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Old 23-11-2022, 04:14 PM   #1381
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just to muddy it up..

if joe biden was killed, fair game or not??
Depends - where was he at the time?

I'd say Iran would say yes, not sure about other participants.
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Old 23-11-2022, 04:27 PM   #1382
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An interesting article that predates the current situation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...spicious-ways/

I’m starting to believe that Dasha Dugin was killed by a home team; whether it was a shot across the bows for her father or a mistake by the assassins, I’m less sure of picking. If the latter then he is probably safe for now, it would be perhaps too obvious if he suicided at the moment.
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Old 23-11-2022, 05:32 PM   #1383
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Why on earth are you even on this forum? You give nothing of value.Do you even own a car? Just a sarcastic individual.
No, just a person that loves his poor life, and a lonely person that posts on the internet, and says murdering people is Ok.

Our son is 4, hopefully he doesn’t meet people in that blokes family.
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Old 23-11-2022, 07:18 PM   #1384
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When you move into a state of recognised armed conflict (which Russia/Ukraine have) and you are dealing with a head of state who has tactical control over their armed forces, then he/she becomes a legitimate military target.
Interesting read of political assassination in war which might contradict your statement.

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/assassination-law-of-war/
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Old 23-11-2022, 07:46 PM   #1385
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Interesting read of political assassination in war which might contradict your statement.

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/assassination-law-of-war/
Not my statement, it's what came out during the Iraqi war when it was proven that Saddam was legitimate target, the reverse side of that coin was so was Bush.

The commander of the armed forces, no matter whether they wear a uniform or not, is a legitimate target, not just the grunts.
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No, just a person that loves his poor life, and a lonely person that posts on the internet, and says murdering people is Ok.

Our son is 4, hopefully he doesn’t meet people in that blokes family.
He is just a warped individual, as I alluded to why is he on here? He never posts in the vehicle section.Just a troll as far as I am concerned.
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In that vein, I wish all the people who frantically barrack for certain aspects of American politics as though it were ours, a Happy Thanksgiving.

Another pretty rotten twenty-four hours for parts of Ukraine. Loss of water, power and the cherry on top - Russian ordinance striking a maternity ward.
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Can we stop with the personal sniping, it serves no purpose other than to encourage a retaliatory post.
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Another pretty rotten twenty-four hours for parts of Ukraine. Loss of water, power and the cherry on top - Russian ordinance striking a maternity ward.
There's good news as well; the UK has agreed to provide the updated, long range Brimstone missile and some helicopters. Other countries have agreed to provide more air defense equipment. There is still a chance of policy change that may see the US hand over the long range missiles Ukraine has been asking for and Germany approve the delivery of the leopard tanks that Spain wants to give to Ukraine.

Growing up I had neighbours who survived the blitz in London in WW2. These attacks may have the same effect and serve to unify Ukraine and strengthen their will to fight.
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Depends - where was he at the time?

I'd say Iran would say yes, not sure about other participants.
he doesn't know where he is anytime..
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Keep in mind MSM's & governments history of narratives & coverage of past wars & then what we've learnt, in the months - years following........
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No, just a person that loves his poor life, and a lonely person that posts on the internet, and says murdering people is Ok.

Our son is 4, hopefully he doesn’t meet people in that blokes family.

Yep not a chance, way above your pay grade.
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... it's what came out during the Iraqi war when it was proven that Saddam was legitimate target, the reverse side of that coin was so was Bush.

The commander of the armed forces, no matter whether they wear a uniform or not, is a legitimate target, not just the grunts.
You are liberating US propoganda rhetoric.

Just in case you didn't know, the US refuses to abide by the International criminal court, even though it accuses others of war crimes and that they should be held to account by the same court.

The US assasinates with impunity by refusing to be bound by it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Criminal_Court
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You are liberating US propoganda rhetoric.

Just in case you didn't know, the US refuses to abide by the International criminal court, even though it accuses others of war crimes and that they should be held to account by the same court.

The US assasinates with impunity by refusing to be bound by it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Criminal_Court
Not at all, that was just one quick example and i am far from a US fan so forget about going down that well worn track with me mate, keep looking....

I will give you a clue though, it is illegal to assassinate a head of state, but you need to figure out the rest
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Old 26-11-2022, 02:06 AM   #1395
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I have said many times that Putin should meet a bullet. He is commander in chief and is fair game. But I have always said it should be Russians that deliver it.

Zelenskyy is on the ground and has met with many world leaders there on the ground including Albo. Putin is hiding like a bitch, even bitched out on G20
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Not at all, that was just one quick example and i am far from a US fan so forget about going down that well worn track with me mate, keep looking....

I will give you a clue though, it is illegal to assassinate a head of state, but you need to figure out the rest
Well said! Touché!
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Thread closed. I may consider re-opening it if something of interest happens. If anyone wants to let me know if something happens, send me a PM and I will consider it.

I would normally give a reason for the closing a thread but really can't be bothered with this one. I'm sure you all can work it out.
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