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30-09-2011, 04:59 PM | #91 | |||
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We know the issue with the sensors going nuts on flat ground with no obstructions, its because the ones we fit are crappy and seem to pick up the ground more than anything else and the way the rear step is and how the sensors are positioned but the heads of the department don't give a crap about it so we have to do it the same. |
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30-09-2011, 06:10 PM | #92 | |||
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we do have a camera in our rav 4 and for parking, it is amazing. however it is not the be all/end all to driveway safety. precautions are needed long before the car is entered I understand that kids are unpredictable, but that is why we were given eyes and hands . . . they are not for perving and holding beers. accidents happen, but geez, how many warnings do people need to take responsibility for their kids |
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30-09-2011, 07:10 PM | #93 | |||
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i do have kids of my own. i have not had any close calls and yet that isn't by accident. i grew up as one of 6 kids. my dad drive's semi's. would always be backing them in to our property every day. not once was there ever a close call, or incident. nor with the family car. brother has 4 young kids. no near misses their either. none of it by accident. if there are kids around, you have to be extra cautious, and speaking for my own (and family's) experience, there is no moving of cars unless all kiddies are in view and being held onto by an adult if they are too young to know any different. i might sound harsh, but thats my view. yes, these are very tragic incidences and if it happened to me i have no idea how i would get on with my life, but... why was it only becoming heard of in the last 5-10 years or so?? i'm not one to blame the equipment. |
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30-09-2011, 08:41 PM | #94 | |||
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I don't know about you, but when I was a kid I was not allowed out of forward sight, of a rearward moving vehicle without being belted. |
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30-09-2011, 08:41 PM | #95 | ||
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As a matter of interest, I just found this -
http://www.nrma.com.au/keeping-safe-...y-tables.shtml showing the minimum distance a car has to be from an object the size of a small child to see it in the rear view mirror. As you can see, it's not just an SUV thing. The Mazda 2 sedan has to be 15 METRES in front of an object before it's seen in the rearview mirror. |
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30-09-2011, 08:45 PM | #96 | |||
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30-09-2011, 08:47 PM | #97 | |||
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Drove my sister's 350z a couple of times when she had it. Agree completely. |
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30-09-2011, 08:53 PM | #98 | |||
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This exactly. I chuck my little one in the car if i have to move it and I am home alone if the missus is home i make sure she is locked inside |
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30-09-2011, 08:56 PM | #99 | |||
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Can't your missus be trusted around cars, you have to lock her inside?
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30-09-2011, 08:57 PM | #100 | |||
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30-09-2011, 09:01 PM | #101 | ||
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I see Ford have just stopped fitting reversing cameras in their XR and GT range, why would they do that. Crazy
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30-09-2011, 09:09 PM | #102 | ||
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most likely cameras are going to be a plus, but what would be the guidelines on how they are to be used. Regulatory bodies would need to have those guidelines in place before making them compulsory.
Just some questions off the top of my head? How would they be incorporated into a driving test? At what stage does one look over their shoulder while backing rather than looking at the screen?, or is the idea that using the mirrors and the screen totally replaces looking around. Do people become a little disorientated looking at the screen and managing to steer in the right direction while reversing? ie what is left on the screen is on the right side of the rear of the vehicle. My thoughts would the camera is there there to check nothing is hiding up close to the car before backing and then look over the shoulder out the back window, or even through the rear side windows when reversing out of a 45 deg park etc. i could see that for myself it would be better to have the monitor on the rear shelf so that I could take in the whole picture without constantly turning around. Last edited by sudszy; 30-09-2011 at 09:20 PM. |
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30-09-2011, 09:12 PM | #103 | ||
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Being an installer of reverse cameras and sensors I have to say that the combination of both does save lives.
Its not about knowing where your kids are because kids are kids. If the driver does not pay attention to the best safety devices then nothing will help them. In saying that 4wd and alot cars utes do need them without a doubt.
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30-09-2011, 09:17 PM | #104 | |||
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30-09-2011, 09:25 PM | #105 | |||
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30-09-2011, 09:39 PM | #106 | ||
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As a father of two toddlers I could not imagine what there parents have to live with having run over and killed their own child.
In the construction industry (Teir 1 major projects anyway) we take safety so seriously on our sites we cannot move machinery unless people are totally isolated and accounted for. If any staff member observes this rule broken the job will STOP and the incident is investigated. We take zero chances. I told my wife she is not to reverse the car unless she is 100% certain were our kids are. If there is any doubt get out of the car and make sure they are safe. If the child was with me when she gets in the car but then does not see me with the child as she is reversing 30 seconds later stop and make sure where the child is. No ifs, no buts. Kids can't be brought back! |
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30-09-2011, 09:44 PM | #107 | |||
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30-09-2011, 10:19 PM | #108 | |||
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01-10-2011, 06:59 AM | #109 | |||
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01-10-2011, 08:09 AM | #110 | |||
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Explain the mother of the 16 year old kid that was killed on his first day at work on a construction site that it was way to expensive to use a EWP so we used a plank and a few milk crates instead. |
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01-10-2011, 08:38 AM | #111 | ||
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Let's get back on topic, it is about reverse cameras and not work place safety.
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01-10-2011, 03:50 PM | #112 | ||
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The reverse camera in our G6E is amazing...I've seen comments about how cameras don't show everything...if they're talking about a Falcon, do they have a different type of camera to mine? Mine shows a very wide angle view behind the car, and focus is that close to the back of the car that when I fit the towball, you can see directly down onto the top of it to line up the hitch. If I'm parking reversing back to a painted line, you can look straight down the bumper to see the line in line with the rear bumper, so it shows everything from many meters back to directly underneath the camera.
Combining the side mirrors and the camera shows everything for many meters around...best invention since sliced bread. |
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