BA-FG Monoblock 4 Pot Brake Upgrade

[nosedog]

Just fitted the Shockworks front fixed brake upgrade to my FG Mk2 XR6T Ute. You can see from the picks that these have the new floating look clips even though the rotor is a fixed setup.





These brakes fitted without any hassle and the service from Brett at Shockworks was outstanding!

I recommend that you purchase the braided lines at the same time. You can use the standard lines, but they are a tight fit and will not have the length available to use the standard fixing points like the braided lines.

Excellent stopping power compared to the slotted/dimpled RDA rotors with Bendix HD pads I previously had on the car. Low to no whisking noise and zero brake squeal is one of the other benefits. Expect to find your nose on the windscreen if you hit the anchors.

Once again can't say enough about the service from Shockworks

Looking forward to seeing the rear rotors when the arrive.

Cheers,

Ben

[puck_lindsay]

Bought these a couple of months ago. Initial communication with Brett was timely and professional, brakes arrived on time. Fitted calipers with normal rotors, pads and braided lines to my G6ET with no issues. Softer, but much more linear brake feel, outstrips RDA slotted and dimpled + EBC reds by >25% (quicker stop time 100-0). Slightly increased noise on braking (whirring, assuming it's the slot pattern). Haven't been game to jam the all the way down, keeping the track pads for the next track day, looks like it'll be really easy to change the over too. No warping, less dust.

TL;DR: kit is awesome, Brett is professional, 10/10 would bang in again.

[turbotrana]

Brett, can you get non-slotted floating discs, never been a fan of slots.

Do you feel the slots are there when braking cause in the last set of slotted rotors I had you would feel them in the pedal and they seemed to chew out the pads a bit.

Have you sorted the rears yet.
Also not clear yet but do they fit under G6E rims

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by turbotrana

Brett, can you get non-slotted floating discs, never been a fan of slots.

Do you feel the slots are there when braking cause in the last set of slotted rotors I had you would feel them in the pedal and they seemed to chew out the pads a bit.

Have you sorted the rears yet.
Also not clear yet but do they fit under G6E rims

Hey,
We can make the rotors without the slots but just received a new delivery so we won't be doing it for a while mate until new orders. The team in Korea now have the rear Ford knuckle to make brake upgrade as we had issues with clearance that now can be resolved with them having the knuckle to scan and design from scratch.
Cheers
Brett

[Agent86]

Will the rear upvrade work on the utes?

[puck_lindsay]

Callipers don't fit under g6et 19s.

[turbotrana]

Originally Posted by puck_lindsay

Callipers don't fit under g6et 19s.

Thanks mate.

Brett, have you ever considered doing stock sized FG Turbo disc with alloy hat or fully floating.

For $1k I would get a floating set with no slots.

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by turbotrana

Thanks mate.

Brett, have you ever considered doing stock sized FG Turbo disc with alloy hat or fully floating.

For $1k I would get a floating set with no slots.

Hi turbotrana,
At this stage mate we will just be doing the larger upgrade as the brake issue will still be the same with the standard size rotor regardless that it has an alloy hat. For any performance driving the standard rotor size saturates to quickly:-)

Cheers
Brett

[natedog]

Just some feedback,

I've done 3 track days with the Shockworks front upgrade, these rotors are unbelievably tough. I go through a set of pads each track day but the rotors still look new.

I don't know the exact composition of the rotors, but they are awesome!

Any further word in the rear upgrade Brett?

Cheers

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by natedog

Just some feedback,

I've done 3 track days with the Shockworks front upgrade, these rotors are unbelievably tough. I go through a set of pads each track day but the rotors still look new.

I don't know the exact composition of the rotors, but they are awesome!

Any further word in the rear upgrade Brett?

Cheers

Hey Natedog,
Even we are a little surprised with the rotor life and durability.

The team in Korean have the full rear knuckle and are working on ways to clear the alloy hat bolts. This will involve a slightly larger OD disc and adapter bracket for the calipers. I will post some photos soon when ready guys:-)

Cheers
Brett

[Sam_XR6T]

Hey guys,
New to the forums.

So I've had my 2010 xr6t sedan for a year now and have just purchased the shockworks damper kit and front brake upgrade. Sadly my XR50T anniversary rims will not fit the brakes. So this means it is wheel shopping time. To be honest I don't know anything about wheels. Now I have been on 'the wheel deal' website. They have a search option to look for wheels that will fit brembos both 4pot front and 6pot fronts. TSW Nurburgring RF is the wheel I want and they say that both the 18" wheels and 19" will fit both brembo 4 & 6 pot. I would like the 18" wheels as I like the feel of driving with 18" wheels over the 19" but I don't want to risk spending 2.5k for wheels that wont fit.

