Final Commodores for 2017

[FTE]

Sprint gets the FPV engine with lower power than the final Gt = a win
Holden use the same engine as entry level HSV and add MRC which is from higher spec HSV and equals a fail and called a sticker pack.... i don't get it.

[arronm]

Originally Posted by jasen

There the worst color scheme since the R-Spec.

I think it was the wheels that made it look Fugly.

But its not only ford that does it.

[Chopped]

I still think the R-Spec GT will be the most collectible, has the fastest printed times and also its in your face look. It's iconic and defines this era.

Lurking the forum from the dark side, looks like these special edition Holdens are almost sold out. A few guys reporting that they can't find any dealers who have any to sell. All presold months ago.

Mid seventies on road......, I think I'd try to stretch that bit further for a LSA Clubsport.

[roddy1960]

G'day all ..This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzTTkVqfujU&t=59s is why we love our Falcons..so much scope to upgrade...not so in your face as Holdens plan to do but..the sleeper of all sleepers...
Re the R Spec FG GT... I used to think they were a bit over the top until I actually saw one...As a full fledged GT ..they're as they need to be. right at you like " Look out of the way I'm here boys ".
The XR's though have never been meant to be like that so unless there really was to be a proper FGX GT. the FGX XR 8 , the FGX XR6T , the FGX XR8 Sprint and the FGX XR6 Sprint , understated but genuine to the XR history was just the right homage to them..
They're the silent assassins ...Just right for me..
The 2017 last iliterations of Commodore could do worse than follow the Ford lead in that regard..Cheers Rod..

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by Chopped

...A few guys reporting that they can't find any dealers who have any to sell. All presold months ago...

Wonder if any of those dealers will find one or two to sell in about 2 months time...for slightly more than current RRP.

Granted there will no doubt be a few come up through genuine 'finance fell through'...but with reports of dealers paying RRP for 'regular' ex-company cars at internal auctions (and even more than RRP for desired combos)...

[Mainforcepatrol]

Originally Posted by Rob 351

Might be just me but the VF is starting to look very dated. These new limited editions remind me of the old VK-VL Vacationer.. Very soft!

Not sure what issue people had with the fgx especially the front i think Ford did well with the front and rear and it still looks the goods.VF was dated when released imo with the front end as the styling was really soft with with the Korean influence of their other models.

[arronm]

Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008

[FG50T]

There's too many models to really have a something "collectable ($$$)" in the future. Look at the old cars that are really worth big bucks these days. The GT's and GTS's, Coupes and HDT's. The ESP isn't even hitting values like it probably deserves to and there's not that many of them.

[Sprintey]

The cars have created that bit of specialness already, having to be endurance tested in Detroit as only higher Spec Camaros/Corevettes are.

Add to that end of V8 discounts, dealers panic-bidding GM fleet auction, most production already sold, and it sounds like a win for GMH tbh

[Express]

Originally Posted by Chopped

I still think the R-Spec GT will be the most collectible, has the fastest printed times and also its in your face look. It's iconic and defines this era.

Lurking the forum from the dark side, looks like these special edition Holdens are almost sold out. A few guys reporting that they can't find any dealers who have any to sell. All presold months ago.

Mid seventies on road......, I think I'd try to stretch that bit further for a LSA Clubsport.

Originally Posted by Iggle Piggle

Wonder if any of those dealers will find one or two to sell in about 2 months time...for slightly more than current RRP.

Granted there will no doubt be a few come up through genuine 'finance fell through'...but with reports of dealers paying RRP for 'regular' ex-company cars at internal auctions (and even more than RRP for desired combos)...

Holden has already allocated the number of cars each dealer can have and the allocation numbers were very low, e,g, many only got one or two of the Directors to offer customers.

Potential buyers are saying the Magnums are gone or hard to find and what’s left of the Directors are now being offered at about $79k well over RRP with prices including $5k for dealer charges.

There are still Motorsports editions to be had and the price of those will increase as the numbers decrease.

It’ll be interesting to see how many newly delivered cars return to the market as private sales where the owners try to make a quick profit.

I'd still go for the LSA HSV's at those prices.


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[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by arronm

Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008

Sadly have to agree. Holden got the last jump in interior design. The difference between FG-X and VF is like how the EF made the VR Commodore look laughable like something from 1988, and the BA made the VY look like an incongruent tacked together failed attempt at modern post-2000 interior .

[FTE]

VR was a continuation of VN from 1988. Dash was different though with carryover instrument cluster but im sure its not interchangeable.
VY SS looks better than BA.

I like the VR interior. Loved my VR GTS

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by arronm

Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008

G'day. In fairness. let's tell the whole story though... The FG/FGX had the hobbles put on for upgrades not least the interior. What few bob they had was mostly sent to the drivetrain and exterior trim features ..Makes it hard to go with the newer VF stuff...It is pretty good though..for a Holden I must admit..
The lack of that means little to the Sprint owners by all accounts .. The car drive ability is why they wanted the final Falcon to focus on the mighty turbo six and the awesome V8 as a priority..I think they succeeded...
I agree , a few more upgrades would have been nice but that was never going to happen via the cheapskates at Ford HQ..
I only have a Mk1 FG XR6..plain jane but I still like the nice XR embossed black cloth interior , the distinctive XR blue instruments , the argent trim..and most importantly how she goes as my pride'n joy..
I'm green with envy though of a few nice touches and special features of the final FGX's.. Very nice indeed...
Cheers Rod...

[tranquilized]

Originally Posted by Express

who in Australia needs heated seats (why not cooled seats instead)?

I love my heated seats on those all too frequent sub-zero degree mornings we get here in central Vic.

