Fpv

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by flappist

I remember back in 1980 when the demise of the Kingswood was announced and Holden went to a global platform, the strange Commodore thing from Opel.

Doom, gloom, the end of Australian Holdens, the sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Commodore seems to have done alright though.

If in 2016 the current vehicle we know as the Falcon is finally end of lifed and a new global platform takes its place we are possibly in a strong position to make the RHD versions for export to RHD countries.

All things end but rather than grieve maybe we should look forward to the next generation of "Son of Falcon" with anticipation.

Take all the good features from Mondeo, Taurus, Mustang, Focus and Falcon and apply them to the Ford "Messiah". What an amazing vehicle that would be........

Bad example and short sighted

Commodore and Falcon in the 70's and 80's were competing against each other for the top 2 spots. Even if you sold badly you still sold a $*** load of units.
If you've been living in Australia for the past 20 years you may have noticed that both Falc and Commonwhore have been increasingly under siege by mid sized Mazdas , Hondas , subarus and more recently the Euros as well as the Koreans now. Wait til the Chinese get really stuck into it.

The point here is that decreasing sales of a single main model will no longer make it viable for skunkwork companies like FPV to provide niche models with local input. The messiah as you call it will be competing with so many more models in a much more culturally diverse demographic.it may sell but not in the numbers required to sustain businesses like FPV....after all we are talking about FPV in this thread.....yes?

[stalker]

his point is how many of fords fan base can actually afford a 70k car.. i wish i could but id be struggling and for what? to say i have a nice car? big deal..

something around the 50k mark i can justify (just), still affordable on my income with repayments. and would still have some extra money to save etc. most aussies cant afford to front big money into cars these days, the news might be showing aussies as performing well but i tell you right now on the street people are struggling to make ends meet, they just put on a strong face and keep things moving the best they can.

[SpoolMan]

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
The person now running FPV had been running it for the 12 months as he was covering a person who had time off with illness.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by GT 160

I agree, the only reason i bought mine was the fact i picked it up for under $55k with only 3000k's i would never have bought one if i was paying rrp. Take away the engine and for $70k+ they really are poverty pack inside, i'll probably get flamed for saying it but seriously the interior of the GT etc does not fit with a $70k+ motor vehicle.

Anyway, ot rant over.

you can't have it all for $70k

like saying your new super model girlfriend is ok, but take away her looks and she's not that special.

the engine is a cracker

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

I did read this too


Bit in bold looks promising.

[stalker]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

you can't have it all for $70k

like saying your new super model girlfriend is ok, but take away her looks and she's not that special.

the engine is a cracker

they want to sell models though, so a 70k price is out of budget for the blue collar working class that normally buy ford/holden.

are they a nice car YES! BUT if the buys dont have that sort of money why target them for the small percentage that can front the money.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by stalker

you gonna lend me the money for one?

it will be even further out of reach for you if they put everything in it that people seem to want (mind you those who don't seem to buy anyway)

its a sparse car that goes like stink

which I love and prefer to the reciprocal

[stalker]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

it will be even further out of reach for you if they put everything in it that people seem to want (mind you those who don't seem to buy anyway)

its a sparse car that goes like stink

which I love and prefer to the reciprocal

im not saying they need to add anything to it, i think they have produced a nice car, its not a euro luxo car, its a bloody falcon end of the day, its meant to be roomy, simple to use, and go fast when ya want it to..

if they released another xr8 style car they would continue to sell more as they are not priced over peoples heads that love their v8's. how many people are still getting around in ther bf xr8's because the step from that into a FG FPV blah blah is just to much.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
The person now running FPV had been running it for the 12 months as he was covering a person who had time off with illness.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

great news


I think anyone who wants to come on here and sledge the products should be asked if they have driven one before we even listen

[GT 160]

Originally Posted by Elks

OK so Take away the nice interior and you just turned an Audi A4 into a Corolla..

Or you can have the Euro bling & gimzo's with the GT's grunt its called a C63 and its $170K

What your point.

How you can draw a comparison between an A4 and a Corolla is beyond me but my point was the level of standard equipment does not befit a vehicle of that price, i mean seriously manual seats ffs.

Dont get me wrong i love the vehicle and i knew all this when i bought it and yes i couldnt agree more that the engine is an absolute cracker i just refuse to be as one eyed as alot of people over an engine.

