Ford Delivers Outstanding Value with FG Falcon MkII - Page 4

jpd80 · 08-11-2011, 04:57 PM

I'm looking at Holden's build rates, 300/day for Commodore based product and 185/day for Cruze.
That's 485 cars per day..........

Hmmm for a 21 day month, that works out to around 10,000 cars, that adds up to 6,100 Commodores and 3,900 Cruzes.
Either Holden has a bucket load of Caprice PPVs going to the USA or there's an awfully big paddock full of stock out there....

vztrt · 08-11-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Ford seem to advertise the Focus and fiesta more then the Falcon...

That's the segment were the private buyers are...there and SUV's.

**DJM83** · 08-11-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EB92

There are still some new 2011 FG 1 turbo utes around for under 35k, drive away !!

Bit late now but, i love my 5 i wont be getting out of it for an XR6T.

csv8 · 08-11-2011, 08:42 PM

The Mondeo hasn't been advertised for a long time...seen lots of Fiesta, focus and Territory ads..Lets hope the FG2 ads are sensible and highlight the features of the car..

Nikked · 08-11-2011, 09:32 PM

Yep, Ford need to drive the facts

-ANCAP rating, highest for and australian built car.
-Fuel Efficancy
-Features, no matter what they are.

b0son · 08-11-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Lets hope the FG2 ads are sensible and highlight the features of the car..

"wanna hear it again?" ....

Bossxr8 · 08-11-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielXR8

From what Sinead, Fords PR hack said in the link below, they aren't looking at growing market share, so much as retaining what they currently have. Read between the lines and indeed what she says and they aren't expecting huge bumps in numbers for LPG or the four cylinder Falcon either. Looks like internal surveying wasn't painting a bright picture, so the strategy has shifted to holding the line and keep some market share, in a market that has basically moved away and on from Falcon.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2579410002DB2A

She mentioned in another article that there are a number of large fleets who are getting close to needing to renew their fleet cars, so LPi should benefit from that. Getting sales of LPi up further will take time, the fleets that they deserted when they dropped the E Gas last year are going to have to be bought back into the fold, they are not just automatically assuming they will buy LPi, they need to earn their business back from them.

DanielXR8 · 09-11-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

She mentioned in another article that there are a number of large fleets who are getting close to needing to renew their fleet cars, so LPi should benefit from that. Getting sales of LPi up further will take time, the fleets that they deserted when they dropped the E Gas last year are going to have to be bought back into the fold, they are not just automatically assuming they will buy LPi, they need to earn their business back from them.

Heres hoping. I was having coffee this afternoon and parked outside was a nice clean FG XR6. It had the larger optional 19" wheels, but was otherwise standard. Couldn't help looking at it, they are a great looking car and a good drive too. I suspect the FG styling will be more appreciated in years to come. Its a very classy design for Falcon. With the recent price and equipment adjustments they really do deserve better sales.

**Polyal** · 09-11-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

She mentioned in another article that there are a number of large fleets who are getting close to needing to renew their fleet cars, so LPi should benefit from that. Getting sales of LPi up further will take time, the fleets that they deserted when they dropped the E Gas last year are going to have to be bought back into the fold, they are not just automatically assuming they will buy LPi, they need to earn their business back from them.

Agreed, people seem to think the big fleet guys can just change on a whim, it will be a gradual process and while it might sounds odd id even be prepared to wait 12 months for the full effect.

1TUFFUTE · 10-11-2011, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Theres no doubt about it..

All i was saying that theres definately a better feed in the G6ET for Ford, but at the same time G6ET's are usually dont sell for much more then $50 kay on the real market.

I can see myself in an FG2 G6E Petrol (I wanted gas but dont like 17's) sometime next year. The GT is great but sadly its expensive to maintain and useless as far as power goes and being able to use it.

u my friend have lost it...sad sad sad..listen to yourself...you just complained that a ford GT has to much power...haha..kiddin....im guesin 20 years ago you would have been driving a mini as the new falcon 6s have more then the old 8s lol. New prices r extremely exciting tho...i bet the dealers r chearing hyl now get more peeps in the door...

