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Probably best you didn't drive the XR8 too, might have become an expensive test drive!
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Hello Guys.... Ive been using Mcguires deep crystal wet look for years now, Ive used it a couple of times on my FG-XR8 i was just wondering what other brands of polish may be better as i find the wet look polish doe's not seem to last very long, I need to use a Wax/Polish rub on rub off & not a spray polish as i live in the Country where some-times we get alot of dust, i was looking at the Auto Glym Extra Gloss Protection Wax as it states to wipe on & let dry then polish off after half a hour... has any-one used this product ? im open to any suggestions for other brands of polish that give a Gloss wet look finish, Many Thanks.
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Polish and Polishing/Cutting compounds are products that correct scratches and swirls as well as providing additional gloss. A wax/sealant/ceramic coating is what locks in and boosts that shine from polishing, adding protection from a variety of contaminants and UV damage. The exception to the above is a product like Meguiars Deep Crystal Wet Look which is a cleaner wax or all-in-one. These have some minor polishing ability, but also fillers to boost shine and disguise swirls. For me, I prefer to treat polishing and wax/sealant/coating as separate tasks however I do see the appeal in the time saving an AIO can provide. I used Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection many years ago, I would recommend avoiding it owing to the difficult removal process. Newer, more modern products have left this behind. If you wanted to stay in the Meguiars family, have a look into their Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax. This wont have the "cleaning" or polish aspect to it though. https://www.meguiars.com.au/product/...ic-liquid-wax/ Have a look into CarPro Essence or Rupes Uno-protect, both all-in-one polish and sealants. https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...-essence-250ml https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...polish-sealant
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29-03-2022, 09:28 PM | #1445 | ||
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Hello a family member is bringing me around some polish tomorrow made by The Chemical Guys, he details cars in his spare time when not at work, I will just do the Bonnet to see how it performs.
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For those waiting for sales, at the moment Waxit are running their BOGO sale - Buy One, Get One -
https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...uy-one-get-one This is in addition to their current specials - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections/new-specials They also recently launched a new range of buckets, dollies and wash accessories - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections/new
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30-03-2022, 08:51 PM | #1447 | |||
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Wow that seems like a good deal. I'm not sure I'll use it that much if I end up getting my car ceramic coated. Still handy to have. |
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31-03-2022, 01:46 PM | #1448 | |||
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I'm think I'll most probably just stick to trying different products and doing a lot of manual detailing much like you are doing DFB. Anyway, I ended up buying this (thanks for drawing my attention to it DFB): https://www.waxit.com.au/products/bo...-cordless-skin I added some 4" pads because they aren't included. I also got a further 10% off with the WAXIT10 code. All in all I think that was a great buy. |
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31-03-2022, 04:05 PM | #1449 | |||
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I do have the roof, bonnet and boot ceramic coated on my daily. That's simply because I only wash it once a month and there is lots of tree sap at my work where i park now. I only coated it for that little bit of protection. For garage queens, I just enjoy the process of detailing, if they were coated it would take that enjoyment away. Also ceramic coating cars when you are OCD is insanely finicky and frustrating. On my old S3 XR8 it literally took me 8 hours to apply it because I was being so OCD with it I'll never forget that detail, 36 hours of detailing, finished at 3am, wife woke up in labour with our second child at 530am and gave birth at 9. I couldnt whinge that I had zero sleep for two days leading up to the birth
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Also, that deal from waxit for the 15" and 3" is an absolute steal. Wish that deal was around when i bought my cordless shine mate.
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As fordomatic says, that is a very good deal. I have both of those machines, they are an excellent choice for beginners and hobbyist detailers. Having both the 3 and 5 inch will mean you can machine polish just on 95% of the car, the final 5% would be the very intricate areas done by hand or a nano machine. And those compounds are top drawer too. Polishing a coating is a strange situation. A lot of the more expensive and durable coatings have a lifespan of 3 - 5 years if cared for correctly. However, unless the car is kept in a bubble and never touched, scratches and marring are always going to happen, even for the most fastidious people. Lets say you are two years into your coating and the paint has some wash induced swirls and some minor scratches. In general, you will either have to live with it or polish them out, potentially taking the coating with it. I have seen some suggestion that Sonax Perfect Finish on a yellow Rupes pad would leave Gtechniq CSL intact, but I tend to doubt that. CarPro do sell a polish for ceramic coatings - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...o-essence-plus "Essence PLUS provides a new, smarter way to repair your coatings. It contains no abrasive, and will not remove any paint or coating. Instead, Essence PLUS will maintain, and heal your coating - filling these swirls, imperfections, and scratches with a silica resin which activates the repairing process." The key thing here is that it's basically the fillers that will temporally hide imperfections, potentially buying you some extra time before having to polish/compound and re-apply the coating. I will state that I am not anti ceramic coating, just that they are not for everyone. The combination of gloss, protection, water repellency and ease of cleaning are big drawcards. But they also need a certain level of care and skill to apply as well as careful maintenance to meet the longevity claims. The good thing is ceramic coatings give detailers yet another avenue to follow in regards to paint protection. Once upon a time, you basically only had the choice of wax.
