Covid 19 -

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The exception is not the rule.

i didnt say it was an exception or a rule but again try telling that to their parents
im not saying any of this is right or wrong but how many here complaining bout their rights would be as loud if not more so if it was some one close to them that died young or old
all these experts on here and still no cure to this virus

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

If we put in the same measure for influenza we could cut that death toll from 1,000s to 100s.

The number of people with a vaccine and the fact that many have been exposed previously would have a similar effect as social distancing and limiting people's movement.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by prydey

The number of people with a vaccine and the fact that many have been exposed previously would have a similar effect as social distancing and limiting people's movement.

So let us destroy our economy, our businesses and our savings every time somebody has a sniffle.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

So let us destroy our economy, our businesses and our savings every time somebody has a sniffle.

ok you have a week to find the cure and put the economy back together
and if you think this comment is silly its no less that yours

and the worlds economy is in the same boat not just ours

hell this stupid little virus was even enough to stop decades of war between certain nations , never seen the sniffles do that

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by wodahs

ok you have a week to find the cure and put the economy back together
and if you think this comment is silly its no less that yours

and the worlds economy is in the same boat not just ours

hell this stupid little virus was even enough to stop decades of war between certain nations , never seen the sniffles do that

But what about easter egg hunts!??

[CyberWasp]

when E98 is less than a $1 a litre at Costco and you can't go for a drive in the Mustang because of a virus........

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

So let us destroy our economy, our businesses and our savings every time somebody has a sniffle.

[Jack91]

Am i the only one expecting a big movement/civil unrest if this goes on much longer?
Im not even a socially active person, and im still working, but I'm angry.
If stage 4 comes in in vic and construction stops, grab the popcorn. I never, ever, EVER thought id say this, but thank god for the cfmeu.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Why? Just because I don't work in what has been defined as an essential service why should I be a prisoner in my house? I walked to the shops this morning as that is allowed. And I think I need some toothpicks so I will walk to the shops again this afternoon.

He's coming for you...

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Jack91

Am i the only one expecting a big movement/civil unrest if this goes on much longer?
Im not even a socially active person, and im still working, but I'm angry.
If stage 4 comes in in vic and construction stops, grab the popcorn. I never, ever, EVER thought id say this, but thank god for the cfmeu.

No you are not.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by wodahs

i didnt say it was an exception or a rule but again try telling that to their parents
im not saying any of this is right or wrong but how many here complaining bout their rights would be as loud if not more so if it was some one close to them that died young or old
all these experts on here and still no cure to this virus

People would do well to stop holding arrogant assumptions that I/we have not experienced loss in my/our lives.

The difference between me and the 'do-gooders' all too happy to throw others civil liberties down the toilet is that I don't hold an overinflated view of the worth of my own life or my families lives as living humans on this planet. There's 7,800,000,000 people on this planet and the FOUR of us from my family aren't special.

The cycle of life means that my parents, my sister and myself have been born on this planet on particular days and we've got a period of time until we all check out permanently.

Whether its because of old age or things outside of my/our control - it is what it is, we're all going to die some day.

Whether its a car accident, abusing my health, taking risks or just I got old and crapped out, its inevitable.

My Nonna who is 89 summed it up pretty well a couple of weeks ago over the phone - she said she has to die someday and that people should still be allowed to go about their business.

My observations about Australia and Australians in general is they cant handle others who value their freedom, which doesn't surprise me as the country was founded as a prison colony - convicts, can't live without someone else telling them what to do.

A nation of boot lickers that lacks initiative and free will, always requiring big brother to guide the way, such an apathetic group of humans who are so disengaged with politics in this country but then on the other hand are whinging about the calibre of our politicians.

Can't live their lives without Government intervention, the Government has to allow if you can do something or being looked up to for instruction 24/7, 'they shouldn't be allowed to do that!' everyone is too busy worrying about trying to control other peoples lives, whether its dash cam videos and people putting their 2 cents in, conversation on here across a broad range of topics there's always someone who can't handle free conversation without getting offended or demanding someone should do something.

This culture that's suddenly come to the surface of people dobbing on others for suspicions of breaking COVID-19 restrictions are the same kind of people who would have dobbed on other families hiding Jews in Nazi Germany in WWII - remember they were just 'following orders' too and look where that come out in the timeline of recent history.

You've sold out over a million of your own people, sent them to the unemployment line and on tax payer funded benefits that future generations are going to be footing the bill for generations.

If people had self awareness they should be ashamed of themselves for the monumental damage they've caused politically, socially and economically.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Why? Just because I don't work in what has been defined as an essential service why should I be a prisoner in my house? I walked to the shops this morning as that is allowed. And I think I need some toothpicks so I will walk to the shops again this afternoon.

This is the exact attitude that has put everyone in this situation.

Don't whinge when we go into complete lockdown because people like you can't stay the **** at home.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

He's coming for you...