The two pictures attached are the options the website gives me. Could anyone be of assistance and tell me if they sizing is right and if the 18" should fit or if the 19" is the way to go.

Thanks in advance

[Sam_XR6T]

Originally Posted by Sam_XR6T

Hey guys,
New to the forums.

So I've had my 2010 xr6t sedan for a year now and have just purchased the shockworks damper kit and front brake upgrade. Sadly my XR50T anniversary rims will not fit the brakes. So this means it is wheel shopping time. To be honest I don't know anything about wheels. Now I have been on 'the wheel deal' website. They have a search option to look for wheels that will fit brembos both 4pot front and 6pot fronts. TSW Nurburgring RF is the wheel I want and they say that both the 18" wheels and 19" will fit both brembo 4 & 6 pot. I would like the 18" wheels as I like the feel of driving with 18" wheels over the 19" but I don't want to risk spending 2.5k for wheels that wont fit.

The two pictures attached are the options the website gives me. Could anyone be of assistance and tell me if they sizing is right and if the 18" should fit or if the 19" is the way to go.

Thanks in advance

The 18" also come in 18x9 +32 offsets

[natedog]

Hi Brett,

Any further word on the rear brake kit yet?

Hope all is well in the Shokworks world :-)

Cheers,
Nathan

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by natedog

Hi Brett,

Any further word on the rear brake kit yet?

Hope all is well in the Shokworks world :-)

Cheers,
Nathan

Hey Nathan,

Yeah all done and now in the latest order so will be here in about 6 weeks to complete the brake kit.
See you soon mate:-)
Cheers
Brett

[petchyboy]

G'day Brett,

Please put me down for a rear brake kit, will call tomorrow with details.

Cheers,
Nathan

[99AUXR]

So what are the specs for the brakes front and rear and whats RRP?

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by petchyboy

G'day Brett,

Please put me down for a rear brake kit, will call tomorrow with details.

Cheers,
Nathan

Will do mate:-)

[natedog]

Hi all,

I have been rolling with the front Shockworks brake upgrade for about a year.

Have done 3 track days, been through 3 sets of pads.

Had my car in for a service last week and the rotors where measured at 30mm.

I rang Brett to see what they are brand new and he told me....30mm!!!

There has been no rotor wear!

Hard to believe given the abuse they have copped.

Just goes to show how tough they are!

Definitely recommend this brake upgrade!

[puck_lindsay]

If my maths is right the rear brake kit should be on the way. Any more details? Keen as

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by puck_lindsay

If my maths is right the rear brake kit should be on the way. Any more details? Keen as

We now have the rear brake discs in stock to suit the Territory calipers and complete the look of the car when running the front upgrade.

Cheers
Brett

[Shockworks]

Hi Guy's
We now have a template for our Ford front brake upgrade. All you have to do is to print out the template using 1 to 1 scale on A4 paper. Stick it to some thin cardboard and cut out around the edges. Then place the template against the inside face of the rim and see if the template clears the rim. Easy now to see if your rim will fit our brake upgrade which has been a problem for many customers interstate.

I hope this helps:-)

Cheers
Brett

[FormulaFG]

What a clever idea

[Shockworks]

Hi Guy's,
As this is the first time we have made a brake template, I found a problem with the first design of template. I did not take the most outer point of the caliper, so the template will show the brakes fit when they are actually a little bigger.
Attached is the new template which does match the most outer part so is now the right size.
There is a JPEG to show the difference.
Sorry for the first drawing that was incorrect.

Cheers
Brett

[puck_lindsay]

Rear rotors take a hiding, have done a track day and some drags runs, no signs of warping yet.

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by puck_lindsay

Rear rotors take a hiding, have done a track day and some drags runs, no signs of warping yet.

Hey Lindsay,
I would be shocked if they did warp as we have tied to kill them on track with not a bit of run out front or rear.
The radial vane design is great for dissipating the heat and we found the handbrake still works when hot, unlike the factory rear discs haha.
Cheers and thanks for the feedback mate:-)
Brett

[MattSAU2XR8]

Hi Brett,

Just got to thinking, since these brakes require new wheels for most customers, is there any chance you could do a kit that uses the big discs but a conventional two piston caliper? There would probably be a bit of a market since lots of people don't want to replace their wheels and the main problem is often fade or warping rather than inadequate braking power in usual situations. Using an FG turbo with 320 mm rotors, so 280 mm working diameter, going up to 355 would still give about more than 10 % extra torque at working diameter of 315 mm, fill up the wheels nicely, and never overheat.... Only difficult part would seem to be sourcing a caliper that is available locally (ideally) that will fit over a 32 mm disc, given PBR C6's are hard to come by, but if one could be found quite a few people might be interested, me included. UPC in Bayswater seem to use a modified VE Commodore Caliper on a 32 mm disc, not sure what they to do achieve this, but at any rate not offering it for VE V8s of Hipo Fords...

