Covid 19 -

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

My problem is; how is it that Poland a former soviet state, has 50% of its population vaccinated and has Pfizer to spare when Australia has only 25% of the population vaccinated?

First in the queue we were told, that was a lie.

BS, Poland is NOT a former Soviet state, it’s an independent country that has existed since 966. It was occupied by the USSR after WW2.

Being ignorant is obviously NOT bliss

Your comment is dumb and racist.

Poland is also part of NATO and the EU.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Bars, eateries out of bounds for unjabbed under reopening plan

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/...jobid=29328896

This state is out of control. What decade are we living in?
I bet the people of this state will vote these morons back in next election too.
🤡🌏

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

BS, Poland is NOT a former Soviet state, it’s an independent country that has existed since 966. It was occupied by the USSR after WW2.

Being ignorant is obviously NOT bliss

Your comment is dumb and racist.

Poland is also part of NATO and the EU.

Getting off topic, but my Grandmother was from Lviv when it was part of Poland.
She spoke fluent Russian, forced to like all the other countries in the eastern block.
Poland was a satellite soviet state, but never part of the Soviet Union.

Countries of the former eastern block, are not as affluent as Australia. Very few countries are as affluent as Australia.
I'm suprised and a bit disappointed how many other countries are ahead of Australias vaccine roll out.
Nothing racists at all mate just how I see it.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Getting off topic, but my Grandmother was from Lviv when it was part of Poland.
She spoken fluent Russian, forced to like all the other countries in the eastern block.
Poland was a satellite soviet state, but never part of the Soviet Union.

Countries of the former eastern block, are not as affluent as Australia. Very few countries are as affluent as Australia.
I'm suprised and a bit disappointed how many other countries are ahead of Australias vaccine roll out.
Nothing racists at all mate just how I see it.

Lviv was called Lvov before WW2, and not a Soviet State until it was occupied, it is now part of the Ukraine.

Like I said it was occupied by the Soviets from 1945 until 1990.

Poland is part of the EU and has the same Pfizer deployment as most EU countries..

Disrespecting that Country is dumb and racist, (why is Poland part of the EU able to give us Pfizer ?).

Maybe it’s because we put all of our eggs in one basket, and we couldn’t get the other eggs ?

[Work Horse]

Thanks mate I have actually been to Lviv and have some idea of the history.

How have I disrespected Poland? Did I mention my grandmother was Polish?!

Perhaps do me the courtesy of reading what I actually posted before accusing me of being dumb and a racist.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Thanks mate I have actually been to Lviv and have some idea of the history.

How have I disrespected Poland? Did I mention my grandmother was Polish?!

Perhaps do me the courtesy of reading what I actually posted before accusing me of being dumb and a racist.

My apologies I’m referring to the original post.

You’re not racist I’m sure 👍

[russellw]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Just out of Curiosity Russell, How's Victoria's Actual figures trending compared to Your predictive Curve..???

Enquiring Minds & all that..!

I'll add it to the graph tomorrow.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Lviv was called Lvov before WW2, and not a Soviet State until it was occupied, it is now part of the Ukraine.

Like I said it was occupied by the Soviets from 1945 until 1990.

Poland is part of the EU and has the same Pfizer deployment as most EU countries..

Disrespecting that Country is dumb and racist, (why is Poland part of the EU able to give us Pfizer ?).

Maybe it’s because we put all of our eggs in one basket, and we couldn’t get the other eggs ?

Probably not the right the thread to discuss, but Poles are not a separate race the same way Australians are not either. It's a nation and its a culture.
Just because you may think someone is disrespecting a particular nationality doesn't mean that they are a 'racist'

Ignorant? Yes. Racist? Probably not.

[JasonACT]

I would drop the word "the" too - Ukrainians requested it, and I respect that.

But why the hell am I even here.. And why does my 81yo neighbour insist on walking over to me when I'm washing my car last weekend or arriving home from work on Friday.. Yeah, I know you're bored and arguing with the Mrs, but we're in lockdown and you shouldn't turn my 1 hour car-wash into a 2.25 hour experience of WTF!

In the middle of this "exchange" he noted, I shouldn't let my car dry without a chamois.. well f-off then and let me get on with it!

OK, I can't say any of these things, I like him - and want to keep things in the street going well, but don't ask me to come over and fix something I helped you with a couple of years ago... WE ARE IN LOCKDOWN!

No wonder we're screwed.

[Citroënbender]

I’ve got a few of them, one is a real liability to everyone including himself. Will shop multiple times a day most days, wanders over for chats with everyone.