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I don't fear death as it will eventually come.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

.This culture that's suddenly come to the surface of people dobbing on others for suspicions of breaking COVID-19 restrictions are the same kind of people who would have dobbed on other families hiding Jews in Nazi Germany in WWII - remember they were just 'following orders' too and look where that come out in the timeline of recent history.

Godwins law.....

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

People would do well to stop holding arrogant assumptions that I/we have not experienced loss in my/our lives.

The difference between me and the 'do-gooders' all too happy to throw others civil liberties down the toilet is that I don't hold an overinflated view of the worth of my own life or my families lives as living humans on this planet. There's 7,800,000,000 people on this planet and the FOUR of us from my family aren't special.

The cycle of life means that my parents, my sister and myself have been born on this planet on particular days and we've got a period of time until we all check out permanently.

Whether its because of old age or things outside of my/our control - it is what it is, we're all going to die some day.

Whether its a car accident, abusing my health, taking risks or just I got old and crapped out, its inevitable.

My Nonna who is 89 summed it up pretty well a couple of weeks ago over the phone - she said she has to die someday and that people should still be allowed to go about their business.

My observations about Australia and Australians in general is they cant handle others who value their freedom, which doesn't surprise me as the country was founded as a prison colony - convicts, can't live without someone else telling them what to do.

A nation of boot lickers that lacks initiative and free will, always requiring big brother to guide the way, such an apathetic group of humans who are so disengaged with politics in this country but then on the other hand are whinging about the calibre of our politicians.

Can't live their lives without Government intervention, the Government has to allow if you can do something or being looked up to for instruction 24/7, 'they shouldn't be allowed to do that!' everyone is too busy worrying about trying to control other peoples lives, whether its dash cam videos and people putting their 2 cents in, conversation on here across a broad range of topics there's always someone who can't handle free conversation without getting offended or demanding someone should do something.

This culture that's suddenly come to the surface of people dobbing on others for suspicions of breaking COVID-19 restrictions are the same kind of people who would have dobbed on other families hiding Jews in Nazi Germany in WWII - remember they were just 'following orders' too and look where that come out in the timeline of recent history.

You've sold out over a million of your own people, sent them to the unemployment line and on tax payer funded benefits that future generations are going to be footing the bill for generations.

If people had self awareness they should be ashamed of themselves for the monumental damage they've caused politically, socially and economically.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Godwins law.....

You've singled out a single paragraph and taken it out of context to quote an 'internet rule'.

That's OK, I understand you may struggle with the idea of the systematic extermination of 6 million people in the middle of a war that lead to an estimated 50-70M deaths within a 6 year period

[Citroënbender]

Moreover, I fear many would not see the irony in a proposal for building facilities to “group disinfect”.

Every day I remember the Holocaust. It is not a “commemoration” or forced remembering, not an homage to a shrine. It is simply there, in my mind. With a strong sense of betrayal; people who went into a terrible situation fearing the worst but hoping the light of basic human decency would shine - and it failed them.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Jack91

Am i the only one expecting a big movement/civil unrest if this goes on much longer?
Im not even a socially active person, and im still working, but I'm angry.
If stage 4 comes in in vic and construction stops, grab the popcorn. I never, ever, EVER thought id say this, but thank god for the cfmeu.

The only thing that would lead to widespread civil unrest here would be if they closed the grog shops if anything at all. That won't happen least of all because they collect a huge amount of tax.

[FPV8U]

Frustration with being on lockdown grows day by day, the feedback on social media has gone from very supportive of the measures by state and federal government if not impatient for the current strict conditions to doubts and confusion to the viability of the process we have found ourselves in.

The questions are how to we transition from where we are to a reduced stage of restriction where the economy is a substantial percentage more active until treatments that are currently under testing are approved, this may mean transitioning to a model isolating those more likely to be at risk rather than the larger community.

After that the next stage should be holding the WHO and the CPP accountable for their inaccurate information that has resulted in a large loss of life and a massive economic affect worldwide.

[Franco Cozzo]

Vic Police hand out more than $300,000 worth of COVID-19 fines in a single day:

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...fines-c-970697

[Citroënbender]

A very reliable sub-one minute test for contagion, would be a game changer.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Vic Police hand out more than $300,000 worth of COVID-19 fines in a single day:

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...fines-c-970697

[wodahs]

now as much as i tend to agree with some of what you say below

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

People would do well to stop holding arrogant assumptions that I/we have not experienced loss in my/our lives.

if you think i had an arrogant assumptions , it was due to me assuming you had had an arrogant assumption when i mearly pointed out younger people can die due to this

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The difference between me and the 'do-gooders' all too happy to throw others civil liberties down the toilet is that I don't hold an overinflated view of the worth of my own life or my families lives as living humans on this planet. There's 7,800,000,000 people on this planet and the FOUR of us from my family aren't special.

and i agree with this in my self
but i also can see in the community as well as in this forum some (on both sides of the fence) have acted as in a way that shows they do need guidance and unfortunately in doing so the government has put situations (right or wrong) in place , i didnt vote for them (and a lot did) but id say even the ones i did vote for would have done a similar situation as it seems the general situation world wide

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Whether its because of old age or things outside of my/our control - it is what it is, we're all going to die some day.