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I have also been doing some research on ceramic coatings and came to the same conclusion. They have many up sides, but they dont come without cost. They are expensive and limiting in the ways you also described. While they do provide good gloss, protection and water repellency, I think you get 80% of that with a good paint sealant. I am certainly very surprised by the results I saw using happy ending. Its so easy to apply, that it doesnt bother me if I dont get years worth of protection. I'll just apply it every second wash or so anyway. Anyway, thanks again for all the advise and info. |
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Is NV Snow in the foam gun, then hand wash followed by Happy Ending, Boss Gloss on the drying towel then a coat of P and S Bead Maker overkill. Asking for a friend.
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Skip the Boss Gloss on the drying towel (drying aid) and go straight to the Bead Maker instead.
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No reason why you couldn't alternate between the two as drying aids. Bead Maker will provide more gloss than Boss Gloss though.
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I was planning on a Waxit order a few days ago, i thought about it, added to the cart and was nearly ready to click go, but held off.
Mrs fell ill with a cold, and with the weather turning good this weekend i thought i better get to anywhere with some specials running and be ready to go for the weekend and give the i30 a full detail. Well now shes gone positive with the Spicy Cough im glad i grabbed a few things. I have stuck with Bowdens, bought their autobody gel (better for in the sun usage), a claying rubber and some more wet dreams. I was keen to try something new but im glad i grabbed some stuff as i can get right into it tomorrow with no waiting. Now i am stuck at home for 7 days i can also give the Focus some extra attention i hadn't planned on. Even though its just been waxed i am not happy at all with the bonnet and front bumper. Feels like sandpaper even after the wax. So early next week i will give that a clay bar with three way and see if that improves the situation, and re wax. Glad ive got a couple of things to do around the cars and house (provided i dont get sick).
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Did my sister's car last year - used her kid's Bowden's clay rubber. Didn't feel like it did the same job as traditional clay bar but also did not leave any fine scratches. Maybe different technique is needed when using clay rubber and so I was the issue, don't know, just did not feel as effective
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I have only ever used mild clay bars, but using a clay foam block felt quite weird in that it didn't have the feel of what I was accustomed to. I would rather not go back though. To be honest, I never really felt comfortable using a clay bar as they are awkward to use and it felt unnatural to be rubbing away at the paint with a piece of synthetic dirt. While a necessary evil every few years, I much prefer the new style of clay products.
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The Claying Rubber from bowdens can be a touch awkward in smaller areas and over creases and bends in the body work but overall i was very happy with the results. I used to use the maguires clay bar kits, they did a great job but i wouldnt go back thats for sure.
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Exactly, I am now diving into the deep end to the infinite world of Pads and Compounds.
I finally got a 18v Ryobi DA Polisher today for less than $100 as I had saved up some gift vouchers and used them up. I already have 2 x 5 a 4Amp and 3 smaller sizes so have a calculated 4 hours of run time with the batteries I have. It only has a 8mm orbit so is only suited to minor corrections and waxing I guess, but it makes sense to me being a beginner and already having the batteries for my garden tools. Unfortunately it will be weeks until I can really give it a go as I am in total disarray being in the middle of a kitchen / family room reno which has a knock on effect to my garage with storage ect. I have not cleaned the Cars for 3 weeks so are feeling slack as I can't even get to the cleaning products.
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I am only doing some amateur jobs on the old BA falcon, but found the Meguires Ultimate Compound a really good all rounder. The Mechpro came with 3 pads, and I found the hardest pad, the cutting pad, the best to use for pretty much everything. Unfortunately I'm close to wrecking that pad, so looking for a replacement. Was considering the SPTA pads on ebay, yes its cheap, but it has had some good reviews on YT. Might get a few and see how they do for my amateur tasks.
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Any good recommendations for a dressing to use in the engine bay?
I wanted to try Koch Chemie Motorplast, but its out of stock everywhere. https://www.detailstore.com.au/produ...39302017613879 The Detail Store recommended Angelwax Elixir as an replacement since they dont have an ETA on motorplast. https://www.detailstore.com.au/colle...dressing-500ml I'd like something thats not going to attract a lot of dust and will just leave a nice new OEM type look to the engine bay. |
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Thanks. I do have both of those products.
What I like about Motorplast, is how easy it is to use. Spray on and let it dry. No need to wipe of the excess etc. I think especially in an engine bay where there are so many nooks and crannies, its a big plus. |
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The only problem I found with that, is lots of overspray as my engine bays have a lot of metal and alloy. So ive found i just put perl onto my applicator and then go over the plastic/silicon bits that need it.
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