Covid 19 -

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

ABC is calling a lockdown. Post says both Victoria and Melbourne.

ABC understands Victoria will go into lockdown
The ABC understands the State Government will soon announce Melbourne will go back into lockdown due to a growing cluster of covid cases in the city's west.

Eight new case were reported in the state today.

Details of what the lockdown will entail are expected later today.

Victorian presser expected between 4 and 5.

E: now this clarification
Clarification: Melbourne to go into lockdown
Sorry for the confusion, I've updated the previous post: Our information is that only Melbourne will go into lockdown. I'll keep you updated.

8.................8............................... you have to be kidding me

[cheap]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Unfortunately all hidden to non-members. Ah well.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

All of Vic lockdown from 8pm tonight for 7 days.

[Fordman1]

Lock down 6, I’m effing over this

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

I know I said I would not comment anymore with this topic but on this occasion I will.

I don't know about your GP but the GP's I have had over the years sure do talk to me about the risks of some medicines that can have on you, in fact many times they warn me of some symptoms the medicines that can effect you so I guess there are some good GP's as there is quacks out there!

In my case with the AZ vaccination my doctor spelled out all the pro's and cons and left the decision for consent with me which I expected if I was to go ahead with it.

He never urged me to take AZ so no political influence IMO in which I decided to have it.



Cheers

Are you under 40? It wasn't my GP. I'm just over 40, qualified for Pfizer, and got it when it was made available, so I've not had to ask this question of any GP. Hence I was curious if anyone here, under 40, had asked, and what the response was. So much angst from such a simple question

Originally Posted by FTE217

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Now for real my 2 sons @ 28/21 have had AZ jabs + fiance of eldest.
Just as CB quoted, your asked about your medical and family history, etcetc so they have an understanding of your background health as you'd expect.
Explained the minimal risks no diff to any vaccine or drug for we're all different.
All got the tick of approval and said yes please poke me !

Seriously man.

edit, and may I say, this was up to them, they are ****ed off, they want their lives back just as all of us.
Do we like having to do so ? ofcourse not but at the same time they the wife and I want to get all of us back on the road to freedom.
The more that do the better.
I won't hold anything towards who chose not to thats life BUT we who are putting the front foot forward are the ones opening the door imo.
We might have 3 heads by next decade but it didn't happen with the previous jabs/other decease's so the odds seem to be worth the shot or jab

Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. All the previous stuff is not necessary, you don't always have to have a dig

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

ABC is calling a lockdown. Post says both Victoria and Melbourne.

ABC understands Victoria will go into lockdown
The ABC understands the State Government will soon announce Melbourne will go back into lockdown due to a growing cluster of covid cases in the city's west.

Eight new case were reported in the state today.

Details of what the lockdown will entail are expected later today.

Victorian presser expected between 4 and 5.

E: now this clarification
Clarification: Melbourne to go into lockdown
Sorry for the confusion, I've updated the previous post: Our information is that only Melbourne will go into lockdown. I'll keep you updated.

All in .

Did they find out where all these mystery cases came from yet? Was is a hangover from the previous outbreak?

[yakcam]

Jesus, that's a HUGE percentage of the Australian population now in lockdown.

[Metdevil]

Originally Posted by PG2

For those of that have read this post before I edited it will understand with what I am about to say.

THIS IS THE SORT OF POST THAT STARTS ARGUMENTS IN THIS THREAD AND EITHER GETS IT CLOSED DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME OR GETS THE USER A HOLIDAY.

Metdevil, I may be wrong, but I get the feeling you are in this field so I won't be giving you a warning, however, next time you won't be so lucky.



Everyone, please play nice.

That's fair, thanks PG2.

For clarity, I do not work in this field, don't want anyone to be misled thinking I do.
I generally provide sources for anything I refer to, or when I make a counter-argument, but it's all publicly available information.

[Bossxr8]

We’ll just lock down every few weeks. Be next to no business’s left soon. Dictator dan loves this.

[Citroënbender]

I believe it’s near becoming an egotistical battle. Victoria and Queensland are determined to “show” NSW how it’s done.

[Work Horse]

Lockdowns go hard go early and in Victoria's case, go often

[asagaai]

Melbourne in lockdown.

Sydney, Wollongong and now Newcastle and Hunter lockdown.

Brisbane lockdown.

In percentage terms and logistics the engine room of Australia in lockdown.

The cost is astronomical to Australia.

I know one should not look with the wisdom of hindsight, but if Australia had spent the money for purpose designed stand alone quarantine facilities at the outset, and had Scott Morrison not penny pinched on vaccine costs and throttled Pfizer in favour of the cheaper Astra, things might be looking different now.

Is that saying- penny wise pound poor.

And another one- it's not a race.....

[T3rminator]

So what happens to all the Vics stuck in the ski fields at 8pm?!

Originally Posted by cheap

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Interesting, reminds me of a trader's chart. Who is he, what is his background? And how accurate is this technical analysis on previous outbreaks in other states, or countries?

[slowsnake]

I already asked in an earlier post T3, I think it's a dude called Rick Penney?
I mentioned too just how pretty the charts were, it looked to me as though the blue dots can only fit between the 3 graph lines, as in easily predictive, me not the best at that stuff


Cheers Billy

[Citroënbender]

Who else here is a fan of Zoe Amanda Wilson and the “Australien Government” adverts? I saw one about hotel quarantine the other day which was probably NSFW due to swearing but still good.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by russellw

Regardless of what our politically expedient masters might be telling us the WHO recommendation for AstraZeneca doses remains at an 8-12 week gap and they further state that "...longer dose intervals within the 8 to 12 weeks range are associated with greater vaccine efficacy."

