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07-08-2022, 06:08 PM | #1291 | ||
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This will seem counter intuitive but seats that seem soft and comfy can be extremely uncomfortable on longer drives. Conversely some seats that appear too firm after a short drive are far superior on a longer drive.
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07-08-2022, 06:23 PM | #1292 | ||
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I’m not so sure about the massive touch screen.
Sure it looks amazing and everything worked well without any lag. But trying to use it while driving is difficult and takes your attention from the road. With physical buttons you learn where they are over time and can use them without looking or with just a quick glance. I’ve spent some time driving a new xls and there’s certainly a lot of tech in it for an almost base model. Adaptive cruise, auto high beam, wireless Apple car play, twin turbo 2.0 and 10 speed auto and the list goes on. Quite impressive. |
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07-08-2022, 06:46 PM | #1293 | |||
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When I first sat in the front seats of our MC Mondeo Titanium, my first though was how firm they were. Titanium and XR5 were fitted with sport seats with a mix of leather and Alcantara. When we drove from Melbourne to Adelaide, those firm seats were a revelation. Driving a Falcon, or even a Mustang for those km's, I would have numb bum pretty soon. The Mondeo seats on the other hand were brilliant.
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07-08-2022, 07:38 PM | #1294 | ||
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The Block has just started tonight.
It feels like bad timing, Ford sponsors the show and provides rangers. They are PXIII. Would you not think they would rather put another Ford in the hands of the contestants for advertising?
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07-08-2022, 07:46 PM | #1295 | ||
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Knowing the timing of the shows airing date being so close to release of new Ranger, and the fact filming began months and months ago, so no access to new rangers for them, giving then some Transit's to use (would be just as good) would of made more sense and move them into new Ranger when and if they can before the end of filming...
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07-08-2022, 10:21 PM | #1296 | |||
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07-08-2022, 10:43 PM | #1297 | |||
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I found most of what was needed while driving was on the steering wheel anyway. I love the one touch cruise control. I don’t even mind the over speed warning when you hit a change in speed limits. It’s quite subtle. Well done Ford. |
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08-08-2022, 11:25 AM | #1298 | |||
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Keep your eyes open for a special challenge from inside the Ford design studio as well. They really want to sell the australian designed part to the viewing public. |
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08-08-2022, 12:25 PM | #1299 | ||
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I live a couple of blocks for one of the previous builds and by the time it's on TV they are almost only maintaining the gardens of the houses and final preps for auction.
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08-08-2022, 02:52 PM | #1301 | ||
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A close business associate picked their new V6 XLT the other day and reported "vibrations" whilst driving......
Tailshaft way out back for review/repair to the dealer.
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08-08-2022, 04:26 PM | #1302 | ||
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The Sync thing in the old mans Fiesta ST works quite well with me, and I'm not exactly the easiest to understand person getting around apparently (maybe just to Queenslanders )
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09-08-2022, 01:16 PM | #1303 | |||
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Early prototype Ranger Raptor reviews: Quote:
https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/202...pe-test-drive/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMriL0nT-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ga4I-zzwg Last edited by Dr Smith; 09-08-2022 at 01:33 PM. |
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09-08-2022, 01:32 PM | #1304 | |||
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Then when the new V6TT Raptor was announced he placed an order. The first thing someone replies to him in the comments was about the price of fuel and how no one can afford to run the new Ranger Raptor so why bother. Always with the fuel costs - its like people have this huge chip on their shoulder someone has bought something nice for themselves. Like the moment one of the car manufacturers comes out with a beast there's a bunch of losers who weren't ever going to buy one come out and start faffing on about fuel prices I used to have an 1980s F100, did 35L/100km, meh. Might as well as get the pump and then pour your 98 down the drain and go pay for it, at least 351C converted it into a nice noise Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 09-08-2022 at 01:43 PM. |
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09-08-2022, 01:43 PM | #1306 | |||
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There’s plenty of buyer who don’t give a toss about fuel economy. V8 sales increased last year. |
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09-08-2022, 03:25 PM | #1307 | |||
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09-08-2022, 03:58 PM | #1308 | ||
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09-08-2022, 04:06 PM | #1309 | ||
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Read futher down in the comments, he says
"Ordered a Wildtrak premium V6 because of diesel. If Raptor goes diesel later on, will consider. But for now, is a petrol Raptor suitable for touring? Petrol at upwards of $2.50 per litre, ($3 to $4 outback), I think will hurt sales but once the mystic and hype dies away, Ford may then realize more sales are to be tapped with diesel variant." Seriously $4 a litre...., he is just being sensational. It's not Mad Max time yet. Maybe he should have ordered the Bi Turbo if he cant afford the fuel.... By the way, Premium 98 is $1.79 / litre near me |
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10-08-2022, 09:06 AM | #1310 | ||
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Here's some simple maths for those whinging about fuel prices and economy. Let's say you do 20,000 kms per year. And you average 10 litres per 100 km (just using round figures for ease of understanding). So you're going to use 2,000 litres per year. At $2.00 per litre, that would be $4,000 a year in fuel. At $1.50 per litre, you'd spend $3,000. I consider a $0.50 change in fuel price pretty big. So if fuel prices go up $0.50 per litre, it will cost you an extra $1,000 on top of what you would have paid if there was no change to the fuel price. Conversely, if fuel prices go down $0.50, you save $1,000 in a year. When your talking about a $90,000 (again, round figures) vehicle in the case of the Raptor, a difference of +/- $1,000 running costs is bugger all. I reckon most people buying a Raptor (or any vehicle at that price point) could probably afford the extra $1,000 a year. Put it into weekly terms, the extra $1,000 per year is less than $20 a week. Which is now 3 pots of beer, or 4 coffees, or 1/3 of a pack of smokes, or 2 lettuces. Bugger all really.
