands. |
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That his gen has as well but nothing like poking the fire for fun. Obviously not on Trev at all but it has been the last 30 at least but who’s counting haha We were never going to support ourselves in the first place but Govs past to present haven’t changed but look after themselves and sell our resources lower than we have to pay as Sprintey shows on one of them. Utter joke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Tickfords T3/TS50 '02 Sprint8 manual Sept 24 '16 Daily Macan GTS "Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Abraham Lincoln" Last edited by FTE217; 20-06-2024 at 02:49 PM. |
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Dunno why, but this topic of discussion reminds me of this
https://youtu.be/nFIyOEE-S6I?si=sqXNqpxQNc-NfJnJ |
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/how-a...28-gyqg0f.html West Oz: Alan Carpenter (boomer) signed a gas reservation deal, and the West has cheap gas - well done Alan.
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A) Reaching aged pension age B) Shuffling off the planet Before things like universal healthcare, aged pensions and aged care funding gets cut. |
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It didn't have to be this way, go back to 1970 and note population and resources, establish some way of the citizens benefiting from the resources (like Norway), control population growth at say historical immigration averages (90,000pa) plus births, not implement the policies that drove house prices up as assets rather than homes, and retirement would be sweet for all, fully funded with good healthcare too, no homelessness.
One last gas article, from 2017 https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...d57453cfca0167 "unique in it's sheer stupidity..." Off topic on Chinese cars - unless you consider what powers the factories building them!
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bullshit - there will always be an aged pension, stop being elitist and stop with the scare-mongering. Not everyone has high paying jobs and can squirrel money away in their Super. I thought you were a socialist? Governments in Australia will continue to look after the people who just can't afford to look after themselves, this is Australia, not America
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People like Franco need to move into the real world and move away from the computer screen he seems to spend most of his day in front of and reading all the 'chicken-little' stuff. He looks like he has gone from the Left to the Right in recent times |
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Franco is nothing more than a on-line persona. The person that has created Franco (I won't say his real name on here) is quite intelligent, probably too intelligent for his own good if there is such a thing, who you can hold a very well thought out conversation with. Guys, while it is being civil, I will let the thread run (way off topic mind you), but if it gets out of hand it will be closed immediately without explanation. DON'T BE THE PERSON WHO WRECKS IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE!!! |
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I reckon I've got 5 years, maybe a bit more?, on you but I share your sentiment. There won't be a system as "generous" as the one currently available when our time comes. If anything, it'll more likely be a "top up" on a part time job that will be needed. Good luck if you are banking on it for your retirement.
I also fear for the super system for the generation after ours. You can see they are already looking to tweak it, allowing people to raid it to help prop up the economy. How many in their 20s took out the $20k during covid to use on discretionary spend? Good luck! Whats funny is that there is a generation that enjoyed one of the biggest boom times, saw their wealth and standard of living increase like never before, benefits which were contributed by massive trade surpluses, are now lecturing younger generations that they should feel guilty for wanting the same. So going back on topic somewhat, if having chinesium products means people can feel that they can bridge the gap between the haves and have nots, then who is to judge ![]()
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Agree T3minator, I'm probably a bit older still but can see all this happening.
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Currently this is masked by high employment, strong demand for our commodities, high demand for services and goods through population increase.
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Please explain how any of that is our / my fault. I am interested to know your take on it
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On what consumers will buy will almost always come down to value for money. One thing I notice is that the stuff that we produce, we sell at a ridiculous premium locally. Every where else I've travelled, the locally produced stuff is always the bargain! I don't get it, we shoot ourselves in the foot. Why am I paying $14/kg for roo mince? Why are fresh rock lobsters $90/kg?!?! (sorry, no automotive comparison cos we don't produce any longer) Quote:
Its a bit like the advance nations having reaped all the benefits from fossil fuels, and then now telling developing nations they can't do the same ![]()
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They spend all of their life avoiding employment & then we have to look after them in retirement. We have suburbs in Sydney with 3 generations of these critters. Dr Terry |
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![]() Given we're the first generation to go backwards in living standards compared to our parents, I'm curious to see what the 2050s are like for us, loaf of bred will probably cost 600x 'federation credits' or something ![]() One of the guys at work, graduated university 5 years ago and owes more money on his HECS debt now because it indexes annually, than he did when he graduated ![]() Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-06-2024 at 06:42 PM. |
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All I know is I deal with reality rather than what I wish things were. A lesson these kids need.
On topic I avoid buying anything Chinese made let alone a EV where practical but the reality is we can't avoid it all together. I won't buy any car made there on principle. But like everything else, that might not be a choice in the future. |
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With all your blustering you seem to miss a lot of facts Franco |
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oh, so my parents living trough the great depression didn't do it as hard as you - right. FFS sake man get your facts right and stop navel-gazing
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he signed on the bottom line to take on the debt, he didn't have to go to Uni. In fact, is he actually using that Uni qualification now, my bet he isn't
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