Russia v Ukraine

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by zilo

Prove the referendums were a sham?

You mean the "referendums" facilitated by a hostile occupying force where armed Russian troops escorted election officials door to door and observed people voting? Well, they were literally in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine, international humanitarian and human rights laws, and the UN charter.

Sham enough for you?

If not, probably also violate the Hague Regulations (1907) and the Geneva Convention.

Very telling that the only sovereign nation to recognise the results of the sham was North Korea.

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Gotta wonder if the "millions" flocking in from the south realise they could be conscripted under the S S S.

Doubt they give it any thought. Do you really think that if NATO were to be drawn into taking defensive action in Ukraine that the US or any other NATO country would need to resort to conscription? I seriously cannot see it.

Again, I know his videos are a long death by PowerPoint, but if you were to watch just the 2-3 minutes on 'Manpower' from 16 minutes 40-odd seconds you would see that troop numbers are unlikely to be an issue for NATO (watch the full vid and you will see it is equipment and ammo that could need solution).

[hackney]

[Fordman1]

I see the “peasants” mobilised by Putler and sent to Ukraine, are starving and waiting for their families to buy them warm clothes and other supplies now, this is why the Russian military is a Meme.

[Mulva]

So much of it does not make sense.

Why even mobilise reservists of all ages and health/fitness when they have dedicated career soldiers supposedly sitting on the sidelines?

Why send those reservists into the fray so poorly equipped without even the basics?

Why not use all of their advanced weaponry and equipment?

I can understand not expending your best troops and materiel if it weren't needed as you were already getting the job done, but we have seen they are steadily losing ground and troops (and morale).

Makes you wonder how much of their military 'might' is simply parade forces

[DJR-351]

It looks like the “partial mobilization” has been suspended...

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/31/e...ntl/index.html

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

I see the “peasants” mobilised by Putler and sent to Ukraine, are starving and waiting for their families to buy them warm clothes and other supplies now, this is why the Russian military is a Meme.

AKA ‘battle of Stalingrad’! Seems the same type of scenario, except the shoe is on the other foot!

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Mulva

So much of it does not make sense.

Why even mobilise reservists of all ages and health/fitness when they have dedicated career soldiers supposedly sitting on the sidelines?

Why send those reservists into the fray so poorly equipped without even the basics?

Why not use all of their advanced weaponry and equipment?

I can understand not expending your best troops and materiel if it weren't needed as you were already getting the job done, but we have seen they are steadily losing ground and troops (and morale).

Makes you wonder how much of their military 'might' is simply parade forces

There is no advanced weaponry, there are no professionally trained troops to send.

The Russian military is fake, any hope of a modern army disappeared after the Kleptocracy stole the money for their own Super Yachts and overseas Mega-Mansions. How are Shoigu, Medvedev, and Lavrov billionaires ?

Lol.

[CoupeKing]

[QUOTE=Fordman1;6755681

The Russian military is fake,
Lol.[/QUOTE]

One of us is delusional.

[Mulva]

Had to lol at the Red Army monument in Czech Republic that got "updated" to reflect the real Russian army...not the splatter of red paint to symbolise blood, but more how they made the base into a washing machine

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Mulva

You mean the "referendums" facilitated by a hostile occupying force where armed Russian troops escorted election officials door to door and observed people voting? Well, they were literally in violation of the Constitution of Ukraine, international humanitarian and human rights laws, and the UN charter.

Sham enough for you?

Nope, just your liberation of rhetoric that came on your facebook feed.

[Fordman1]

It’s hilarious how Russian troops aren’t being paid. Lol

The “Mobiks” just want to get out of Ukraine.

Russia’s Kleptocracy only cares about its self, the “Mobiks” being sent to their death, cold, hungry, poorly equipped (the “Rusty AK” video is a “****er”), don’t matter to the corrupt Russian leadership.

The cannon fodder “doesn’t matter” to the billionaires.

This is like Tsarist Russia sending peasants to their death.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

It’s hilarious how Russian troops aren’t being paid. Lol

The “Mobiks” just want to get out of Ukraine.

Russia’s Kleptocracy only cares about its self, the “Mobiks” being sent to their death, cold, hungry, poorly equipped (the “Rusty AK” video is a “****er”), don’t matter to the corrupt Russian leadership.

The cannon fodder “doesn’t matter” to the billionaires.

This is like Tsarist Russia sending peasants to their death.

your confusing russia with the united states..
from the poor to the rich goes the money..

gotta keep the military industrial complex rich for the share holders and corrupt pollies.

[Citroënbender]

It’s almost as though bribing the Russian front line could succeed. Privates surrender, get refugee status and 18 months of transitional support in a NATO country, a new iPhone and the family back in Russia receive a white goods appliance of choice…

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

It’s almost as though bribing the Russian front line could succeed. Privates surrender, get refugee status and 18 months of transitional support in a NATO country, a new iPhone and the family back in Russia receive a white goods appliance of choice…

Da Comrade!

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

It’s almost as though bribing the Russian front line could succeed. Privates surrender, get refugee status and 18 months of transitional support in a NATO country, a new iPhone and the family back in Russia receive a white goods appliance of choice…

And a free toilet too, not a hole in the ground.