I feel the “coming real soon” announcements by the NSW government predicated a near-immediate slackening of adherence to the regs in my area. More brazen group socialising, and the return at night of youths who just drive around to waste time, stopping at a nearby parade of shops to smoke and talk.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

I would drop the word "the" too - Ukrainians requested it, and I respect that.

But why the hell am I even here.. And why does my 81yo neighbour insist on walking over to me when I'm washing my car last weekend or arriving home from work on Friday.. Yeah, I know you're bored and arguing with the Mrs, but we're in lockdown and you shouldn't turn my 1 hour car-wash into a 2.25 hour experience of WTF!

In the middle of this "exchange" he noted, I shouldn't let my car dry without a chamois.. well f-off then and let me get on with it!

OK, I can't say any of these things, I like him - and want to keep things in the street going well, but don't ask me to come over and fix something I helped you with a couple of years ago... WE ARE IN LOCKDOWN!

No wonder we're screwed.

He's 81 years old?...you talk like he's a burden on you 24/7, he's just a lonely old man who does not understand what's happening with covid, cut him some slack eh


Cheers Billy

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by tweeked

How about rapid testing of all staff that are classed as contacts? As mentioned before, you get no false negatives, so you can be sure that those staff are ok. You then only "furlough" the positives, pcr test all of them and those that return negative on the Pcr go back to work and get a rapid test every day. You will have no staff shortages in our current situation, and maximise staffing in the future......

FWIW mate in London said they went test and trace, staff sent home, got tested within x days (no 14 day isolation), if negative, they came back. Risk is that they become positive after the test. He reckons that occurred more than officials were willing to admit, and a lot of infections happened at hospitals.

He also said a lot of retired health care professionals came out of retirement to help with resourcing. The public also stepped in, with millions volunteering to help, more than what was required, to do tasks that didn't require qualified health staff. Not sure how that would sit with the public here, hope we never have to find out.

[T3rminator]

What could go wrong?

Researchers Ready Lab-Grown Covid-19 Delta Variant for Human Trials
https://www.wsj.com/articles/researc...ls-11630053797

"LONDON—While the rest of the world is trying to stamp out the Covid-19 Delta variant, British researchers are making progress growing a carefully controlled batch in a lab that they hope to use to infect volunteers in studies.

The effort marks a new phase in the U.K.’s human challenge trials, the only Covid-19 studies in the world intentionally exposing participants to the virus with the goal of developing new vaccines and treatments. Other researchers are also isolating and growing Covid variant specimens for study. U.S. government-funded scientists are producing variants for research, but not for use in humans, a National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases official said."

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

What could go wrong?

Researchers Ready Lab-Grown Covid-19 Delta Variant for Human Trials
https://www.wsj.com/articles/researc...ls-11630053797

Why dont the public trust us .....we got everything right in the response to the pandemic ..............we've got Boris in control of it

[slowsnake]

I watched something on TV last night, could of been a Current Affair or maybe Foreign Correspondent or neither, but they investigated the Covid in China last year, that was made public but last night they mentioned the 3 Wuhan Lab workers taken ill in November 2019.
Apparently they said to someone, they had created a corona virus from bats that got out of hand?

Will look on internet today and try find source, they say honesty is the best policy!...it would of been in this case!

Cheers Billy

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

…a lot of retired health care professionals came out of retirement to help with resourcing. The public also stepped in, with millions volunteering to help, more than what was required, to do tasks that didn't require qualified health staff. Not sure how that would sit with the public here, hope we never have to find out.

It might go well here, if people could correlate it to a step forward and not just an incompetent administration extracting the Michael.

Researchers Ready Lab-Grown Covid-19 Delta Variant for Human Trials

The kind of scientists who, as children, would have tried to build a nuclear bomb in their backyard.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

.....The kind of scientists who, as children, would have tried to build a nuclear bomb in their backyard.

I'm more curious why they have to lab grow the delta variant....given its all around us, and they could just extract it from joe public's snot or phlegm...

Growing and "testing" new variants is interesting though....I'm sure this stuff happens all the time with trying to solve diseases, and we are just being made more aware of it now.

[five 7]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Growing and "testing" new variants is interesting though....I'm sure this stuff happens all the time with trying to solve diseases, and we are just being made more aware of it now.

All good till theres another whoopsie....... not me moment.

[slowsnake]

I keep hearing the words " Sheldon Cooper " lol, talking about making nuclear bombs in ya backyard, but seriously dident scientists at a place called Wuhan try to do what they want to do now?..ie, make or play around with virii to see if they can prove what they are guessing!