Gonna be 35+ tomorrow though so cooled seats would be nice too...

[Express]

Originally Posted by tranquilized

I love my heated seats on those all too frequent sub-zero degree mornings we get here in central Vic.

Gonna be 35+ tomorrow though so cooled seats would be nice too...

I never bother to switch heated seats on, they make me want to go to the loo.


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[arronm]

Bakes the brownies????

[Express]

Originally Posted by arronm

Bakes the brownies????

Softens

It's the bladder that warms up in my case.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Sadly have to agree. Holden got the last jump in interior design. The difference between FG-X and VF is like how the EF made the VR Commodore look laughable like something from 1988, and the BA made the VY look like an incongruent tacked together failed attempt at modern post-2000 interior .

agree with what you say i think holdens always had ugly interiors until the vf , remember the first time i looked in a ve ....little bit of sick came up to my mouth and screw your face up in disbelief ....fgx is ok just no wow and really couldnt figure why they went back to silver bits, oh well

one thing , i quite liked the vf when it first came out but theyre starting to date i reckon , where the fgx i hated ....but now the more i see them the more they have a sort of prescence? .....classiness

maybe its because i have one ....dunno ?

[Angeldust]

I think they've done an excellent job, especially the motorsport ed. If you think about it its almost the same spec as the earlier E series 3 GTS's. ie LS3, MRC, big brakes and extra oil coolers. The only thing I can think off that I can complain about is the price, which is from what I read ~ 70K...

Would look great next to my HRT clubsport..

[Interceptor]

at the moment it appears that its actually pretty difficult to order a new build V8, be it a calais, SS, SSV or redline

just dont ask who I work for.....

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by arronm

Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008

There never was a full local commitment to FG-X until....an Aust Federal gov wanting to avoid problems before a looming election and some quick OS trips to Dearborn added with some Vic Gov/Aust gov and US Ford commitment led to the FG-X program...we were lucky to get anything that came out after FG.

[Express]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

at the moment it appears that its actually pretty difficult to order a new build V8, be it a calais, SS, SSV or redline

just dont ask who I work for.....

Holden has already dropped the SSV from their model lineup.


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[nickd]

Originally Posted by arronm

Sit in a VF Redline and then sit in a Sprint. Then tell me which one is dated...... Sprint =2008

At first when I had the opitunity to drive the new FG-X series in 2014 at You Yangs Fords Proving Grounds I was what a brilliant car but the interior let it down being the same from the BA series seats to the FG dash etc to be honest I was disappointed with what Ford had done to the last Falcon.

But...

Then you jump in a Holden VF SS Redline and you feel sick like you've done something wrong being a Ford true blue Enthusiat from day dot you drive one and think WOW!!! Sounds amazing drives amazing interior is upto date technology like the European and Japanese cars then you wonder why Holden have just done so well.

All in all honesty the last Holden have produced the best commodore till date.

Ford were just too cheap to spend the money on producing a better upto date car.

[malazn mafia]

Originally Posted by FTE

VR was a continuation of VN from 1988. Dash was different though with carryover instrument cluster but im sure its not interchangeable.
VY SS looks better than BA.

I like the VR interior. Loved my VR GTS

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To each his own, but even the EA GL interior eats that interior for breakfast. EF is even better and one of the highlights of locally designed vehicles of the 90s.

[Focus RS]

All Directors pre sold before the official announcement last Thursday

All Magnum Utes sold out this weekend

All manual SSV redline motor sport editions appear to be sold out this weekend

A small amount of auto Motor Sport editions remain

Still Available on limited allocation to dealers Calais V8, SS and SSV- Redlines sedans and Utes

SV6 Utes not many left and ute production to end mid year

Cheers

Paul

[FTE]

Originally Posted by malazn mafia

but even the EA GL interior eats that interior for breakfast..

Pffft yeah right

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by b0son

****y trim aside, its not a bad sendoff IMO... I wonder if a Falcon could survive this test:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/515482/2...ack-certified/

How many owners will do a 24 hr enduro is a commo though? They would have been better off putting the money into a better engine imo.

[Sioso]

They may be selling ok but I think it is because there is no more to come not because they are anything overly special.
The very last chance to make a ltd ed V8 Commodore and it doesn't get a single KW or NM over the standard SS!

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

How many owners will do a 24 hr enduro is a commo though? They would have been better off putting the money into a better engine imo.

I think you missed the point of it.
It isn't about whether an owner will do a 24 hr race it is just to showcase an certify the endurance ability of the drivetrain, that it can handle 24 hr continuous race pace.
As many here would know, even just doing a few laps on a circuit can take its toll on a full road spec car.
****y or not the cars can do it and it is not dissimilar to manufacturers using motorsport as a marketing tool.

[pwr4ce]

Originally Posted by nickd

Then you jump in a Holden VF SS Redline and you feel sick like you've done something wrong being a Ford true blue Enthusiat from day dot you drive one and think WOW!!! Sounds amazing drives amazing interior is upto date technology like the European and Japanese cars then you wonder why Holden have just done so well.

All in all honesty the last Holden have produced the best commodore till date.

Ford were just too cheap to spend the money on producing a better upto date car.

tend to agree with this.

i went from BF to SYII Territory and missed the FG styling until I got my FGX last year. I didnt mind it as it was all still "New" to me and a far cry over the BA/BF/SY styling so I was fairly happy

Then...

My brother got himself a current SSV Redline. One ride in it I realised how cheaply Ford had done things with the last of the Falcons - which is a real shame. The SSV Redline is really nice car and I was super impressed. For about the same money it was much better value in my opinion.