[Fordman1]

Putler says the West are Satanists haha lol

Oh the Kleptocracy has lost its mind, it’s so funny.

[MITCHAY]

I can't believe the amount of Russia and China simps in this country. The trolls have been very successful in turning our countries inside out

The worst part about it is they use our open and free media to do it while suppressing their own people

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by burnz

your confusing russia with the united states..
from the poor to the rich goes the money..

gotta keep the military industrial complex rich for the share holders and corrupt pollies.

On both sides, yeah? Or is no one making money / profiting by supplying Russian forces?

[T3rminator]

Some funny logic going on in here.

NATO spends over $trillion a year just to deter a fake army?

Our overlords have imposed sanctions that will cripple citizens of the west, seems a bit heavy handed to stop some dude who is on his last legs and with no army?


Anyhow, whats happened to the Nord Stream 2 investigation?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Mulva

On both sides, yeah? Or is no one making money / profiting by supplying Russian forces?

all weapons have a used by date, use them or lose them..
cheaper to use them and replace rather than dispose of them.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Mulva

On both sides, yeah? Or is no one making money / profiting by supplying Russian forces?

Russia ? Lol North Korea and Iraq are making money on Russias war effort, in the mean time the Russian Kleptocracy is making billions stealing funding that was supposed to be spent on Russia’s infrastructure and military. The Chinese sourced Russian military tyre fiasco is just a good example (cheap crappy tyres bought for peanuts, and the rest of that budget disappeared lol).

Isn’t it a shame the Russian Kleptocracy’ s foreign mega mansions and yachts are being sanctioned

[FairmontGS]

Looks like the battle for Kherson is going to kick off at any moment. If you were the Ukrainians, would you fight through the city or encircle and keep going south to The Crimea? Street fighting is a costly business.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Looks like the battle for Kherson is going to kick off at any moment. If you were the Ukrainians, would you fight through the city or encircle and keep going south to The Crimea? Street fighting is a costly business.

Outflank the incompetent Russian forces, leave them encircled, stranded, without supplies, and move towards the next objective.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Russia ? Lol North Korea and Iraq are making money on Russias war effort, in the mean time the Russian Kleptocracy is making billions stealing funding that was supposed to be spent on Russia’s infrastructure and military. The Chinese sourced Russian military tyre fiasco is just a good example (cheap crappy tyres bought for peanuts, and the rest of that budget disappeared lol).

Isn’t it a shame the Russian Kleptocracy’ s foreign mega mansions and yachts are being sanctioned

so stealing Russian yachts is ok!!

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Outflank the incompetent Russian forces, leave them encircled, stranded, without supplies, and move towards the next objective.

step away from the kool aid..

[Fordman1]

The kleptocracy is in decline lol

The billionaires are looking for a way out.

Hopefully the Russian Yachts are used for target practice just like the “Pong Su”.

But the “Mobiks” will continue to die in their thousands (unpaid by the Kleptocracy), and they won’t be fed, they won’t be armed, they will will “call” their family and friends to tell them what a “**** show” their invasion / war is, that is before they die in a ditch for something they don’t believe in.

In the mean time, young Ukrainian men and women will fight for their homeland, and fight to their death for something THEY believe in while they are supported by people in free nations.

Lol “Ruzzia”

[PhilT2]

The weather will be the key for the next few months of this war. Rain has made travel off road difficult and temps have dropped to low single figures overnight. If the stories of the Russians inability to adequately supply their troops are true then a severe winter will see their problems get a lot worse. Sitting in a trench in minus 30C can't be fun.

I don't expect much to happen until the spring thaw; by then both sides will have built up their supplies of fuel and ammo and the killing will resume. Can't really see an end to this any time soon. Hope I'm wrong about that.

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by burnz

all weapons have a used by date, use them or lose them..
cheaper to use them and replace rather than dispose of them.

But once again, can't that argument be made for the other side of the equation too?

I don't get why on one side it is "military industrial complex getting rich", but on the other side it is good fiscal use of weapons nearing their use by date.

Meanwhile, looks like the Russian withdrawal from Kherson is in full swing. Is it simply recognising the perilous position they were in? The Russia TV guys are full swinging from depression to over-blown anger - they're great to watch, and over last week and a half are pushing the narrative of a holy war against the satanic west. Ukraine are no longer Nazis; they're now satanists - but interestingly even Russia TV drew the line at their producer who was saying the Ukrainian children should be drowned and burned

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Mulva

But once again, can't that argument be made for the other side of the equation too?

I don't get why on one side it is "military industrial complex getting rich", but on the other side it is good fiscal use of weapons nearing their use by date.

It’s hilarious, the Russians are using MRE’s 20 years past the “use by” date for their Cannon Fodder, lol

The Russian Trolls on here (you know who those “Ruzzian” trolls are), are hilarious too, I have them on ignore, they will spin the “Ruzzian” line because they are slaves to Putlers Facist nonsense.

Oh BTW: “Z” is the new Swastika, the Russian Trolls on here love it too. lol

[PooDog]

This whole threads hilarious......just a shame it's about something pretty serious

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by PooDog

This whole threads hilarious......just a shame it's about something pretty serious

I reckon Fordman doesn't like Russians