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04-02-2016, 07:41 PM | #91 | ||
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So it's ok to drive to the shops with a non functioning brake light? Because you won't know it's not working until you get there...
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04-02-2016, 07:57 PM | #93 | ||
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You didn't answer the question.
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04-02-2016, 08:48 PM | #96 | ||
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Wonder if the hwp would get the app, put the car in the garage. No they wouldn't. What is good for the goode os good for the gander
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04-02-2016, 09:07 PM | #98 | ||
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What are you meant to do. Get out and check your brake lights every time you brake?
A globe can blow at any time when in use. You can check it before you depart and have it blow on the 1st brake application down the road. 1 Light out should be a warning fix it now. Obviously it is dangerous and must be fixed because if a 2nd one goes out as well, serious accidents can result. Not all that many years ago people would pull up beside you at the lights and tell you, that you had a light out. Nowadays nobody is game because of road rage ect, and how some nutter might react when you try to help them.
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04-02-2016, 09:10 PM | #99 | ||
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What happens to a guy who removes the spoiler from an xr6? They had no high mount brake light in the rear window, as it was on the spoiler. But if your had a regular falcon or a fairmont, g6 or whatever, does that make it illegal to not have an additional stop light? A warning for a blown globe is reasonable but if you remove the additional globe.... I have never seen an escort getting questioned over why there is only 2 lights, so why do people with 3, effectively double redundancy, stop lights get pinged?
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04-02-2016, 10:06 PM | #102 | ||
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If a car is produced that had 3 lights to meet the adr's it was designed to meet then it has to have that amount, Traffic Management Unit police primarily deal in traffic matters, it seems many can not come to terms with these facts
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04-02-2016, 10:22 PM | #103 | ||
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I would welcome it if this kind of enforcement came to the ACT (moderated with warnings as others have said).
There being no annual roadworthy check here, it seems many drivers are content to let their vehicles go to wreck and ruin. So many times I've been behind a car with only one operative taillight or the high-mounted stop light working. Doesn't have to be old bombs either, I've seen it on a handful of newish cars including at least one prestige SUV. Then there are the ones where the lights have been bodged in bizarre and creative ways. I once followed a Commodore where the right side and centre brake lights were on as taillights; then when the driver braked, they went out and the left side came on...!! |
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Conversely... if you retro fit a rear spoiler to a car with an in parcel shelf high mount centre brake light... and that light is now obscured... then the spoiler will have to have one included (or other similar solution).... and the original one must be disabled (not allowed to have the two together) Older cars built before the ADR requirement for high mount centre stop light... are not required to have one. So even if you have retro fitted a rear spoiler with one in it... there is no requirement to make it work. Conversely... there's no rule which says it can't be connected up to work either. D
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A mate of mine borrowed my spare BA Wagon last year (& still has it)... before I handed over the keys, I made sure it was serviced, and everything worked (had to replace a front parker globe... which I'd only replaced about 3 months before )
Some months later, just after Xmas... when he was driving off from the pub... I noticed that the RH tail light was out (but the brake light still worked). I thought "bugger.. better tell him to fix it tomorrow". The next day I called to tell him and he said he got pulled over by Mr Plod on the way home... just so they could let him know. No fine... no warning... just good public service ! This is how it should be ! Having said that... if they then put a note in their computer against the rego, that they'd pulled that car over to advise of this on such n such a date/time etc.. so that if a cop was to notice this again in a few weeks time... and checked the computer to find that most likely it hadn't been fixed... then decided to issue a warning etc... I'd have no problem with that ! Of course, the more serious the problem... the sterner they need to be... also no problem with that ! D
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04-02-2016, 11:04 PM | #108 | ||
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If he has 2 centre stops light then the spoiler would have been fitted aftermarket
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04-02-2016, 11:18 PM | #110 | |||
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It's something they've included in some cars, and possibly decided it wasn't cost effective to include in the modern day vehicle.
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I used to lean a couple of bricks against the brake pedal to check my brake lights. Worked just fine for me, I don't get why people have to make this so difficult.
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05-02-2016, 06:51 AM | #113 | ||
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Yep, he got $45.10 added to the state coffers. Awesome job.
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05-02-2016, 07:43 AM | #114 | ||
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Glad I posted this thread its been interesting reading all the posts.
Just want to make some comments on some of them. Firstly, my wife did not give the Police any attitude -she isn't that sort of person. The Territory was in otherwise excellent condition (not a bomb which would attract attention.) When pulled over she was only 200 meters from Home which they would have known. Ducatti 888 said put LED's in. Tried that a couple of years ago -caused havoc -had to take them out. As Ratter said "causes weird electrics". Some European cars have to have a special towing harness with a inbuilt control module to tow a trailer/caravan with LED's The Beast posted -carry spares and screwdriver. Gasolane quite rightly posted that op's wife wouldn't know how to change the Bulb. Lots of posts about checking them and how to check them. But they can blow at any time . As I mentioned not sure where the bulbs are manufactured these days but they don't seem to last that long anymore. Maybe its all the stop/start traffic on the Motorways.
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05-02-2016, 07:47 AM | #115 | ||
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Excellant reply champ
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pretty much most dealerships will use aftermarket companies to supply and fit aftermarket spoilers, they still have to comply with ADR's though
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05-02-2016, 09:03 AM | #117 | ||
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Aftermarket parts don't have to comply with the ADR, they only have to say they meet ADR. They are not tested and don't have a compliance certificate. Take an MQ Triton it has a 5 star ancap if you put on a factory bullbar it keep the rating if you put on an aftermarket it looses the 5 star. To comply with ancap you need to crash cars.
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comply or meet?
if they meet them, don't they then comply with them? so your saying fitting a spoiler means the Brake light ADR can be overlooked?
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It might be notable that the paint started peeling off the spoiler due to sun exposure but has yet to happen anywhere else on the car. On the topic of Vectra, it too has a diagnostic system that will alert you of blown lights. But as anyone familiar with these cars will know, the electronics can be... niggly. Seeing the message "Brake light check" could just as often signify a problem with the diagnostics as a problem with your lights Thanks for that, I didn't know. I'm guessing that came about from the change to self-governance - now I'm curious... |
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05-02-2016, 11:15 AM | #120 | |||
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ACT cops are a whole different breed. There are layers of them. And this is reflected in the different cars and uniforms. The lowly highway or traffic cop, from what I've seen, wears what looks like a Gestapo uniform but they really are quite a civilised bunch which reflects the rather civilised ACT population. The Canberra cops seem more tolerant of unroadworthy cars. Like they avert their attention from the poor. The famous American writer, Norman Mailer, said "all cops are punks". ACT cops aren't punks |
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