1TUFFUTE · 10-11-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielXR8

Heres hoping. I was having coffee this afternoon and parked outside was a nice clean FG XR6. It had the larger optional 19" wheels, but was otherwise standard. Couldn't help looking at it, they are a great looking car and a good drive too. I suspect the FG styling will be more appreciated in years to come. Its a very classy design for Falcon. With the recent price and equipment adjustments they really do deserve better sales.

mate spot on..i feel exactly the ame about the fg looks

lucas2 · 10-11-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

u my friend have lost it...sad sad sad..listen to yourself...you just complained that a ford GT has to much power...haha..kiddin....im guesin 20 years ago you would have been driving a mini as the new falcon 6s have more then the old 8s lol. New prices r extremely exciting tho...i bet the dealers r chearing hyl now get more peeps in the door...

I think he was referring to the car having all that power, but the car itself can't use it properly.

csv8 · 12-11-2011, 12:42 PM

Denmac Ford Darra have the FG2 on their website..with a form to request a preview...

martyk54 · 12-11-2011, 03:30 PM

Has anyone got a quote for one yet? I did yesterday(FG MkII XR6T Ute) and wasn't too impressed. Sure, they've taken 3k off the retail price but so what... the bonuses on FGs were huge. They were cut by up to 10k or more. The dealer told me they hadn't sold many either... no wonder.

I'm leasing through NLC and need something pronto. Had a the Ute priced up with everything pretty much, w/staff discount = 40k.

Found it interesting that the lux pack is the same price even though the colour screen is already included in the MKIIs. Sports bars standard on all XR Utes too.. so 3 piece cover w/bar same price as cover with no bars.

What do you guys think about the sports bar & hard lid compared to just the lid?

I'm guessing they'll start cutting the prices by Jan.

jpd80 · 12-11-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by martyk54

Has anyone got a quote for one yet? I did yesterday(FG MkII XR6T Ute) and wasn't too impressed. Sure, they've taken 3k off the retail price but so what... the bonuses on FGs were huge. They were cut by up to 10k or more. The dealer told me they hadn't sold many either... no wonder.

I'm leasing through NLC and need something pronto. Had a the Ute priced up with everything pretty much, w/staff discount = 40k.

Found it interesting that the lux pack is the same price even though the colour screen is already included in the MKIIs. Sports bars standard on all XR Utes too.. so 3 piece cover w/bar same price as cover with no bars.

What do you guys think about the sports bar & hard lid compared to just the lid?

I'm guessing they'll start cutting the prices by Jan.

That's the problem in a nutshell, the market now expects XR6 to continue selling at $36,990 drive away but it won't
as witnessed by the prices being charged for new Territory, all sales are now very close to RRP.
The acid test will be Holden and their VE refresh, I seriously doubt any discounts will be given on the new SV6.

Bossxr8 · 13-11-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by martyk54

Has anyone got a quote for one yet? I did yesterday(FG MkII XR6T Ute) and wasn't too impressed. Sure, they've taken 3k off the retail price but so what... the bonuses on FGs were huge. They were cut by up to 10k or more. The dealer told me they hadn't sold many either... no wonder.

I'm leasing through NLC and need something pronto. Had a the Ute priced up with everything pretty much, w/staff discount = 40k.

Found it interesting that the lux pack is the same price even though the colour screen is already included in the MKIIs. Sports bars standard on all XR Utes too.. so 3 piece cover w/bar same price as cover with no bars.

What do you guys think about the sports bar & hard lid compared to just the lid?

I'm guessing they'll start cutting the prices by Jan.

What did you expect, they never have and never will offer big discounts right off the bat, initial orders for new models means they don't have too. They must have plenty of orders for MkII's because production has been at full rate and there have been rumours that Broadmeadows wants to run a Saturday.

jpd80 · 13-11-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What did you expect, they never have and never will offer big discounts right off the bat, initial orders for new models means they don't have too. They must have plenty of orders for MkII's because production has been at full rate and there have been rumours that Broadmeadows wants to run a Saturday.

Good news if true, I think Holden will be ramping down soon with lots of stock...

Territory prices have been holding fast and still getting around 1200 sales a month,
that must be welcome to Ford, I'm hoping that FG II and its extra value and discounted RRP
is enough to keep retail buyers in the showroom. I doubt we'll see any discounts in
the first three months of 2012 as Ford will be building to order and pressing home EcoLPI to fleets.
Oh, and Ecoboost will be here in that time frame too...