After watching the above video, I really wish I could fit a Raptor into my lease terms, but I can't. So I'll probably have to settle for the Wildtrak with the V6. I can live with that. |
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10-08-2022, 09:33 AM | #1311 | |||
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10-08-2022, 10:32 AM | #1312 | ||
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Well I've had both my Next Gens for a few days now. 1 x Sport Touring Pack Bi turbo and 1 x Wildtrak V6 (was meant to be premium pack but you can blame Fords bean counters for that). The V6 is a much nicer package, while it isn't much quicker the overall smoothness of the motor is what really makes it. The sport I bought was to replace an XL 2.2 we had so I settled on the 2.0. I don't totally hate it but its hard to wear after driving the V6. Fuel economy in both around Brisbane is 9 for the Bi turbo and 12.5 for the V6.
Things i like: - Build quality seems good, inc paint. - New tech is good, seems to work in both with no lag yet some have reported lag in the bigger 12 inch on the Wildtrak. - Steering is improved over PX3 and overall ride. - Dash cup holders in Wildtrak (should be standard on all grades). - Aircon vents in rear Things I dont like: - Narrower wheel / tyre package. - No rear floor mats in either car, like seriously Ford? - No scuff plates on Wildtrak standard (had to buy them). - No auto handbrake when park selected. - Still no auto lock on the doors, FG Falcons had this 14 years ago yet we still can't seem to get it in a ranger. - The dash cluster is low rent especially on the Wildtrak (should have had the Raptor / Platinum one). I can accept it on the XLT / Sport for what it is. - Dash hard plastics on Wildtrak, the PX3 seemed better? - Lack of accessories available at launch. They have designed them but no stock? I am probably being a bit critical here but I guess the PX3 was such a good car, its hard to beat? Id give the Wildtrak a 9 out of 10 and the Sport a 7 out of 10. I think the V6 is definitely the way to go, the Bi turbo isn't a nice place to be its just too thrashy.
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10-08-2022, 10:37 AM | #1313 | |||
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Edit - someone asked about this feature on a ZG Escape and got this response https://www.fordforums.com.au/showpo...51&postcount=4 More info in the thread here https://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11486591
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10-08-2022, 11:27 AM | #1315 | |||
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Either way, I miss the feature too. Doors can still be manually locked when you're driving so not sure what the difference is.
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10-08-2022, 11:56 AM | #1316 | ||
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I figured that was the case.
My Ram 1500 still does it thankfully, but none of my other cars do (Mustang, Escape or Rangers). I assumed it was a safety issue, but in this day in age its a safety issue not to have it.
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10-08-2022, 01:15 PM | #1317 | ||
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The 10mm narrower tyre isn't really an issue, as the tyre is also taller, giving the footprint on the road a slightly bigger patch, and more ground clearance.
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10-08-2022, 02:47 PM | #1319 | ||
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sorry to hear that. it's a known issue and there are a fleet of guys running round all dealers to fix cars already delivered. Must have missed your mate's
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10-08-2022, 02:59 PM | #1320 | ||
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Not long ago, we were looking at $2.50/L for September, now it’s back under $1.70/L.
All the BS seems to be evaporating as a sort of normalcy comes back to fuel prices… V6 Ranger Raptors and V6 Diesel Rangers both rock, I hope Ford sell a ton of them. |
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