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08-07-2021, 10:35 AM | #12181 | |||
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I guess the 3rd needle is the booster shot? |
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08-07-2021, 11:01 AM | #12182 | ||
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Interesting article on the Australian Financial Review, its behind a paywall though.
Facts on COVID-19 that politicians won’t tell you https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210705-p586za Incog window + IP reset + search the bolded title and click on it from google instead of my link... and it all seems to be there for me... your mileage may vary though. |
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08-07-2021, 11:05 AM | #12183 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 7th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 32 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 2.949%. 5 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.941% and active cases 40. The UK had a higher 32,048 cases yesterday and lower 33 deaths. A higher 17,314 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 187 deaths sees CMR at 1.795%. Other notable points: Africa sets a new daily high with 43,725 cases; Fiji (791); Cyprus (952); Zimbabwe (2,264); Myanmar (3,947); Cuba (3,644); Thailand (6,519); Tunisia (9,823); and Indonesia (34,379) ... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Spain, Senegal and Algeria move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Bolivia drops below.
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08-07-2021, 11:09 AM | #12184 | |||
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And while that advice or warning was put out, peoples situations are not always so simple, black and white, there are variables in peoples individual circumstances. Some abroad were employed... and arent anymore, and have to come back. Their employment has been terminated for reasons out of their control. Some, probably understandably, wanted to wait it out as they had reasons for being abroad.. not knowing this would last so long.. and are now running out of money, or visa etc, ie not allowed to be where they are anymore. Some have partners overseas, or unwell relatives, and chose to stay, then eventually want or need to return. I have perused some of the groups online and there are all kinds of situations and stories out there. And now its even more frustrating in a sense for them when they can now move about so freely abroad, in many instances just with a negative test being the only hurdle at the airport. They are living one reality where they are and being presented with another when it comes to attempting to return. I saw one woman posted a pic on a plane in the US, domestic flight, she had some Australian people attack her on fb, saying things like stay away, you are lying the plane isnt full (it was full) , and going into tirades about not paying aussie tax.. also false as one does have to pay tax even if earned abroad as a citizen of oz. This woman wants to return to Australia because she lost her job in the US, and cant. NZ seems to do ok letting citizens back in, id have to go look at the numbers again but I recall it being more than Australia, perhaps even outright not just per capita. I will also add, the very small handful of people denied entry from abroad or travel across states to see dying parents/relatives... very very cruel. And the entire world is watching, often in disbelief. You would think exemptions could be granted albeit with precautions put in place, when its such small numbers of people in those circumstances. But when Hugh Jackman etc want to cruise in, no probs. Last edited by lumen8; 08-07-2021 at 11:20 AM. |
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08-07-2021, 11:23 AM | #12185 | ||
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08-07-2021, 11:43 AM | #12186 | |||
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Hang in their buddy as there is Australians who do still support you and others having the right to come home to your country. Some of our freedoms is being stifled unnecessary contrary to this pandemic. Cheers |
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08-07-2021, 11:48 AM | #12187 | ||
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[QUOTE=lumen8;6599989]
NZ seems to do ok letting citizens back in, id have to go look at the numbers again but I recall it being more than Australia, perhaps even outright not just per capita. We can come and go, there is no restriction on that, the problem is limited MIQ beds and a really cr*p booking system, which i think is done on purpose to slow things down, but yep if your a celeb or sports team you can travel with ease. |
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08-07-2021, 11:55 AM | #12188 | |||
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I don’t have statistics, but are there any other countries banning their own citizens returning?? Serious Question
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08-07-2021, 12:01 PM | #12189 | |||
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Those responsible for international quarantine (trying not be political) SHOULD have done their job.
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08-07-2021, 12:03 PM | #12190 | |||
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So not much was correct in your post.
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08-07-2021, 12:17 PM | #12191 | |||
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Also I wonder why we can’t organise/regulate home quarantine as an earner for people with suitable properties. Combine it with a tracking bracelet and the setup should be fairly sound. |
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08-07-2021, 12:25 PM | #12192 | ||
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I spose “technically” I am NOT “banned” from re-entry to Aus?
