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a diff change is not a power adder, or making anything stonger if you are running all the stock Ford driveline, i think this shouldn't be in the opened engine class.
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15-02-2005, 11:17 PM | #93 | ||
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Modified Street.
Street slicks and wider tyres allowed. No body mods allowed or chassis changes. No Cubic Engine changes in this section other than standard rebuild which retain stock internals. Cam Changes allowed Diff Changes allowed Aftermarket Exhaust allowed Must run Cats. Must run 98 octane fuel. Manifold change allowed Carby/injector change allowed Shift kit allowed ----------------- What about head work using standard heads ??? Can the E-series guys and au1&2 use bigger throtle bodies Are manifolds allowed to be modified/changed ?? Stall convertor Cause if that drops us into the next category PRO STREET we are then playing with the blown strokers etc etc EG Stroked Boss 290 with Race fuel slicks and blower 700+kw XR6T similar figures ++++ Better still Au with a 392ci motorsport crate motor and blower :
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Johhny, if you allow, a changed gear ratio change for a manual, you must allow 1 size change for all...
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Take a look again, blowers and turbos are in the outlaw category, xr6t's will have different class alltogether.
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Performance Street. All bolt ons allowed incl chip, edit or other Must stay N/A. Must run 98 octane fuel. Un opened engines. Standard manifold, Oversize throttle bodies allowed. Tyres, can run changes to equavalent ratings, NO adr or Drags (RWC Standards) All body parts must stay intact. No removal of exhaust components. Aftermarket Exhaust allowed Must run Cats. No body mods allowed or chassis changes. Diff/ratio change allowed but only to what Ford bring out eg my ute runs 3.23 but autos run 3.45 so thats as high as i can go. Shift Kit allowed Modified Street. Street slicks and wider tyres allowed. No body mods allowed or chassis changes. No Cubic Engine changes in this section other than standard rebuild which retain stock internals. Cam Changes allowed Diff Changes allowed Aftermarket Exhaust allowed Must run Cats. Must run 98 octane fuel. Manifold change allowed Carby/injector change allowed Shift kit allowed Hi stall allowed. :
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15-02-2005, 11:41 PM | #100 | |||
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Take the AU6 standard ratio is 3.08, but the AU xr6 has 3.45's both these cars are auto's. Casper let me know if this is wrong..
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For example say the pursuit was running 4.11 from factory and my xr was running 3.23 as it is, then i would be allowed to go to the 4.11 without being penalised.
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Might be an option to allow a ratio change in the diff to the XR spec?
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15-02-2005, 11:49 PM | #103 | |||
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514CU. IN. 7.5L Performance Crate Engine Assembly P/N: M-6007-D514* 625HP@6250rpm and 600ft/lbs@4800rpm +tickle it a little more for some extra neddies with out going to forced induction If thats the case all the Au windsors that have a cam and a head clean up running mid-low 14's are also up against the big boys. Some attention needs to be payed to this class. A 175rwkw (AU2XLSV8 for example) runs a 14.4 stall + light headwork+2031 cam+ Exhaust & Extractors with ECU mods would be running against the possibility of sub 10second cars is placed into Prostreet. : And another what exactly is acceptable under this rule No body mods allowed or chassis changes. Is a BA style bonnet from AWC and a bodykit going to breach it, or are we just talking tubs etc And we can chage cam but not the stall to match :
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15-02-2005, 11:55 PM | #104 | ||
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Johnny, if thats what is wanted, and helps get this through, i happy to go along with it. good job.
manual has a factory release of 3.45's that would be your limit. Auto has a factory release of 3.73's that would be my limit. . or it dont matter whats released in auto or manual form the top ratio of that model is what we can use. |
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There's gonna be huge gaps in times in every category, i could change the rods in my ute and still run in the 14's but i'll be up against 10 sec cars.......who cares.........
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I forgot about the histall as pointed above so i've added it in modifed street.
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I'll just race for my own PB's and to compare with other owners out there.
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Johnny a hi-stall launch's you of the line a good clutch will do the same thing..its all about what revs you can leave the line at..
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A Hi-Stall is not a power adder it just allows you to take off at a higher rev's.
like a clutch does. Maybe a 3000-rpm limit on the Hi-Stall is the way to go; at 3000 rpm is very street able... 3000 rpm hi stall = Mal Woods Clutch mod, some use the lightened flywheel. what do you think any good ? It’s like the diff ratio a little bit of parity. Last edited by SpoolMan; 16-02-2005 at 01:25 AM. |
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16-02-2005, 02:50 AM | #114 | ||
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IMHO the way it was on FF was the best way:
N/A 4 Forced 4 N/A 6 Forced 6 N/A 8 Forced 8 But add a out law class, ie. purpose built race cars (the monza etc.) Because if we do it the way you have stated people like me and dan will be in outlaw class straight away against the monza OWNED! That way we know where we stand with the same *type* of engine. Thats my 2 cents Toby |
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I would make the fuel requirements for all classes similar to what andra has
limited to what is available to the general public through a retail petrol station bowser (in at least three ANDRA divisions) |
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16-02-2005, 09:09 AM | #116 | ||
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I think the diff ratio and converter stall speed - too hard to police at the track.
The idea of running a modified class with aftermarket tyres will suit diff geared - hi stalled cars, as this all contributed to hitting the tyres harder. Most people who will run a hi stall and diff gears will need nitto's etc so they will automatically go up one class. People who can get a hi stalled diff geared car off the line with DOT tyres, now that comes down to driving skill. |
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Class one -: 13 sec or slower Class two -: 13 sec or faster (exhibition maybe?) Or maybe the time for the V8's could be? Class one -: 12 sec or slower Class two -: 12 sec or faster You get my drift? Rather than trying to figure out what mods people have. Go by the times they have run. If they haven't run? They are automatic class one. Keeping it simple is the best/easiest/stress free way I think. Brenden
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Times would have to be revised for 4/6/8 and forced classes of course but either way its a lot simpler than a class with more than 10 points you have to verfiy to qualify. My times were an example. I think it's about right for the 8's. 4's,6's and forced? I don't know I've never raced them before so I don't know what they are capable of realistically ;)
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Where would my car fit into all of this? Turbo but the engine is unopened and no other mods have been done.
I like the Idea of sub 13 second cars being seperate. A simple one would be to have ba's in a seperate class to others. Both sub 13 and a slower class. E series and AU v8's together along with the pre BA turbo 6's or even have the pre BA turbo 6's with the BA's??. Sub 13's in a seperate class again. Then have the NA I6's all together. They are pretty similar in performance. IMO B mock with any DEV 5+ in his hands could run a 13.
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