Gobes32 · 13-11-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What did you expect, they never have and never will offer big discounts right off the bat, initial orders for new models means they don't have too. They must have plenty of orders for MkII's because production has been at full rate and there have been rumours that Broadmeadows wants to run a Saturday.

Press shop is crazy at the moment, barely keeping our heads above water. It's going to be interesting come early next year when the line rate may go up.......?

jpd80 · 13-11-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Press shop is crazy at the moment, barely keeping our heads above water. It's going to be interesting come early next year when the line rate may go up.......?

Sounds like Bossxr8 was right about increased sales, fingers crossed that Saturday O/T is back soon for workers.

SteveJH · 13-11-2011, 11:32 AM

Reducing the list price was a good move. Let face it, if most people want to buy a car, they'll look up what the price is and then look for cars within their budget.

How many would see a car being advertised for 5,000-10,000 more then they can afford and then try find one on a 10-20% discount?

Paxton · 13-11-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Press shop is crazy at the moment, barely keeping our heads above water. It's going to be interesting come early next year when the line rate may go up.......?

Just in time for Christmas, too.

Is this more for Falcon, or Territory?

jpd80 · 13-11-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Just in time for Christmas, too.

Is this more for Falcon, or Territory?

Sinead was hinting at some large fleets looking at Falcon, possibly EcoLPI.
Fingers crossed this could be the change in fortune Ford has been looking for..

If new look XT EcoLPI is keenly priced for fleets, it may be a huge hit.

It might sound crazy but I think Ford should go after new taxi sales again, I think Ford needs taxi sales and
fleet sales in general to bolster production volume and provided XT is used, I don't see the harm, it looks much better now.....

Bossxr8 · 13-11-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Just in time for Christmas, too.

Is this more for Falcon, or Territory?

It seems like both are strong atm.

Diesel was just what the Territory needed.

It should be interesting to see how production goes once Ecoboost comes into the mix. February and March figures will be interesting.

Gobes32 · 13-11-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It should be interesting to see how production goes once Ecoboost comes into the mix. February and March figures will be interesting.

Exactly, fleets are stuck in three year cycles, so you would imagine there won't be a sudden rush like there was for Territory update.

February sees Falcon with a series 2 update, ecoboost and ecolpi for the fleet orders and updated Territory. Next year SHOULD be a much better year sales wise.

SteveJH · 13-11-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Exactly, fleets are stuck in three year cycles, so you would imagine there won't be a sudden rush like there was for Territory update.

huh? Individual leases might be for three years, but fleets are always turning over their cars since leases don't all end at the same time....

jpd80 · 13-11-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

huh? Individual leases might be for three years, but fleets are always turning over their cars since leases don't all end at the same time....

Scuttlebutt says that some fleets have been extending existing leases waiting for EcoLPI,
this is going to be interesting, is Holden swimming in stock while Ford is barely making enough?

shewi6 · 13-11-2011, 06:47 PM

Love the new styling on the xr series! So much so that combined with the price reductions i can seriously see myself getting an xr6 instead of a ranger. If price wasnt a factor then i would definately get the ranger, but im hoping to get a manual xr6 with luxury pack for around 40k. Does anyone know if that would be ballpark area for what it would go for?

shewi6 · 13-11-2011, 06:49 PM

* forgot to say na xr6 sedan. (if it wern't for p plates it would be the turbo lol)

prydey · 13-11-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shewi6

Love the new styling on the xr series! So much so that combined with the price reductions i can seriously see myself getting an xr6 instead of a ranger. If price wasnt a factor then i would definately get the ranger, but im hoping to get a manual xr6 with luxury pack for around 40k. Does anyone know if that would be ballpark area for what it would go for?

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* forgot to say na xr6 sedan. (if it wern't for p plates it would be the turbo lol)

i doubt it. you might get a ute for $40k drive away. as mentioned dealers will likely try to hold firm on the pricing in the first few months as its a new model (series 2) and demand should be there.

no harm in trying though.

shewi6 · 13-11-2011, 07:58 PM

Yeah cheers mate kinda what i was expecting. Also considering the fact i would have to oder it because the local dealer is lucky to have any falcon stock let alone manuals.