Russia v Ukraine

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by burnz

oddly zelensky wan'ts the US to go to war with Iran

What Zelensky wants and what he gets is another matter, I know he is asking for Israel support but asking for USA to go to war with Iran is nonsense.

[Fordman1]

The “Ruzzian” trolls here are with Putler, and they need to “win” to feel good about themselves.

In the mean time, brave Ukrainian citizens are trying to make the best with what that they have, whilst foreign savages try to murder them, and steal their washing machines.

First world problems on an Australian Forum hey ?

[tichman]

The facts are no matter what "lol"s some wrap their deluded comments in, Ukraine is losing and will lose. The US is already behind the scenes looking at ways to extract itself from the mess it has created and pursued. The only real way for that to happen is for the Ukraine to seek peace and accept it will not and cannot join Nato.

As has been shown in past major conflicts, a nations ability to wage war relies on raw materials and man power, the Ukraine loses to Russia on both count and it is becoming clearer by the day that Europeans have finally started to grow weary of sending more and more money and resourses to Ukraine to fight a war that didn't need to happen and is only penalising them through the sanctions etc.

Even the Ukrainians are becoming disillusioned with their countries leader now that the real effects of a war such as power and water infrastructure is being knocked out with 75% blackouts in Ukraine becoming regular and all this coming after the Wests MSM has been telling everyone that Russia was short on stocks of missiles etc.

Only the naive, ignorant, deluded or downright stupid believe that Russia will lose what it has reunited back to it's country. Putin has seen in recent months Bojo and Truss (whos comments re beating Putin did not age particularly well) come and go and will see more European and most likely another US president shown the door in his time.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by tichman

The facts are no matter what "lol"s some wrap their deluded comments in, Ukraine is losing and will lose. The US is already behind the scenes looking at ways to extract itself from the mess it has created and pursued. The only real way for that to happen is for the Ukraine to seek peace and accept it will not and cannot join Nato.

As has been shown in past major conflicts, a nations ability to wage war relies on raw materials and man power, the Ukraine loses to Russia on both count and it is becoming clearer by the day that Europeans have finally started to grow weary of sending more and more money and resourses to Ukraine to fight a war that didn't need to happen and is only penalising them through the sanctions etc.

Even the Ukrainians are becoming disillusioned with their countries leader now that the real effects of a war such as power and water infrastructure is being knocked out with 75% blackouts in Ukraine becoming regular and all this coming after the Wests MSM has been telling everyone that Russia was short on stocks of missiles etc.

Only the naive, ignorant, deluded or downright stupid believe that Russia will lose what it has reunited back to it's country. Putin has seen in recent months Bojo and Truss (whos comments re beating Putin did not age particularly well) come and go and will see more European and most likely another US president shown the door in his time.

Big call Tichman. Happy to bookmark this one for a review in two years time and see where we landed.


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[Fordman1]

I forgot to mention that the same idiots that love Trump, also pretty much love Putler.

Their family is pretty much proud of them I’m sure, good on “them” for having an opinion.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Big call Tichman. Happy to bookmark this one for a review in two years time and see where we landed.


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Lol, the Putler lover will eat his words.

[tichman]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Lol, the Putler lover will eat his words.

Thanks for proving my comment on the type who think Ukraine will win this to be correct, you even added the "lol"! Well done, you get a nice gold star and a stamp on the back of your hand champ.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Big call Tichman. Happy to bookmark this one for a review in two years time and see where we landed.


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I have these “Putler lovers” on Ignore.

It’s sad how they believe murdering Ukrainian citizens is ok, but I guess it’s part of their “Putler loving” culture, their culture and inability to see right from wrong is out of the Nazi playbook.

Are these people even Australian citizens, or are they posting from
some Russian Scammer account / website overseas ?

[tichman]

Some "lol"one wants another gold star and a rubber stamp....

[burnz]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

So these parties couldn't take part in the 2019 election because they were locked up in 2022???

https://twitter.com/FromSteveHowell/...icy-imposed%2F

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Lol, the Putler lover will eat his words.

Think you fail to understand it is all in fun.

[hackney]

Join the Army he said! See the ‘world’ it will be fun! VP.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

The “Ruzzian” trolls here are with Putler, and they need to “win” to feel good about themselves.

In the mean time, brave Ukrainian citizens are trying to make the best with what that they have, whilst foreign savages try to murder them, and steal their washing machines.

