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29-08-2024, 10:28 AM | #91 | |||
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Once you take your hands off the wheel they throw a fit and a whole lot of warnings telling you to take the wheel. But hey, I’m sure it’s an ego thing. |
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29-08-2024, 10:30 AM | #92 | |||
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Classic case of the propeller hats over in engineering being divorced from the real world, would like to see these 'safety' functions vs Kangaroo. |
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29-08-2024, 11:41 AM | #93 | ||
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That F1 racing is classic, so random! I look forward to the Woolies trucks that deliver everyone's food behaving in a similar manner.
Go to about 8 minutes in, have a look at the footage, it's high farce! As one comment said: "Dude that shot of the heavy metal music and the F1 robot doing 35KPH / cut to the competitors sitting still " At start of this vid something rural road drivers might be familiar with, encountering a body of water, autonomous mode does not slow down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL-Xvu3G_48 Then there's stuff like encountering black ice on twisty Tassie or Vic roads...
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29-08-2024, 12:25 PM | #94 | ||
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Out of all the cars ive driven the Fords have some of the better systems.
I however turn them off and have even had the cars modified with Forscan so they don't turn back on after a restart. I have been in situations where these safety measures could have caused an accident if I wasn't on the ball, typically around bike riders or pedestrians (most vulnerable).
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29-08-2024, 12:53 PM | #95 | |||
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Hyundai on the other hand, set it to 100, 92 up a hill, 115 down the hill, sometimes it will respond to throttle inputs immediately, other times it wont. |
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29-08-2024, 02:02 PM | #96 | |||
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My main gripe is the lane centering bs and now the adaptive steering that steers itself / wants to fight you. Ive always sat to the left of the road my whole life and it hates it, wants you to be in the centre of the lane, which is fine on a multi lane highway but not so good on 2 lane goat track in the bush.
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29-08-2024, 02:33 PM | #97 | ||
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What's scary is that this technology is the basis for so-called autonomous vehicles.
I mean if the lane-keeping can't actually keep the car centred in the lane at ALL times without human input, then how on earth could it be used for autonomous driving.
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29-08-2024, 04:14 PM | #98 | ||
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My biggest issue with technology in vehicles is when people starting see an aid as a substitute for good practice.
Blind spot monitoring is handy, but I still demand people use their mirrors properly and execute a head check before changing lane. Knowing human nature, I suspect many people now depend solely on the orange/red light appearing on their mirror, and this becomes habit. Should they get into a vehicle without these aids, they may not see the light, assume all is well and cut across and cause an accident. On a freeway at 100km/h, this is terrifying. The attitude of, 'the car will do it all for me' is IMO dangerous. If people *need* these aids, then they aren't fit for the road. I have my crappy BFII. Love it. Simple. It's on me. It has two airbags, ABS, and DSC. These are executed in extreme circumstances. I have only ever used the ABS twice. Never needed DSC or airbags. Parents have a '17 Camry. Beep bloody beep. Thankfully it only beeps for lane departure. It doesn't yank the vehicle. My Dad is a sloppy driver now with a lot of bad driving habits (over 80 now and doesn't drive a lot.) I have driven the car, and the blind spot monitoring is only an aid. I don't trust technology enough to rely on it completely. No. I'm not a 'boomer'. A safe car is important, but the biggest factor is the person driving it. I see too many people who are indecisive, completely unprepared for driving on the road - and they are not P-Platers. A car's technology and features are not there to compensate for shitty driving. If I cannot safely operate my vehicle without aids, I don't deserve the privilege of a license. Either I agree to being re-trained, or I catch the bus and keep out of other people's way. Anyway. I better go and catch my bus...
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29-08-2024, 06:03 PM | #99 | ||
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29-08-2024, 10:20 PM | #101 | ||
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Out of curimacosity, how do these automated and semi-automated systems for lane-keeping, respond in real life turbulent crosswinds?
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29-08-2024, 11:09 PM | #102 | |||
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Funny how you asked this question, I just purchased my new Suburu Outback and had the pleasure of driving it last Tuesday on the Geelong Melbourne Princess Freeway with high cross winds, I turned it off as I deemed it a tad slow in response to the strong winds, definitely my response to car movement was quicker. |
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30-08-2024, 01:17 PM | #103 | ||
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20-09-2024, 09:53 AM | #105 | |||
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This must be what is creating a new breed of stupid drivers.
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30-09-2024, 06:32 PM | #106 | ||
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