Speaking to a mate of mine in the UK tonight, he is in his 30s, and he said he waited 5 weeks between doses. He said many just wanted to take what they were given so that they could end the lock downs, which they had been under since January. Also the cases and deaths were much higher, so they weren't really all that concerned with efficacy rates. Its an interesting thought process, to not want to sacrifice another week or 2 after 18 months of a pandemic. Under 6 weeks saw a significant drop in efficacy compared to over 6 weeks.

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Who else here is a fan of Zoe Amanda Wilson and the “Australien Government” adverts? I saw one about hotel quarantine the other day which was probably NSFW due to swearing but still good.

Already been shared I think

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Are you under 40? It wasn't my GP. I'm just over 40, qualified for Pfizer, and got it when it was made available, so I've not had to ask this question of any GP. Hence I was curious if anyone here, under 40, had asked, and what the response was. So much angst from such a simple question

No agnst from me; I just say it how it is.
cheers.

[Streets]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I believe it’s near becoming an egotistical battle. Victoria and Queensland are determined to “show” NSW how it’s done.

someone has to

[FairmontGS]

https://twitter.com/meladoodle/statu...87630636687367

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

https://twitter.com/meladoodle/statu...87630636687367

Just goes to show lockdown fatigue is a real thing; it sends people batty. Oh, hang on....

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Just goes to show lockdown fatigue is a real thing; it sends people batty. Oh, hang on....

Oh very clever




Cheers Billy

[shedcoupe]

If anything illustrates the muppetry in management and marketing it’s quarantine facilities.
Knocking up a mining camp outside major cities is a piece of cake given the will to do it, rather than relying on airless hotel rooms where it’s possible to be infected by opening doors.
So the competency of every other aspect of pandemic management is put into doubt.
The world’s not perfect but some decisions being made are pathetic.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Doughnut day for Vic

PS I refuse to spell it the American way, although it seems far more common in the Australian media of late.

My apologies to all Vicotrians: I may have celebrated (even though it was a reluctant one) a little too early.

Originally Posted by Polyal

8.................8............................... you have to be kidding me

It's not the raw number that is driving the decision. It is the fact that there were five of those cases that could not be traced back to known cases, and the potential for them to all have been in the community whilst infectious.

Based on results from other jurisdictions (and this is not a criticism, rather it is just an observation), it doesn't take long for the Delta variant to get out of control unless you put in place measures to control it.

Personally, I would have waited another day before making the decision, but I think the Vic government is a little gushy given the disastrous consequences experienced in the state last year. I know there's a few on here who are happy to voice their opinion that the Vic government is too quick to put the state in lockdown, but I think they are doing the right thing. I'd rather them be cautious than allow this to get out of control. I'm a cautious person by nature (and by training) so it sits comfortably with me. But, I also appreciate that the impact of lockdown to me, and those around me, is limited and others impacted more by it may have a different view point.

[Mulva]

Grew up in regional SA (South East). If you asked my old school-mate or anyone that knew him what he did for a crust they used to tell you he was a "super-spreader"...these days he "delivers/distributes fertilisers such as superphosphate"

[cheap]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Just goes to show lockdown fatigue is a real thing; it sends people batty. Oh, hang on....

Sharknado ... too easy!

Melbourne lockdown challenge:

Bronze Medal: Batman 9 sequels
Silver Medal: James Bond 25 sequels
Gold Medal: 36 Godzilla sequels

Go for Gold Dan !

[Citroënbender]

I was able to read this without a paywall:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...05-p58gb9.html

Not surprising, yet disappointing.

[ford71V8]

Vic number plates can now be ordered stamped with "Victoria - The Lockdown State"

[russellw]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

Vic number plates can now be ordered stamped with "Victoria - The Lockdown State"

Would you prefer the NSW ones instead: "NSW - The Too Late State".

It's got nothing to do with interstate rivalry - this is about two different philosophical approaches being taken by the respective State Governments in terms of how they deal with the perceived threat and I suspect a lot of that has to do do with the past and how they were perceived to handled issues previously.

We all know that NSW somehow managed to get away with the Ruby Princess debacle in terms of impact within that State whereas Victoria didn't get away with the impacts from the 2nd wave last year.

The former seems to have created a fairly laid back response whereas the latter has created some understandable caution and I, for one, have no issue with that.

A week ago, I looked at the NSW progress so here is an update.

During the Victorian outbreak last year, Victoria recorded 19,369 cases over the 82 days between 29th June and 18th September with a single day peak of 725 on the 5th August.

At this stage (28 days in), the NSW average case growth rate is better than Victoria (1.092 v 1.130) with 4,020 cases to date but my modelling shows that there will probably be another ~7,000 cases over the next 6 weeks.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I believe it’s near becoming an egotistical battle. Victoria and Queensland are determined to “show” NSW how it’s done.

Professor Bill Bowtell agrees with other states 'hard lockdown' approach.

NSW COVID-19 approach not working, NSW needs to drastically overhaul its approach to coronavirus restrictions or face worsening cases, Professor Bill Bowtell has warned.

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/heal...210hl3ajpj07h3

[Tonz]

Finally decided to visit this thread, holey moley, fair go I do live in a sheltered part of SA, had 2 reported cases last year both numbats who were in Adelaide and hadnt changed addresses..
We all run around with our masks on and supposedly do the right thing.
Any terrorist tourists arrive in the 'vans are bluntly asked where they have come from, where they are staying, how soon before you leave. Police are VERY aware of visitors and keep track of them.

Its been difficult for businesses but they are all surviving and happy to shut down rather than be accused of being a hot spot.

I feel for you outsiders and the know it alls you have to live with.

We can bit ch about Mr Morrison but ALL govmints are flying by the seat of their pants. I would not want his job for all the money in the world, do I agree with everything his team has done? no but still appreciate they are prepared to try things, I only gets hard with state leaders arguing.