First world problems on an Australian Forum hey ?

We’re are all these ‘Ruzzian’ trolls you speak about? I have not seen any.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by hackney

We’re are all these ‘Ruzzian’ trolls you speak about? I have not seen any.

They’re here, I have them on ignore

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by hackney

We’re are all these ‘Ruzzian’ trolls you speak about? I have not seen any.

They're in the same place as the Russian pee-pee tapes.

On planet nonexistent.

[FairmontGS]

Whilst on the topic of "non-existent", that pretty well describes the Russian Army defense west of the Dnipro River.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63578919

[Syndrome]

So has anybody asked the question - what were the Bidens doing in Ukraine?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

So has anybody asked the question - what were the Bidens doing in Ukraine?

as in the laptop, swindling $1.1billion for there pocket..

[burnz]

for those who think zelenskyy isn't a puppet of the US government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPc9pMtrP08

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

So has anybody asked the question - what were the Bidens doing in Ukraine?

Careful, asking those sorts of questions will make you an anti democratic, anti west, pro war Ukranian people hater, and a looney that needs to be ignored.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

So has anybody asked the question - what were the Bidens doing in Ukraine?

Having a holiday!! Taking in the sites!

[Mulva]

When Russia took Kherson early in their invasion the residents took to the streets in protest even though Russian troops were using rubber bullets on them.

Looks like the Kherson residents are now out in the streets in celebration - so many, and yet must be just the 3% that didn't vote Russia in the recent referendum, hey?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by hackney

Having a holiday!! Taking in the sites!

This is what the Russian trolls will revert to, something about Biden and MAGA, lol

No, the war is not about Ukrainians being murdered by Russians, it’s all about “What about” trolling and MAGA caps.

[FairmontGS]

Interesting update from the ISW today, obviously deciding to not reveal until now what they knew about the Ukraine army tactics that forced Russia to abandon Kherson and west of the Dnipro.

Ukraine’s success resulted in large part from the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ (UAF’s) innovative use of the US-provided HIMARS precision rocket system to disrupt Russian supply lines.

The HIMARS munitions the US has given Ukraine are not suitable for destroying bridges—their warheads are too small and are not optimized for such strikes. The UAF developed a tactic to work around that limitation by conducting multiple precision strikes across the key Antonivskiy Bridge and the road that ran atop the Kakhovka Dam in such a way as to break the roadways in a line across them, rendering them unusable without actually destroying the bridges’ infrastructure (or badly damaging the dam).[5] The UAF continued to strike the bridges as the Russians sought to repair them, targeting the repair equipment as well as the roadways until the Russians finally gave up.

The Russians attempted to construct a pontoon bridge under the Antonivskiy Bridge as a mitigation, but the UAF attacked that effort as well, causing the Russians to abandon it.[6] The Russians were left at the end with barges ferrying supplies, equipment, and reinforcements from the east to the west bank.[7] The UAF attacked the barges and landing areas as well, but the ferry system was in any case insufficient to supply the 20,000-some Russian mechanized troops trying to hold their lodgment on the western bank of the river.[8]

It was clear that the Russians would be unable to defend that lodgment by the time Russian Army General Sergey Surovikin took command of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on October 8.[9] Surovikin signaled his intention to withdraw from western Kherson almost immediately and likely began setting conditions to retreat within a couple of weeks.[10]

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...nt-november-13

[hackney]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Interesting update from the ISW today, obviously deciding to not reveal until now what they knew about the Ukraine army tactics that forced Russia to abandon Kherson and west of the Dnipro.



https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...nt-november-13

Off to the ‘Gulag’ for that General! How dare he withdraw the great Russki Army!!

[Citroënbender]

Is “Getting off at Kherson” going to be the Soviet Russian equivalent of “Getting off at Gateshead/Redfern/etc”? Ya prav, tovarishchiy?

[buggerlugs]

Could get interesting now......https://www.news.com.au/world/europe...20eaea882eba25

[Citroënbender]

Overshot Lviv by about 30km. Early photos suggest a basic missile of some sort was indeed the culprit.

[Fordman1]

Here is a link to something called “VRANYO” the Russian Culture of lies (especially in their military).

The YouTube users’ name is “Perun”, I believe he’s Australian ?


https://youtu.be/Fz59GWeTIik

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Overshot Lviv by about 30km. Early photos suggest a basic missile of some sort was indeed the culprit.

where never going to know who actually fired it tho.