Whether its a car accident, abusing my health, taking risks or just I got old and crapped out, its inevitable.

and yes agree , but not everything on dying is out of an individuals control unless they are down right plank stupid

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

My observations about Australia and Australians in general is they cant handle others who value their freedom, which doesn't surprise me as the country was founded as a prison colony - convicts, can't live without someone else telling them what to do.

A nation of boot lickers that lacks initiative and free will, always requiring big brother to guide the way, such an apathetic group of humans who are so disengaged with politics in this country but then on the other hand are whinging about the calibre of our politicians.

Can't live their lives without Government intervention, the Government has to allow if you can do something or being looked up to for instruction 24/7, 'they shouldn't be allowed to do that!' everyone is too busy worrying about trying to control other peoples lives, whether its dash cam videos and people putting their 2 cents in, conversation on here across a broad range of topics there's always someone who can't handle free conversation without getting offended or demanding someone should do something.

This culture that's suddenly come to the surface of people dobbing on others for suspicions of breaking COVID-19 restrictions are the same kind of people who would have dobbed on other families hiding Jews in Nazi Germany in WWII - remember they were just 'following orders' too and look where that come out in the timeline of recent history.

this is kinda all over the place people who are boot licker gov lovers but gov hatters and free will as long as you dont put your own free will in
and as for dobbers they been doing that long before what you mentioned but hey its sounds good if its to the extent of persecution

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You've sold out over a million of your own people, sent them to the unemployment line and on tax payer funded benefits that future generations are going to be footing the bill for generations.

and as for arrogant assumptions so im front line still at work and getting nothing from the government and will have to help repay the debt but hell yes i sold every one out

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

If people had self awareness they should be ashamed of themselves for the monumental damage they've caused politically, socially and economically.

and this was why my comment "the hell with it , time you experts step up and see how you can help in this situation"

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You've singled out a single paragraph and taken it out of context to quote an 'internet rule'.

That's OK, I understand you may struggle with the idea of the systematic extermination of 6 million people in the middle of a war that lead to an estimated 50-70M deaths within a 6 year period

You’re wrong.

My fathers, mother was born in Lviv when it was still Poland (now Ukraine.)

She was a Jew.

My Grandmother was sent to Australia as a young girl by her family for safety in the late 1930's.

Few of my family made to out; Lviv has a direct train line to Auschwitz.

Your flippant reference to Jews and Nazis in this context is offensive and needs to be called out.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Why? Just because I don't work in what has been defined as an essential service why should I be a prisoner in my house? I walked to the shops this morning as that is allowed. And I think I need some toothpicks so I will walk to the shops again this afternoon.

Sorry, I was talking about people who aren’t expendable. As you were


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[nuthin' fancy]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Well look. Stay home unless you have to go out.

I go house crazy so each day I do a 1.5hr walk at 10am and another at around 3pm.

Other than shopping or travel to my second job I'm not going anywhere.

I haven't seen my elderly parents in a month and they haven't seen their grand kids. Not fair on all but would be very unfair if someone gets the other sick.

There are some that don't like being told what to do and go out of their way to stir the pot. It doesn't help anyone and can result in them or others getting sick as well as a large fine.

I don't like it as much as the next person, trust me the 'stay at home' rules mean I'm out of my main job of around $65k pa so it hurts. First time I have had to ever ask for a mortgage deferral, and handouts from the government.

But, it is a small sacrifice to make and it won't last forever.

And we are doing much better than most so it's obviously working.

Your common sense contribution has no place in this thread.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Your common sense contribution has no place in this thread.

Agreed, I'm still waiting for Chemtrails to get a mention, every other bloody silly argument has been used as bait.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

You’re wrong.

My fathers, mother was born in Lviv when it was still Poland (now Ukraine.)

She was a Jew.

My Grandmother was sent to Australia as a young girl by her family for safety in the late 1930's.

Few of my family made to out; Lviv has a direct train line to Auschwitz.

Your flippant reference to Jews and Nazis in this context is offensive and needs to be called out.

[oldel]

I don't like this kind of dumb.

I like this kind of dumb: https://www.fullmoonfeatures.com/cor...ailer-official

E: BTW you can browse all their terrible movies and take a note of the bottom right corner of the thumbnail. Ones you have to buy or subscribe to get have a little padlock, but there's always a couple that are free to watch that don't have that padlock icon. Apparently they change the free ones regularly.
https://www.fullmoonfeatures.com/browse

[Yellow_Festiva]

Lighten up everyone...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNeg_-gEXU

See if that works