[Bluehoon]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
The person now running FPV had been running it for the 12 months as he was covering a person who had time off with illness.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

Great post, nice to see some facts. Whilst not the best as it doesn't lock anything in past 2016, it means we still have 4 more years left.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by stalker

if they released another xr8 style car they would continue to sell more as they are not priced over peoples heads that love their v8's. how many people are still getting around in ther bf xr8's because the step from that into a FG FPV blah blah is just to much.

plenty of fg xr8s sat around with no buyers for yonks... fg xr8 is a very under rated car imo.

this has been done to death, the issue is that a xr8 would still be a very similar price to the gs. after all the gs is what the xr8 was going to be.
take away the few fpv trinkets add xr8 badges and voila thats what the xr8 would have looked like.

imo xr8 needs to be lineball pricewise with xr6t, any dearer and the xr6t is more attractive. soo market it as an entry level fpv to help justify the higher price required by the miami investment.

and xr8 would never sell enough to justify its own engine ala n/a 5.0

seems ford/fpv got it right really.

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by mcnews

You can have a Mercedes E Class for less than a GT-P, let alone a C Class.. Different cars I know, but the Euro war is hotting up with Merc trying to steal BMW's thunder with the aspirational class.

oooohhhh PLEASE...enough of comparing a povo pack woefully underpowered Euro with a high performance FPV allready. For the record the lowest spec Mercedes-benz E Series (a woefully underpowered E200) has a driveaway price of $89,218 in WA, but to get FPV performance you will need to buy an E500, (driveaway $199,802), or a better option IMO is the E63 ($261,584), (all driveaway prices for WA from M Benz Au website).

As for the possibility of a Mustang with a Maimi motor, personally I'd be pleased to see this option somewhere down the track especially if it came with the latest U.S. Ford technology but I'm not looking for it, existing FPV's are huge bang for your buck and a superb drive at any price, let alone the great value for money on offer. Seriously some of you guys need to ante-up and get with the programme, you've got no idea how much fun you're missing out on

[stalker]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

plenty of fg xr8s sat around with no buyers for yonks... fg xr8 is a very under rated car imo.

this has been done to death, the issue is that a xr8 would still be a very similar price to the gs. after all the gs is what the xr8 was going to be.
take away the few fpv trinkets add xr8 badges and voila thats what the xr8 would have looked like.

imo xr8 needs to be lineball pricewise with xr6t, any dearer and the xr6t is more attractive. soo market it as an entry level fpv to help justify the higher price required by the miami investment.

and xr8 would never sell enough to justify its own engine ala n/a 5.0

seems ford/fpv got it right really.

this is what im trying to say they need one at an Entry lvl where average blokes that like their v8's can go and buy one (and have wet dreams of "if only she was super charged!!")

and it should step up from that point for people that do have the money that can afford the 335 supercharged etc. but if you cant sell units people dont see them on the road and they lose interest as they dont have the "i wish i could own one of those maybe i should go have a look at one" factor

[XRDeeze]

Originally Posted by GT 160

I agree, the only reason i bought mine was the fact i picked it up for under $55k with only 3000k's i would never have bought one if i was paying rrp. Take away the engine and for $70k+ they really are poverty pack inside, i'll probably get flamed for saying it but seriously the interior of the GT etc does not fit with a $70k+ motor vehicle.

Anyway, ot rant over.

where did you get that car for that price?

[b0son]

Originally Posted by shonkymofo

its a sparse car that goes like stink

When you spend $70k on a car, you dont expect it to be sparse. More to the point, HSV seem to be able to be able to deliver a more complete package at the same price point. Judging by their sales, people would prefer the complete package to outright power.

[GTpilot]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
The person now running FPV had been running it for the 12 months as he was covering a person who had time off with illness.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

FINALLY! Some facts out of this. Note the bold bit people..a very little known Fact!
AND MR newby here - "I know everything cause I work for FPV", I call BS on you mate, because if you really do work for FPV, you would be aware of this AND you would not be saying the crap you are!

[GT 160]

Originally Posted by Ford_XR603

where did you get that car for that price?

Right place right time and some serious cloak and dagger games. Buy of the century i think considering i was about to pay $48k for a new GS

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by b0son

When you spend $70k on a car, you dont expect it to be sparse. More to the point, HSV seem to be able to be able to deliver a more complete package at the same price point. Judging by their sales, people would prefer the complete package to outright power.

if you want a slow(er) car with all the bells and whistles, then yeah, you're probably better off in a HSV

I like where the money was spent on my car (mostly between the shock towers)

intercooler, injectors and a little more boost and you have 450kw at the tyres

depends what you want I guess

[flooded one]

I know everyone wants the XR8 back but here an idea. why not bring the V8 back in the XT model instead?? that way it can be inline or less then XR6T pricing and if you want extras you pay more for it. then you have an entry level V8 for the current FG

[stalker]

Originally Posted by wildrider

I know everyone wants the XR8 back but here an idea. why not bring the V8 back in the XT model instead?? that way it can be inline or less then XR6T pricing and if you want extras you pay more for it. then you have an entry level V8 for the current FG

that would work too! something entery lvl that doesnt cost the earth would keep them selling like hot cakes.. the whole v8 thing lately seems to push the price up more and more even though they cant compete with the fuel saving vehicles which is what they are fighting against atm.