Regards,

Matt

Regards,

Matt

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by MattSAU2XR8

Hi Brett,

Just got to thinking, since these brakes require new wheels for most customers, is there any chance you could do a kit that uses the big discs but a conventional two piston caliper? There would probably be a bit of a market since lots of people don't want to replace their wheels and the main problem is often fade or warping rather than inadequate braking power in usual situations. Using an FG turbo with 320 mm rotors, so 280 mm working diameter, going up to 355 would still give about more than 10 % extra torque at working diameter of 315 mm, fill up the wheels nicely, and never overheat.... Only difficult part would seem to be sourcing a caliper that is available locally (ideally) that will fit over a 32 mm disc, given PBR C6's are hard to come by, but if one could be found quite a few people might be interested, me included. UPC in Bayswater seem to use a modified VE Commodore Caliper on a 32 mm disc, not sure what they to do achieve this, but at any rate not offering it for VE V8s of Hipo Fords...

Regards,

Matt

Regards,

Matt

Hi Matt,
We should look at this. I will see if we can make a extended dog bone for the factory caliper and use to use a larger disc for the front. We make a 30mm disc so will do some checking to see what we can do to retain the factory slider.

Cheers
Brett

[MattSAU2XR8]

I've actually been looking at doing this myself - I think its likely a Chrysler 300c front disc would work OK with an FG 298 mm front caliper bracket and a dogbone about 15 mm thick:
- Bolt circle is slightly larger at 115 mm (1/2 mm diff) but can't see this being a problem, certainly that a very gentle filing couldn't fix
- Caliper could move out by about 25 mm to allow clearance at edge of caliper since designed for smaller diameter curve
- Might need to shave about 1.5 mm from middle of outside radius of pad since slightly different curve, as per above
- Probably easiest to run allen bolts back through the dog bone and the strut so no threaded holes in dogbone, I think this should clear the disc OK
- Would need a hub centric shim for the disc, about 1 mm, available anyway an google, or use some exhaust tubing
- Line would need to be about 4 cm longer for best fit

That said, still have the problem of large diameter disc being pretty thin. Perfect situation I think would be a 32 mm disc anywhere between 340 mm (Territory) and 355 mm (FPV). Only hiccup is finding a suitable caliper. I guess the other option might be a 30 mm thick disc which would still be an improvement on 28 mm....

If you have a 30 mm disc already available then for Australian market I think a VE caliper might be best since readily available??

BTW, if I decided to try the Chrysler disc idea, is there any chance you could arrange to supply some brackets if I sent you a drawing??

Regards,

Matt

[MattSAU2XR8]

Hi Brett, if you have a 30 mm disc available I'd suggest a VE caliper might be the easiest solution since already 30 mm and bits readily available, assuming piston size similar to Ford.

If using the standard caliper I've already been thinking about a Chrysler 300c front disc at 345 by 28 mm, although even if its a DBA 4000 quality disc I can't help wondering if it might warp with time - fairly thin for the diameter?? However have been considering knocking up a kit myself to see if it works. If I did is there any chance you can put be onto someone who could make the dogbones from a drawing (should be a simple rectangular bolt pattern...)

Regards,

Matt

[Shockworks]

Originally Posted by MattSAU2XR8

Hi Brett, if you have a 30 mm disc available I'd suggest a VE caliper might be the easiest solution since already 30 mm and bits readily available, assuming piston size similar to Ford.

If using the standard caliper I've already been thinking about a Chrysler 300c front disc at 345 by 28 mm, although even if its a DBA 4000 quality disc I can't help wondering if it might warp with time - fairly thin for the diameter?? However have been considering knocking up a kit myself to see if it works. If I did is there any chance you can put be onto someone who could make the dogbones from a drawing (should be a simple rectangular bolt pattern...)

Regards,

Matt

At our manufacturing plant, we can make anything so would end up making the disc and dog bone in house. At the moment we are in the middle of other brake development and improvements for the Ford and other cars. I have asked my drawing team to have a look what can be done with the Ford caliper with larger rotor with dogbone for the OE floating assembly but this is more on the side at the moment due to current programs. The guys are under the pump so have to go gentle on the them haha.
Cheers
Brett