They tried that on Plum Island, Hello borrellia burgduforii, or Lyme disease.


Cheers Billy

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I’ve got a few of them, one is a real liability to everyone including himself. Will shop multiple times a day most days, wanders over for chats with everyone.

I feel the “coming real soon” announcements by the NSW government predicated a near-immediate slackening of adherence to the regs in my area. More brazen group socialising, and the return at night of youths who just drive around to waste time, stopping at a nearby parade of shops to smoke and talk.

I went to the supermarket yesterday to get some bread. Yesterday was a (relatively) beautiful day here (sunny, no wind) after a week of overcast, cool, wet days.

I had to wait out the front for a period of time as I waited for return of the owner of the car that I had just exchanged some paint with as I attempted to depart.

I don't know whether it was the weather, but I noted a distinct apathy amongst those entering and leaving the shops. Of those who actually had masks on, I estimate about half were wearing them correctly. The other half either had them not covering their nose or were wearing them on their chin. The number of those not wearing masks at all was significantly higher than what I have previously observed, too. I would estimate it at being between 10 and 15% of all the people I observed.

I also noted that a large portion (say, 30%) weren't even bothering to scan in.

Again, not sure if the weather was a factor, but it's pretty clear to me that people are over the whole covid thing. My observations yesterday reflect what I've seen in this thread too.

And I understand the Vic lockdown is expected to be extended by another week.

[Citroënbender]

Oh no! Not your FG-X that got scraped?

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

They tried that on Plum Island, Hello borrellia burgduforii, or Lyme disease.


Cheers Billy

You really should state that conspiracy theories are just that, rather than stating them as fact. One guy and a discredited book doesn't make a fact.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Oh no! Not your FG-X that got scraped?

Nah, it was the ute. No real damage done to either vehicle sans the paint swap. Other vehicle was a Mercedes van, so I was sh!tting myself that the owner would want a full respray

Owner was very good about it. Didn't seem stressed about it at all and appreciated that I hung around to let him know. We exchanged details but he said he'd give it a polish to see if he could get rid of the paint.

[Citroënbender]

NSW really kicking own goals today.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by tweeked

You really should state that conspiracy theories are just that, rather than stating them as fact. One guy and a discredited book doesn't make a fact.

What book?
What conspiracy theory?


Cheers Billy

[T3rminator]

Think we can safely say good bye to the GF. Really feel for Dees fans, 57 years since last flag, and they are looking really good for it this year.

Interesting language coming from Vic's presser today. Sounds like they are going to ease some very minor restrictions in the next couple of weeks even if numbers stay the same.

Personally I'd like to see the 5km limit removed.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT August 28th 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

1,122 new cases for Australia and 2 deaths so the CMR is 1.998%. NSW set a new record with 1,136 cases (surpassed today) and the 1,122 total is also a new record for Australia.

83 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.769%.

The UK had a lower 32,087 cases yesterday and higher 133 deaths for a CMR of 1.976%.

A higher 194,601 new cases in the USA yesterday and higher 1,632 deaths sees CMR at 1.653%.

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
Global deaths pass 4.5M, the last 500k in 5 days;
Asia passes 69M cases;

Australia (1,122); and
the Philippines (19,991)

... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Venezuela moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Bangladesh drops below.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I'm more curious why they have to lab grow the delta variant....given its all around us, and they could just extract it from joe public's snot or phlegm...

Growing and "testing" new variants is interesting though....I'm sure this stuff happens all the time with trying to solve diseases, and we are just being made more aware of it now.

Nah, its just a conspiracy theory, it's going around at present


Cheers Billy

[russellw]

As noted above, NSW set another record in the update today with 1,221 new cases which continues to move the 'actual' line above the predictive trend line - mostly because the 10-day average growth rate increased again from 1.059 to 1.069 and that's driving the trend.



The question was asked yesterday about how the current Victorian outbreak is trending compared to the NSW one and I said I'd graph it. For this purpose, I have picked July 15th as the commencement date which is debatable but I had to pick something and that was the first day in double digits this year.

Please note that the chart below looks at the 3rd order polynomial growth rate for both the 2020 and 2021 Victorian outbreaks and the current one in NSW.



As you can see, the initial growth rate in Victoria was slower than that in NSW but between days 18 and 44 it was actually higher but has tapered off the last few days although it will probably rise again given the current numbers (being a polynomial).

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

What book?
What conspiracy theory?


Cheers Billy

https://www.aldf.com/did-lyme-diseas...icks%20and%20B.