[pottery beige]

its turned into a bag FPV sook thread.. why dont you just admit youre butthurt and cant afford one..

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by b0son

When you spend $70k on a car, you dont expect it to be sparse. More to the point, HSV seem to be able to be able to deliver a more complete package at the same price point. Judging by their sales, people would prefer the complete package to outright power.

Your thought and yes .... HSV have more of a following for some reasons.

But the rest is BS ....... wish people would stop talking like its everyone's bloody opinion on a car. I have number 488 in the FG 335 range ...... that means there are people out there who are bloody impressed and happy with what has been offered and put their hard earned down to enjoy that particular package.

No one needs to justify why they bought a particular car as it comes down to personal preference. This absolute crap about from those who either prefer another product for their particular reasons ...... or just cannot bloody afford one really is getting so bloody tired.

Expectations are different for different people and when I ... as in me personally .... bought one I got what I expected. No one else needs to agree with the reason I bought but a constant generalization from those who have decided not to buy for what ever reason is just repetitive crap!

As just a little point to make ..... HSV DO NOT make a similar product. Find me one with a Super Charged engine for UNDER 70k .... on the road.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

I have something new to add I just found out in the last 30 mins.
FPV building was for sale this is because FPV don't own the building, it was sold by the owner and the new owner of the building has to comply with the FPV lease and will still be in place for the next 6 years, this the term has left to run.
The sacking at FPV were for streamlining the business most jobs that went were in what they would call marketing, creative etc.
FPV will still be there for a few more years as they 6 years left on there lease and FPR will still be V8 supercar next year.
The person now running FPV had been running it for the 12 months as he was covering a person who had time off with illness.
Other than streamlining costs I have been told its business as usual and I lot of recent media reports have been based on assumptions, not real facts.
There will be no Mustang in the short term, after this who knows.

The limited edition GT coming out soon wont have a power upgrade, it will have a 9'' rear wheel with a 275 tyre, it will also have factory race style suspension.

Thanks for letting us know.
Hopefully FPV do the same across all media on Monday to kill negative speculation. History is littered with cases where failure in explaining things fully and quickly, even if it means giving away a tiny bit more info then normally done commercially has led to further negative press/unnecessary grief etc..

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Find me one with a Super Charged engine for UNDER 70k .... on the road.

Thats as relevant as saying find me one 6L ford for under 70k on road. How the engine does its thing for most people is just a means to an end - very few would actually buy the car just because its blown (eg. the supercharged VS commodore didnt set any sales records).

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by b0son

Thats as relevant as saying find me one 6L ford for under 70k on road. How the engine does its thing for most people is just a means to an end - very few would actually buy the car just because its blown (eg. the supercharged VS commodore didnt set any sales records).

And why would it with power figures finally bettered by a n/a six Falcon engine, lol.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by b0son

Thats as relevant as saying find me one 6L ford for under 70k on road. How the engine does its thing for most people is just a means to an end - very few would actually buy the car just because its blown (eg. the supercharged VS commodore didnt set any sales records).

youre seriously out of your depth and price range in this discussion..

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Your thought and yes .... HSV have more of a following for some reasons.

But the rest is BS ....... wish people would stop talking like its everyone's bloody opinion on a car. I have number 488 in the FG 335 range ...... that means there are people out there who are bloody impressed and happy with what has been offered and put their hard earned down to enjoy that particular package.

No one needs to justify why they bought a particular car as it comes down to personal preference. This absolute crap about from those who either prefer another product for their particular reasons ...... or just cannot bloody afford one really is getting so bloody tired.

Expectations are different for different people and when I ... as in me personally .... bought one I got what I expected. No one else needs to agree with the reason I bought but a constant generalization from those who have decided not to buy for what ever reason is just repetitive crap!

As just a little point to make ..... HSV DO NOT make a similar product. Find me one with a Super Charged engine for UNDER 70k .... on the road.

I believe the people bagging FPV's products haven't actually tried one.

I love them!

[SS_01]

Seems like a few of you need to calm down a little bit. FPV and HSV are direct competitors whatever they are powered by, so when it comes to bang for buck, or the total package, they are always compared to one another. If you buy the HSV, good for you, because its a good vehicle, and if you buy the GT, then good for you, because it too is a good vehicle.

Can people who own these cars stop taking offense over something that isn't directed at them, cause that's getting old too. If you don't like someone's opinion thats fine, just ignore it.

[Redrum]

I know your comment is general, but I have not taken any offence what so ever. I personally could not give a flying F$%( what people thought of my car. But I do think to have an opinion one should at least have something to base it on. Many of the key board warriors I feel gather their opinions from what they read on the internet, rather then getting out and experiencing for themselves, hence my point.