Ok, I have both jabs, as well as a negative covid test for travel, pay upwards of US$25k (for a guaranteed seat) for a one way ticket from West coast of America to Australia… And then also need to quarantine? (At MY expense!) Sounds awfully like they don’t want me back??
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08-07-2021, 12:35 PM | #12193 | ||||
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On the plus side they can travel out though if they want to/need to. Quote:
And yes as mentioned technically people can return, but the tickets are now in the tens of thousands of dollars apparently as mentioned. |
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08-07-2021, 12:52 PM | #12194 | |||
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know of someone who wanted to come back, but couldn't? I know of many people who have come back, some more than once, and the longest one had to wait was around 8 weeks.
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08-07-2021, 01:22 PM | #12195 | |||
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Person is 37 yo so cant get a job yet anyway to fly...
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08-07-2021, 02:21 PM | #12196 | |||
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08-07-2021, 02:59 PM | #12197 | ||
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08-07-2021, 03:16 PM | #12198 | |||
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West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has warned of a 'permanent' hard border with NSW.
https://www.9news.com.au/videos/heal...320hpoy8n2mnda NSW Premier responds to reports WA is considering ongoing hard border https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...arning-_080721 Quote:
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08-07-2021, 03:37 PM | #12199 | ||
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08-07-2021, 03:54 PM | #12200 | ||
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Know of a few who came back. Know one client who is flying out to the states next Wednesday she (75 years young) was given the Ok. They didn't dare denign her, Human rights Lawyer. She reckons she'll be gone for 4 months.
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08-07-2021, 05:06 PM | #12201 | ||
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"Health Minister Martin Foley said he would not rule out a hard border with NSW and warned more local government areas could be declared “red zones” as the coronavirus crisis deepens across Greater Sydney."
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/v...08-p587uk.html As for QLD, feel Anna has backed herself into a corner now. Any new restrictions invoked will put added pressure on her trip to Japan.
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08-07-2021, 05:24 PM | #12202 | |||
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Re reading that......I don't think I ever mentioned being against a vaccine or returning dual citizens. Personally I like working OS.
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08-07-2021, 05:48 PM | #12203 | |||
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They probably don’t even need to wait. |
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08-07-2021, 06:25 PM | #12204 | ||||
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PM urges earlier AstraZeneca second doses https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavi...jabs-c-3339771 Quote:
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08-07-2021, 06:51 PM | #12205 | |||
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08-07-2021, 06:53 PM | #12206 | |||
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So 5 out of 6 of them have their brakes outside of their car after doing the vacinated?" cool... Must be old cars...
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08-07-2021, 07:22 PM | #12207 | ||
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Gold standard Gladys
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08-07-2021, 08:40 PM | #12209 | ||||
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and yet it didnt protect them to the gold standard as suggested in the post i quoted and as your statement that i quoted these from the age care facility shouldnt have been infected at all , because they had been vaccinated. Quote:
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08-07-2021, 08:55 PM | #12210 | ||
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Never mind the GSS, QLD has me irked. First a number of people have been excluded from dying family - the way Sarah Caisip was stalked by the media in her social-distanced, PPE-suited, no-contact-allowed grieving was a memorable low point. Moving along, we have a blanket statement that young people shouldn’t get a certain vaccine because of risk of health issues. Then a statement from the same utterer, praising the heroics of medical staff who rushed to save someone despite their lack of PPE. And a Premier who is saying that teleconferencing doesn’t cut it for a significant business occasion yet it was plenty good enough for others to watch family die on Skype or Zoom.
I’m no fan of Premier Berejiklian or her party, but believe she has shown more consistency than the leadership in Queensland. My concern at the present moment, is that the approach of heavy-handed police monitoring in suburbs where they seem to often encounter friction already, could be inflaming - not helping - the progress of outbreak tracking and mitigation. |
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